Eurotic TV - General Discussion

Many actual conversations on sex phones are not dirty.
Some people just call to talk because they are lonely. Still - it is called sex phone, because you pay to talk. The topic is up to you, because it's your money that pays for the conversation.

The reason I'm mocking Dreamlander and Wilsonsand is that I hate hypocrisy. The point they seem to be missing is that a girl they're talking to is featured naked on television all around the world.
Let it be clear: I respect all women, including ETV models. I find nothing wrong in what they do for money. In fact I really admire them because it's not an easy job to do.

But I despise hypocrite males who claim that they watch nighttime TV feed with bunch of naked girls for some other reason than sexual excitement. And the fact that they're judging other people for having certain wishes. I find oiling of breasts or watering see-through blouses stupid and disgusting but I don't write petitions to stop them. That's all.

Mad_Dog wrote:Dreamlander - I cound not agree more. I was so stupid to call ETV a sex phone.
Of course it's not: sex phone is a service that some losers use to talk to women for money because for some reason they can’t do that in real life.

ETV is quite different thing. It is a kind of Elite Social Club where we, respected gentlemen, have the unique chance to encounter those amazing and sophisticated women from Eastern Europe. We can talk to them, get to know them well, see their naked butts admire their beauty and femininity.
Our conversations are private, our relationships with them are strong and real they laugh at us behind our backs wait for our calls and respect us all.

So let us keep this unique social experience free from vulgarity, obscenity, violence and fetishes. Because ETV has nothing to do with sex, sexual excitement, teasing men and women being sexy.

And let us all post on this forum under nicknames including the word “dream” because we don’t have any problem with telling the difference between fantasy and reality...

You can treat the models as phone sex girls and probably you will get in return exactly what you described some posts ago........lies, fakes and nothing real.
Or you can see the models also as normal girls with a normal life and you will mabye get back what dreamlander tried to describe.

So in the end it depends on the caller itself.....

Dreamlander - I cound not agree more. I was so stupid to call ETV a sex phone.
Of course it's not: sex phone is a service that some losers use to talk to women for money because for some reason they can’t do that in real life.

ETV is quite different thing. It is a kind of Elite Social Club where we, respected gentlemen, have the unique chance to encounter those amazing and sophisticated women from Eastern Europe. We can talk to them, get to know them well, see their naked butts admire their beauty and femininity.
Our conversations are private, our relationships with them are strong and real they laugh at us behind our backs wait for our calls and respect us all.

So let us keep this unique social experience free from vulgarity, obscenity, violence and fetishes. Because ETV has nothing to do with sex, sexual excitement, teasing men and women being sexy.

And let us all post on this forum under nicknames including the word “dream” because we don’t have any problem with telling the difference between fantasy and reality...

Mad_Dog wrote:Wow, you can’t be that naïve, can you?
Are you trying to say that you are a (presumably) grown-up person who doesn’t understand how the service, which is basically erotic sexphone, works? You really think that it is for “real”, that the girls you call are your “friends” and they share their “thoughts” with you?
Well then I have a few questions for you:
1. Since the girls you mention were so close to you, why did you have to pay to talk to them?
2. Did any of them give you any real personal data (name, phone, etc)?
3. You really don’t know how a sexline works?: if you’re dominant, the girl will say she’s been very bad and needs some spanking, if you’re a sub, she’ll say that she’s dressed in leather and the sound you hear is the cracking of her whip and if you’re a Knight in Shining Armor, she’s been mistreated and needs some comforting? Or do you still believe it’s all true?
4. You don’t realize that ALL THE CALLS are monitored and recorded because the models (which are employees) are constantly evaluated whether they fit for the job or not? And you still believe that any whistle-blowing is possible?
5. You don’t realize that other people in the studio can hear what a model says into her headset and these conversations were not that “private” as you thought?

Not that your accusatory, off topic diatribe deserves any answers but, I hardly post/visit here any more so I'll indulge you just this once.

1. I had to pay to talk to them at ETV because it's their job. I didn't have to pay the many times I Skyped them for free or messaged them on social media both during and after they left the channel.
2. Yes, see answer above.
3. At no time whatsoever did I use the service for 'sex chat'. It was just for a laugh, for a little escapism, experiencing a side of life that was very different to mine.
4. All calls are recorded but not all are monitored, they just don't have the staff, the time or the inclination to listen 100% of the time. They tend to focus on the abusive or volatile callers, of which I was neither. It was very apparent when someone in the studio was listening in live as there is a faint echo on the line in your headset. I knew that, the model knew that.
5. Big studio, lots of conversations going on at the same time and the model does have the ability to whisper.

Now, I don't see how any of this relates to a like or dislike of bondage fetishes, which is primarily what my post concerned. I posted about how the four girls I regularly spoke to felt about such shows and how 'management' used them for their own cheap thrills. These girls were young and beautiful and very good at what they did but they were, at least the ones I spoke to, very 'normal' away from ETV. Three were students studying for degrees and one was a mother of two. There is a place for bondage, as I stated when done properly with fully consenting adults but the way ETV does it and has done for years leaves a lot to be desired.

Dreamlander

Wilsonsand wrote:from the wall/lounge:

"Malcolm: FETISH NIGHTS | I would love to see a themed night with fetish acts, I would like to see the girls in bondage snd whilst tied up either spanked or tickled, would a dedicated show be possible Malcolm
ETV Team: Our newest model has exactly that kind of BDSM interests and some experience. You will see her for the first time in a few days. Very soon we will produce special shows on that theme. It will be internet show for sure"

Perfect. Now ETV will return to bondage, and sadomasochism shows. Not for me. Shows based on humiliation and pain are for sure not for me, I feel a deep rejection, even disgust about it. Bravo ETV, bravo.

Wow what a discussion What did you expect from etv? Someone how dont know etv, could guess etv would plan an hardcore bdsm show
In the last year etv was great in advertising (how often we must read in the forum, the show had potential) and than we got only hot air. For this fetish show I expect the same. etv is miles away from what is aloud with the laws for tv/satellite and lightyears away for internet. So this fetish shows will have the same level what we see since the last year with spanking, ice, water, oil and chain with panty or bh. Or expect someone that etv will try to reach the boarder of the law with this show I dont do this. The show would be different from the normal nightshow, but not any bit hotter or harder then the usual shows

Dreamlander wrote:

Wilsonsand wrote:Mad_Dog, if you like that shows good for you.

My experiences in the real life with the girls are quite different, and i´ve never found anything erotic, exciting at all in that shows. I find them disgusting.It´s my point of view. And i will say more, they can be even more disgusting with Lace or Angelina involved. You can think whatever you want, i respect it, but my point of view is that kind of shows are disgusting. It seems you will celebrate a lot that shows, good for you, but for sure that´s not for me. Please respect it without making absurd assumptions about my knowledge of women. It´s evident we have different tastes and that´s all.

I agree about your opinion of these shows in relation to ETV for sure. I appreciate, in real life, there are many who consent and enjoy these types of shows and fetishes. My experience too though, with several girls at ETV, 4 of whom I had regular and extensive conversations with, was that they hated, despised and, at times, feared their inclusion in them. The main protagonists, as you mentioned, are/were Angelina and Lace. They took infinite pleasure and delight from controlling the newer, more junior girls in these shows on more times than I care to remember. Full consent and acceptance should always be sought for ALL participants but that frequently and regularly doesn't happen at ETV. Because of the status of the instigators and the desire to conform, stay in the 'good books' or just make a decent living from the wages at ETV of the other girls, the sensible, reasonable course of action is rarely taken.
Watching any of my 4 favourites, who thankfully are no longer at ETV, during these shows was horrible. My conversations with them afterwards just confirmed my thoughts as they opened their hearts about how bad it was.
So, yes, there is a place for this fetish, but the way certain senior employees at ETV use them as a self-gratifying cheap thrills means they are often maligned by most long term viewers like us on this forum.

Dreamlander

Wow, you can’t be that naïve, can you?
Are you trying to say that you are a (presumably) grown-up person who doesn’t understand how the service, which is basically erotic sexphone, works? You really think that it is for “real”, that the girls you call are your “friends” and they share their “thoughts” with you?
Well then I have a few questions for you:
1. Since the girls you mention were so close to you, why did you have to pay to talk to them?
2. Did any of them give you any real personal data (name, phone, etc)?
3. You really don’t know how a sexline works?: if you’re dominant, the girl will say she’s been very bad and needs some spanking, if you’re a sub, she’ll say that she’s dressed in leather and the sound you hear is the cracking of her whip and if you’re a Knight in Shining Armor, she’s been mistreated and needs some comforting? Or do you still believe it’s all true?
4. You don’t realize that ALL THE CALLS are monitored and recorded because the models (which are employees) are constantly evaluated whether they fit for the job or not? And you still believe that any whistle-blowing is possible?
5. You don’t realize that other people in the studio can hear what a model says into her headset and these conversations were not that “private” as you thought?

If you have more such absurd and amusing stories, please share them.

kennyboy2012 wrote:Actually, I read what Wilsonsand posts and personally I have sometimes agreed and sometime disagreed but he usually makes good points and is usually spot on with his comments, and on this occasion, I fully agree with him.
I would suggest that a larger number don't care for your thoughts.

So, what you are saying is that you are spending your life reading posts of a guy who spends his life watching amateur erotic show and is sharing his "deep thoughts" on that, and you’re impressed. Let me quote: “Good for you!”

It’s obvious that discussing with you makes no sense since you’re not capable of understanding your own posts.

Wilsonsand wrote:Shows based on humiliation and pain are for sure not for me

When exactly did you encounter any shows involving “humiliation and pain” on ETV? Any examples, screens, clips?

Wilsonsand wrote:Mad_Dog, if you like that shows good for you.

My experiences in the real life with the girls are quite different, and i´ve never found anything erotic, exciting at all in that shows. I find them disgusting.It´s my point of view. And i will say more, they can be even more disgusting with Lace or Angelina involved. You can think whatever you want, i respect it, but my point of view is that kind of shows are disgusting. It seems you will celebrate a lot that shows, good for you, but for sure that´s not for me. Please respect it without making absurd assumptions about my knowledge of women. It´s evident we have different tastes and that´s all.

I agree about your opinion of these shows in relation to ETV for sure. I appreciate, in real life, there are many who consent and enjoy these types of shows and fetishes. My experience too though, with several girls at ETV, 4 of whom I had regular and extensive conversations with, was that they hated, despised and, at times, feared their inclusion in them. The main protagonists, as you mentioned, are/were Angelina and Lace. They took infinite pleasure and delight from controlling the newer, more junior girls in these shows on more times than I care to remember. Full consent and acceptance should always be sought for ALL participants but that frequently and regularly doesn't happen at ETV. Because of the status of the instigators and the desire to conform, stay in the 'good books' or just make a decent living from the wages at ETV of the other girls, the sensible, reasonable course of action is rarely taken.
Watching any of my 4 favourites, who thankfully are no longer at ETV, during these shows was horrible. My conversations with them afterwards just confirmed my thoughts as they opened their hearts about how bad it was.
So, yes, there is a place for this fetish, but the way certain senior employees at ETV use them as a self-gratifying cheap thrills means they are often maligned by most long term viewers like us on this forum.

Dreamlander

Mad_Dog, if you like that shows good for you.

My experiences in the real life with the girls are quite different, and i´ve never found anything erotic, exciting at all in that shows. I find them disgusting.It´s my point of view. And i will say more, they can be even more disgusting with Lace or Angelina involved. You can think whatever you want, i respect it, but my point of view is that kind of shows are disgusting. It seems you will celebrate a lot that shows, good for you, but for sure that´s not for me. Please respect it without making absurd assumptions about my knowledge of women. It´s evident we have different tastes and that´s all.

Mad_Dog wrote:

Wilsonsand wrote:Perfect. Now ETV will return to bondage, and sadomasochism shows. Not for me. Shows based on humiliation and pain are for sure not for me, I feel a deep rejection, even disgust about it. Bravo ETV, bravo.

Everytime the topic of bondage comes up there must be someone who opposes it in a manner of making a presumption that he is so much of a gentlemen and he is so sophisticated that he is against that kind of shows on ETV because of “violence against women” and “sadomasochism”.

Clearly your knowledge of women is restricted to watching them on computer…

For your information:
1. No one really cares what you think of it.
2. Many other viewers find most of fetish shows stupid (balloons, oil, costumes etc) but don’t brag about it on the forum
3. If a person pays for a certain show, he is allow to watch it and enjoy it.
4. Very few models refuse to do it (for example Karry, but she had no problem with tying other girls up)
5. Many models refer to it as a “favorite wish” and are quite enthusiastic about. In fact, although it is my fetish, Tia’s lectures, given in her fake oxford accent, on how much she enjoys being publicly bound are quite annoying.
6. In real life all my female partners wanted to be tied up in bed, each of them for a different reason, but none of them was really masochistic and was no violence involved whatsoever. In fact the only "humiliation factor" was that all of them had stronger orgasms while being even lightly tied, which they found confusing, beacuse apparantly women are comfortable with being "perverted".
7. Bondage has very little to do BDSM.

Actually, I read what Wilsonsand posts and personally I have sometimes agreed and sometime disagreed but he usually makes good points and is usually spot on with his comments, and on this occasion, I fully agree with him.
I would suggest that a larger number don't care for your thoughts.

Wilsonsand wrote:Perfect. Now ETV will return to bondage, and sadomasochism shows. Not for me. Shows based on humiliation and pain are for sure not for me, I feel a deep rejection, even disgust about it. Bravo ETV, bravo.

Everytime the topic of bondage comes up there must be someone who opposes it in a manner of making a presumption that he is so much of a gentlemen and he is so sophisticated that he is against that kind of shows on ETV because of “violence against women” and “sadomasochism”.

Clearly your knowledge of women is restricted to watching them on computer…

For your information:
1. No one really cares what you think of it.
2. Many other viewers find most of fetish shows stupid (balloons, oil, costumes etc) but don’t brag about it on the forum
3. If a person pays for a certain show, he is allow to watch it and enjoy it.
4. Very few models refuse to do it (for example Karry, but she had no problem with tying other girls up)
5. Many models refer to it as a “favorite wish” and are quite enthusiastic about. In fact, although it is my fetish, Tia’s lectures, given in her fake oxford accent, on how much she enjoys being publicly bound are quite annoying.
6. In real life all my female partners wanted to be tied up in bed, each of them for a different reason, but none of them was really masochistic and was no violence involved whatsoever. In fact the only "humiliation factor" was that all of them had stronger orgasms while being even lightly tied, which they found confusing, beacuse apparantly women are comfortable with being "perverted".
7. Bondage has very little to do BDSM.

ivantoyota wrote:

Scottishbloke wrote:

Wilsonsand wrote:from the wall/lounge:

"Malcolm: FETISH NIGHTS | I would love to see a themed night with fetish acts, I would like to see the girls in bondage snd whilst tied up either spanked or tickled, would a dedicated show be possible Malcolm
ETV Team: Our newest model has exactly that kind of BDSM interests and some experience. You will see her for the first time in a few days. Very soon we will produce special shows on that theme. It will be internet show for sure"

Perfect. Now ETV will return to bondage, and sadomasochism shows. Not for me. Shows based on humiliation and pain are for sure not for me, I feel a deep rejection, even disgust about it. Bravo ETV, bravo.

To be honest with you, that sounds a lot more interesting than the predictable shows at the moment, I hope Angelina is featured in those shows as some of her best sessions came from these themes

ETV can't do sensuality so fuck it, bring on the whips and chains Lol

And all of that with no pussy shown on camera. Etv is booring and not erotic anymore. This censoring without reason is ridicolus.

What I dont understand iff you think itts boring why do you watch??
Every time I reed the post there is so much negative comments than I think stop watching.
For me its easy when I switch to the channel and i watch 5 minutes and i see its the same boring things I switch off.
I know itt will never be the same anymore with this girls.
OK I may not compare but when I see those girls and I compare them with te girls from 3 or 4 years ago , i say 3 or 4 years because for me after that time the shows become worse now these days you can not call itt a eurotic show but a show with girls who only took there clothes off ..
For me the reason is that ETV dont want to spend to much money at the girls and iff you dont want than you get this kind off shows and the girls who stay there
are not capable to give a good eurotic show they are realy not good enough with no exeption.
In my country that call it,,For a dime sitting on the front row,, They want everything for nothing.
And thas the reason I want to say to you stop complaning or stop watching
I am sorry with all respect Its nothing realy nothing.


Regards
Askar

Scottishbloke wrote:

Wilsonsand wrote:from the wall/lounge:

"Malcolm: FETISH NIGHTS | I would love to see a themed night with fetish acts, I would like to see the girls in bondage snd whilst tied up either spanked or tickled, would a dedicated show be possible Malcolm
ETV Team: Our newest model has exactly that kind of BDSM interests and some experience. You will see her for the first time in a few days. Very soon we will produce special shows on that theme. It will be internet show for sure"

Perfect. Now ETV will return to bondage, and sadomasochism shows. Not for me. Shows based on humiliation and pain are for sure not for me, I feel a deep rejection, even disgust about it. Bravo ETV, bravo.

To be honest with you, that sounds a lot more interesting than the predictable shows at the moment, I hope Angelina is featured in those shows as some of her best sessions came from these themes

ETV can't do sensuality so fuck it, bring on the whips and chains Lol

And all of that with no pussy shown on camera. Etv is booring and not erotic anymore. This censoring without reason is ridicolus.

Wilsonsand wrote:from the wall/lounge:

"Malcolm: FETISH NIGHTS | I would love to see a themed night with fetish acts, I would like to see the girls in bondage snd whilst tied up either spanked or tickled, would a dedicated show be possible Malcolm
ETV Team: Our newest model has exactly that kind of BDSM interests and some experience. You will see her for the first time in a few days. Very soon we will produce special shows on that theme. It will be internet show for sure"

Perfect. Now ETV will return to bondage, and sadomasochism shows. Not for me. Shows based on humiliation and pain are for sure not for me, I feel a deep rejection, even disgust about it. Bravo ETV, bravo.

To be honest with you, that sounds a lot more interesting than the predictable shows at the moment, I hope Angelina is featured in those shows as some of her best sessions came from these themes

ETV can't do sensuality so fuck it, bring on the whips and chains Lol

connell wrote:

Wilsonsand wrote:from the wall/lounge:

"Malcolm: FETISH NIGHTS | I would love to see a themed night with fetish acts, I would like to see the girls in bondage snd whilst tied up either spanked or tickled, would a dedicated show be possible Malcolm
ETV Team: Our newest model has exactly that kind of BDSM interests and some experience. You will see her for the first time in a few days. Very soon we will produce special shows on that theme. It will be internet show for sure"

Perfect. Now ETV will return to bondage, and sadomasochism shows. Not for me. Shows based on humiliation and pain are for sure not for me, I feel a deep rejection, even disgust about it. Bravo ETV, bravo.

Is there really someone want to see Bondage or BDSM shows in the soft amateur version of ETV? Crazy

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if the dog is a model (LINDA) dressed as puppy dog with a mistress(TIA) sitting on top of her back and whipping her ass and rub her royal pussy on ponygirl's back.. YEEESSSSS WAAAANT IT!!!
then i wake up as always, it was only a free dream..