New Hot shows in 2013?!!..

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01.12.2012, 20:23

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Must be offerings such as former and non-Adhar models that do not show anything of her body must be heated and interesting offerings I love this channel very, very

01.12.2012, 19:28

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Bravocbr wrote:Only if Gia,Scarlet and Amy come back again !!??Big Grin
But i think this a dream!!Sad
...or also if censorship disappearTongue

01.12.2012, 19:26

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Only if Gia,Scarlet and Amy come back again !!??Big Grin
But i think this a dream!!Sad

01.12.2012, 18:45

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piggy wrote:dear Santa.....

for the next good year i wish some good changments...

no Brona, no Evah, No soft models at all...

also i wish some new girls coming
and some retirement of ''all fame'' glory like Lilian and Nikita.

ok may be i am dreaming too much... but... why not to start also a free parallel show in internet
with very less censorship than tv ?

Tongue

Confused

I agree with the two mentioned models, but I also blame etv for not letting the models be soft and sexy. Someone must take a hold of the channel and throw all the clothes, along with the directors. Get some skirts, blouses and dresses in the wardrobe dept and by that I mean get the girls looking like girls or women and not looking like men in pants, leggings and enough clothes to keep a polar Bear warm.
And a cameraman who knows where the bottom half of a women is !

And ..Throw out the old year and bring in the new

01.12.2012, 17:32

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piggy wrote:dear Santa.....

for the next good year i wish some good changments...

no Brona, no Evah, No soft models at all...

also i wish some new girls coming
and some retirement of ''all fame'' glory like Lilian and Nikita.

ok may be i am dreaming too much... but... why not to start also a free parallel show in internet
with very less censorship than tv ?

Tongue

Confused

Even Santa Claus does not meet your wishes

01.12.2012, 17:25

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dear Santa.....

for the next good year i wish some good changments...

no Brona, no Evah, No soft models at all...

also i wish some new girls coming
and some retirement of ''all fame'' glory like Lilian and Nikita.

ok may be i am dreaming too much... but... why not to start also a free parallel show in internet
with very less censorship than tv ?

Tongue

Confused

01.12.2012, 13:28

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Joker1305 wrote:I don't have numbers so actually I don't know if they really have financial problems, but the items you mention for me show what's their target: A few fans of certain girls willing to pay a lot of money.
But this is a small base. Presumed currently there are much more viewers than customers, the trick were to get a few bucks from many of the until now not paying viewers.
The premium shows are a first step in this direction, but I think they could offer much more and show this also for non customers.
E.g. calendars, high quality photos and videos are occasionally offered to logged in ETV customers, but people who are not logged in don't often get to know about.
Amazon hardly were the most successful online shop on the world today if the customers had to pay 60Euro on their customer account before he can see what they can buy.
Of course ETV's business is too special to be successful like Amazon, but possibly it could enhance their customer base.

Regards
Joker

When I talked about that strategy backfiring, I wasn't specifically referring to financial problems in general, although I guess that from a certain point of view it could lead to that anyway.
However, I don't think this is their strategy, as for how I see things, they're clearly trying to squeeze as much money as possible from their "rich" customers; like somebody used to say here, 3 people that spend 1.000 are better than 25 people who spend 100.

Of course, if something happens to one of those 3 people, the consequences are different than if something were to happen to one of the 25. But realizing this would require foresight which is a scarce commodity in Molvania.

01.12.2012, 11:12

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Chris26 wrote:...
ETV is trying to capitalize on that need (which in some cases turns to obsession) in every way they can: presents to the models, possibility of sending them personal messages on their cellphones, billions of initiatives to show appreciation for the model (like the shortlived "Send a rose to your model!") and long, pompous posts on their Wall underlying how the girls are extremely happy and content to have received such gifts and they heartfeltly thank their beloved viewers.
The problem is that this strategy is beginning to backfire on them a little bit...
I don't have numbers so actually I don't know if they really have financial problems, but the items you mention for me show what's their target: A few fans of certain girls willing to pay a lot of money.
But this is a small base. Presumed currently there are much more viewers than customers, the trick were to get a few bucks from many of the until now not paying viewers.
The premium shows are a first step in this direction, but I think they could offer much more and show this also for non customers.
E.g. calendars, high quality photos and videos are occasionally offered to logged in ETV customers, but people who are not logged in don't often get to know about.
Amazon hardly were the most successful online shop on the world today if the customers had to pay 60Euro on their customer account before he can see what they can buy.
Of course ETV's business is too special to be successful like Amazon, but possibly it could enhance their customer base.

Regards
Joker

01.12.2012, 04:50

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HvB wrote:Feel free to write to the New York times, but that would only add a few 10000 more to the people having heard of etv, so still 5.something billion wouldn't know about etv at all and still I would like to know why it would be better for them if etv would close as they are the vast majority in your 'everyone'.

Geez, I seriously hope the New York Times has more than 10.000 readers!
And my given reason was sarcarstic but I do realize many people fail to get it.

We could tell the local newspapers, but on these grounds I believe you're much more rooted than me.

Gliding back on-topic, the problems at ETV right now are twofold: management and management.
First of all, the apparent censorship issue on TV is just a stalking horse (not going to explain this expression, look it up if you don't know it).
Without the need to analyze rules and regulations (for which, anyway, I thank Vappiano who has been the only one willing to fully understand this matter, unlike somebody else who talked just for his own interests), if ETV can show a pussy on free-to-air television, they can construct basically everything they have been lately doing in the premium shows (with the possible exception of Timi's exclusive shows these days). All the rest is just hot talk.

Second of all: ETV has strayed from being an erotic channel for all kinds of men (lonely, single, married, young, old) who want to see (more or less) beautiful naked women to being a sort-of sexy channel for mostly old and lonely men who want to feel loved and appreciated by (more or less) beautiful, not-necessarily-naked women.
ETV is trying to capitalize on that need (which in some cases turns to obsession) in every way they can: presents to the models, possibility of sending them personal messages on their cellphones, billions of initiatives to show appreciation for the model (like the shortlived "Send a rose to your model!") and long, pompous posts on their Wall underlying how the girls are extremely happy and content to have received such gifts and they heartfeltly thank their beloved viewers.
The problem is that this strategy is beginning to backfire on them a little bit.

By the way, I am just pointing these two things out, I am not posting them as criticism, nor as advice, as I am just acknowledging the situation and am no longer interested in provoking changes in the channel.

30.11.2012, 20:02

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Angelika wrote:...
right the problems of etv are: Aida, Alice, Aliyah, Angelina, Anna, Annabelle, Aria, Ashley, Brona, Claudia, Eliza, Elmar, Joanna, Kally, Karry, Kia, Kiara, Lilian, Mia, Michelle, Nikita, Olive, Olivia, Rose, Sandra, Sugar, Sunny, Suzy, Tia, Tiffani, Timi
I doubt with only April, Ava, Evah, Isabella, Jade, Jessica, Kristina, Mashiara, Nancy, Natasha, Penelope, Roshanna, and Spirit left ETV were better.
That's hardly enough for 2 night show casts.
OK, if you are really a (at best young and beautiful-) woman maybe you could support Big Grin

Regards
Joker

30.11.2012, 17:00

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Chris26 wrote:Talk about misanthropy!

It's my 2nd name since I know ETV. Big Grin Cool

30.11.2012, 16:25

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Chris26 wrote:
HvB wrote:
rotate13 wrote:it would be better for everyone if etv closes down.

please explain why it is better for the roughly 5.something billion people who never have heard about it

Such cruelty! Would you really want these 5 billion people to undergo ETV's incompetence in so many fields, e.g. customer care and camera handling?
Talk about misanthropy!

I guess we could arrange that; would you care to be the first one sending a letter to the New York Times or shall I do the honours?

Feel free to write to the New York times, but that would only add a few 10000 more to the people having heard of etv, so still 5.something billion wouldn't know about etv at all and still I would like to know why it would be better for them if etv would close as they are the vast majority in your 'everyone'.

30.11.2012, 15:24

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HvB wrote:
rotate13 wrote:it would be better for everyone if etv closes down.

please explain why it is better for the roughly 5.something billion people who never have heard about it

Such cruelty! Would you really want these 5 billion people to undergo ETV's incompetence in so many fields, e.g. customer care and camera handling?
Talk about misanthropy!

I guess we could arrange that; would you care to be the first one sending a letter to the New York Times or shall I do the honours?

30.11.2012, 13:39

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rotate13 wrote:the battle was lost since they've refurbished the studio. there is no hope anymore with the current roster. these models are anything but not hot.
it would be better for everyone if etv closes down.

Hello you.
Why closed????. Solutions ago I think, but .......
dafr911.

30.11.2012, 13:07

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rotate13 wrote:the battle was lost since they've refurbished the studio. there is no hope anymore with the current roster. these models are anything but not hot.
it would be better for everyone if etv closes down.

right the problems of etv are: Aida, Alice, Aliyah, Angelina, Anna, Annabelle, Aria, Ashley, Brona, Claudia, Eliza, Elmar, Joanna, Kally, Karry, Kia, Kiara, Lilian, Mia, Michelle, Nikita, Olive, Olivia, Rose, Sandra, Sugar, Sunny, Suzy, Tia, Tiffani, Timi
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