number of models crisis - again

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05.04.2008, 12:03

number of models crisis - again

Under the present programming ETV needs to fill about 230 slots per week.  If the girls do an average of five shifts, that's about 46 girls needed.  Several girls only work once, twice or three times a week, so to cover the shows and have a bit of room for manoeuvre, they need about 55 models on the books.

So ETV worked out, reasonably enough, that to replace recent departures and planned ones coming up, they needed to bring in a batch up to 20 new girls from the beginning of March.  So far, so good. 

They probably did not take into account that they would lose Donna and Amber unplanned.  They  probably also didn't plan for 5-7 of the 11 new girls brought in so far lasting about a week and leaving again (Kate, Lesley, Krissi, Tina, Catrin.  Eva has appeared once and Tera has also disappeared at the moment).

We all remember a year ago when lots of models left suddenly and ETV was faced with a similar crisis.  This led to two things:

  • the old hands having to do double shifts to save the sinking ship (Jaya memorably did 15 consecutive hours one day) with the inevitable reduction in quality.  You know the film "They shoot horses, don't they?"
  • the introduction of Kaleya's non-erotic barbie silly game shows

Of course there have always been double shifts - last minute arrangements to cover for ill or otherwise absent models.  Viviana and Gia were required to cover for the withdrawn Carolina and Aliyah yesterday for example. 

However, this week only 39 girls have been available and, for the first time that I remember, ETV have had to write double shifts into the advance schedule in a big way.  Today, Madlen, Tiffany, Viviana and Amanda are all scheduled to work 10 hours.  Tomorrow Madlen, Ultraviolet, Hera and Emanuela are scheduled to do the same.  This is not sustainable in anything but the short term.

ETV is again clearly having difficulty recruiting new girls and keeping the ones it has.  Presumably with 6 of the 11 new girls gone again, they still need to find another 15 or so, and there are some more high profile planned departures coming up in the near future.

So what do they do?

One thing they must not do is to upset the girls again by making them work double shifts; this leads to exhaustion and irritability (viz Sesil on Thursday), disenchantment, and they will inevitably leave.

You may have practical suggestions as to how to avoid ETV going down the toilet - very few of us want that to happen - but if I were ETV, I would start by ditching E2.  It is financially neutral at best, it has few callers for three girls, it has no direction or concept, and, most importantly, the girls are bored stiff and many of them hate it with a passion. 

The removal  of E2 would mean that they would need about 10 fewer girls and they would not need to have the non-erotic soft shows which have found their way back on to this channel.  They would also save money on the transponder.

ETV needs to take a few radical decisions, and I for one wish them good luck.  I'm sure they would be happy to hear any practical suggestions we might have.....

19.09.2008, 13:20

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Bellerophon I agree with you but I also think that a very big problem is that **** now is inside the EU. The girls there thinking to much for a better salary. I am Dutch and I work over 15 years in the Czech Rep. The same problems in the last years are here.

18.09.2008, 01:09

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Eurotic tv don´t need to many models if they don´t do nothing!! The channel needs only a few sexy and hot models - Gia, Bella,Patricia,Brona,Sabrina,.Not *** models as Lace!!!!

16.09.2008, 13:08

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I was referring to this:

[Versteckter Link - Registrierung notwendig]

Maybe this is Mr ETV.
:))))))

16.09.2008, 12:13

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Do you like Supertramp, bellerophon? :)))

06.04.2008, 16:48

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regards the situation on ETV2, I think one has to consider the following.

The management has a  contract with Eutelsat for 2 transponders at present, one of which caters for the Arab, Italian and other non German markets under the Hotbird footprint. Nobody here is aware of the contract conditions.

When the current lease expires, there may be a change. but until then if I was paying for it I would make use of it. Whether or not I can sub-lease is another matter.

E+ was used in one form or another until the contract expired. It wasn't renewed.
the same fate will surely await the ETV2 program unless ETV in general can make it profitable. That is business sense and applicable Worldwide.

Another point, the SMS and telephone sex lines are not the only income.

The so called Astra show is obvously profitable hence the new transponder, and or the SES Astra are moving the transponders internally to other wavebands/satelites - who knows.

E2 is not a complete dead loss, sometimes 1 model wears 2 or 3 headsets, it depends  rather on who she is.

sometimes however all three can get a good days/nights sleep or chat among themselves or even read books or learn foreign languages.

and now to generalize about the complete situation
re models coming and going.

the Playboy titilation level is now widely accepted by society and no longer frowned upon, so if a student for example wants some quick pocket money for a few months
and can live with herself doing this kind of job, why not.
There are of course others who can't or won't they don't stay, it is up to the individual. I myself respect the models there more from day to day, the speed in which they learn languages means that none of them are stupid.

I final question, would you like your daughter to work there ??

I'll quote DB on this one
"talk the talk or walk the walk" is what is required and it is not this sites superstars  who are earning the money with the talking.
the majority here are very much more concerned with the "lookers" i.e. walkers.

thank you for some interesting reading today. crisis what crisis

if they ETV have one, end product - black screen, so what.
if the viewers  have one they are in trouble.

06.04.2008, 16:06

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Forget about the wages. If one or three models doesn’t really change the costs, the difference is somewhere in the one digit percentage area.I  do not think that they are exactly happy with the benefit of e2, but it doesn’t seem to be worse enough to close it down. With one model shows, it is definitely loss making without a chance to get an even balance.
I have no knowledge about agency contacts. I wouldn’t wonder if there are some, but I don’t think, that there are agreements about a fixed number of models that the involved agency (if there is one) has to “deliver”..
Do the new models really know what is expecting them? I’m not sure. Most of them seem unprepared for this “adventure”? So how would you feel being thrown into this mess? Would you stay? I think it’s preparation, the mood in the studio, the callers, the sms-writers …. DB’s vintage satire [Versteckter Link - Registrierung notwendig] sums it up quite well: is this the kind of calls you want to receive on your first working day? That’s why I was referring to hiring a model agency lead by someone who knows about this job and can prepare the models accordingly, tell them what will happen, what is expected from them, give them tips how to deal with callers, …
 

06.04.2008, 12:29

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Maybe they can't but they need to employ more girls otherwise they can't cover all shifts.

06.04.2008, 12:13

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Although I like this idea, please take into consideration, that e2 is not on astra, where presumably most of the callers watch e1. Also a one girl show won’t pay the bills for etv. Maybe they could jump over their shadow and rent some airtime (preferably in the late evening) to other companies (that would also have to jump over their shadows)? It could be a win-win situation, but as it is “only” hotbird, that might not be an option. Maybe they should hire an agency, run by someone who knows and could prepare them accordingly, to provide the models.

06.04.2008, 11:47

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I am absolutely positive that solo shows on etv2 could work as good. They should work as one hour solo  shows, with a good camera work, and a good performance of a model I believe it could be a sucess. Look at today. We have 3 girls sitting there doing nothing, camera 5-6 metres away. People should maybe vote on etv1 for which girl they wanna see in a extra hot single show. I am sure that if proffesionally done, it would work. Maybe some of you dont agree with me because the idea in my head is diferent then you think. I would never allowe girls to be as passive as we see today. Of course I dont blame girls for that for long time. We all know who is to blame. You can have 10 girls on one show, and it will suck anyway.

06.04.2008, 11:34

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Well, I studied business organization and industrial relationship at University, so I could suggest some advices:

You of course can employ more models, but to do this you have to set a recruiting staff, because girls brought by agency went almost all away, and my advice is to recruit as hot as possible, and no one knows your needs better than yourself (you lost in last times girls as Jaya, Tyra, Lana, Megita, Tia, you can't replace them with Britney & co.).

You can also pay more present models (motivation follows money) and make more comfortable your bedrooms.

Finally you of course can reduce number of models per show, actually this solution has been already done, some shows there were 6 girls instead of seven, or 5 instead of 6, or 4 instead of 5 (just yesterday morning the masked one said she was sick and went away, let's see if this is a goodbye).

Outside (the lonely rider) :)))))))))

06.04.2008, 08:59

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my deepest sympathy for all of them, especially for the models working like a dynamo.

sincerely,

al-qatari (the three musketeers - the arabic-german musketeer)

06.04.2008, 01:13

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due to ot ==> [Versteckter Link - Registrierung notwendig]

06.04.2008, 01:01

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But  Allegra and Priscilla came to Germany to keep on dancing in a club. I think it's also about the working conditions and the money of course. If ETV changes every 3 months or so the studio deco it will cost lot of money. Money which the girls should have earned better.

ps.: Girls like to be admired. At least some. ;-))

06.04.2008, 00:42

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... and left after just a few shows. I'm very sure that they liked f4f even less than etv and only did it to get through some financial crises.