Eurotic TV - General Discussion

There is a board that decides about your program being in conflict with the rules and your complaint will be decided by the same board.
What argument do you have against the accusation that the sight of a bare bum on TV in connection with a call in show is negatively influencing the social and ethical development of minors?
The only that comes to my mind is: bulls**t

Siegfried wrote:Of course I'm not saying that they should switch off the FTA show at any time.
What I'm really proposing I suppose is ETV 2 again but this time ETV 2 is encrypted for hot night shows.
As to encryption system, if they own one, why not then give away or sell very cheaply the CAMs for it to their loyal viewers who want to give them more money via subscription.
If those at Diva F can do it, I reckon so can ETV

Leave me to say that Diva Futra isn't been a good experiment...the reasons are written in other thread and until some week ago was possible to read it in an interesting forum.

HvB wrote:Do you think that experiment is worth investing roughly € 100 000 to 150 000/month?

Sorry but if you speak of nonsense...you speak even about yourself.

'€ 100 000 to 150 000/month' (Apart the fact this prize isn't right) anyway you write: '/months', maybe it would be more right to write: '/year'

I dont have time to give a long answer now but I'll appreciate if you will be more specific I haven't changed my mind on what I have written should judge things on a longer span of time but as I said I'll be happy to expand my theory later on this week.

the-muppet wrote:it's up to them not to take all and not to accept the whole decision of rtr. those who accept all are those putted down. they've never heard about "objection"?

Good idea.
Pitty there isn't something like an objection.
You may battle your way through the courts for the next 10 years though and even when you finaly win, your license will have expired. Without a direct way of objection you can't go on like before. The measures imposed by the regulator stay in place even if you go to court and may be lifted if you win your battle. You will have to pay your legal fees by yourself in any way. So accepting a minor fine and obey to the rules makes financially much more sense.
Pitty, but that's the way it is.

the-muppet wrote:it's the show counting, not the license

true

Unfortunately the license is coupled to some regulation ... even though the laws haven't changed, their interpretation has changed a lot. So it's a constant game of considering what may be appropriate at this time. As we know from the fine they have already overestimated what is allowed once. And before someone asks: there is no written set of rules. rtr decides on a case to case basis with what they currently consider to be generally accepted and acceptable. Much of guessing and hoping for a channel operator in this game and more to lose than to win.

HvB wrote:

Siegfried wrote:Of course I'm not saying that they should switch off the FTA show at any time.
What I'm really proposing I suppose is ETV 2 again but this time ETV 2 is encrypted for hot night shows.
As to encryption system, if they own one, why not then give away or sell very cheaply the CAMs for it to their loyal viewers who want to give them more money via subscription.
If those at Diva F can do it, I reckon so can ETV

Do you think that experiment is worth investing roughly € 100 000 to 150 000/month?

What I think doesn't matter.
Do you think the owners of Diva Futura are smarter than ETV owners to be able to do it ?
How many would pay I don't even know how to guess. I know that I would.

Yasmine1 wrote:There are many things obviously I dont understand regarding ETV's strategy but the thing that perplex me the most recently is the reintroduction of the veteran models as hot models obviously some of them were hot in the past : Angie Sabrina Aria Tia Tessa but now we see Athena like we have never seen before Spirit who is becoming hotter every show the comeback of Kia and some bits of Penelope and Gia not to mention Jannen who maybe was working at the channel many years ago. On the other had the younger models are somehow tamed down or leaving the channel .... I can only speculate that this has to do with future plans of ETV as if they want to enter the new period with models who are tagged as soft models (eventually they will all become rather soft) or will be models for any future PPV. In the past when this service was introduced I said that usually people wont pay for something they get for free so either the shows will become softer of the PPV will become harder ... Meantime you still have to run a show so you call to the flag all veteran models that probably one day not in very far future will leave the channel.

Here you pose a theory about ETV strategy with a list of names, but not long ago

Yasmine1 wrote:As already stated previously there is a limited number of models who are allowed to practice in hot activity in this order Jannen (all the time) Kristina , Lin Sabrina, Calomira (the same) the rest are maybe totally nude but are getting less and less the camera attention... It appears anyone returning from a short vacation is tamed down ... Yesterday Scarlet (I hope this was only one night but it could be the reason for her removal on Wednesday night see who is on schedule) lets hope that we still have Amy with us ....
Obviously I can just speculate eventually the number of models will be naught or the rest will be available in a future PPV because I don't think that ETV can continue long with these sort of day shows
Hopefully I am totally wrong and tonights show will be a great and hot show

your theory about ETV strategy and the list of names was quit different. Which should it be? Would you say the other one is flawed?

the-muppet wrote:HvB belongs to those which are more connected to etv than any usual viewer...

No need for that. All the information is public and can be read on the pages of [Versteckter Link - Registrierung notwendig]

Siegfried wrote:Of course I'm not saying that they should switch off the FTA show at any time.
What I'm really proposing I suppose is ETV 2 again but this time ETV 2 is encrypted for hot night shows.
As to encryption system, if they own one, why not then give away or sell very cheaply the CAMs for it to their loyal viewers who want to give them more money via subscription.
If those at Diva F can do it, I reckon so can ETV

Do you think that experiment is worth investing roughly € 100 000 to 150 000/month?

samakkary wrote:How do you know that the license for channel does not exist basically still valid. I think that this is the real nonsense.

There are some people out there that can actually read ... and they read that the license was granted for 10 years, that it was never revoked or withdrawn and that it was never given back, so it is stil valid.
Anything else you need to have explained in more detail?

HvB wrote:

samakkary wrote:If you know how much I want to encrypt this channel. but Etv will not be able to do so for two reasons.
First, they will have to change the license which is more expensive.

Where did you get this information from?
It's nonsense.
1) There is no difference between a license for an encrypted channel and one for a fta channel.
2) They have the license for an encrypted channel. The one for x-plos was changed, the one for InXtc is still granted and valid.

samakkary wrote:Secondly, which is the most important, they will lose the private advertisements, which is the adoption of the main channel at the present time as you see.

Not only the SMS and VIP. Also a lot of viewers in regulated markets like Arabia and of course they would lose lots of callers.
Additionally: which encryption system should be used? There are many on the European market and they aren't compatible. Also license fees have to be paid for the encryption system, which makes it pretty expensive. They own one encryption system, but it's not a very common one, so no one has a receiver or ca module capable of handling it.

Of course I'm not saying that they should switch off the FTA show at any time.
What I'm really proposing I suppose is ETV 2 again but this time ETV 2 is encrypted for hot night shows.
As to encryption system, if they own one, why not then give away or sell very cheaply the CAMs for it to their loyal viewers who want to give them more money via subscription.
If those at Diva F can do it, I reckon so can ETV

HvB wrote:

samakkary wrote:If you know how much I want to encrypt this channel. but Etv will not be able to do so for two reasons.
First, they will have to change the license which is more expensive.

Where did you get this information from?
It's nonsense.
.

How do you know that the license for channel does not exist basically still valid. I think that this is the real nonsense.

samakkary wrote:If you know how much I want to encrypt this channel. but Etv will not be able to do so for two reasons.
First, they will have to change the license which is more expensive.

Where did you get this information from?
It's nonsense.
1) There is no difference between a license for an encrypted channel and one for a fta channel.
2) They have the license for an encrypted channel. The one for x-plos was changed, the one for InXtc is still granted and valid.

samakkary wrote:Secondly, which is the most important, they will lose the private advertisements, which is the adoption of the main channel at the present time as you see.

Not only the SMS and VIP. Also a lot of viewers in regulated markets like Arabia and of course they would lose lots of callers.
Additionally: which encryption system should be used? There are many on the European market and they aren't compatible. Also license fees have to be paid for the encryption system, which makes it pretty expensive. They own one encryption system, but it's not a very common one, so no one has a receiver or ca module capable of handling it.

Back then everything was different ETV was still an unknown channel with a small install base of viewers and second most important the variety of FTA channels offering some very explicit materila during the day was quite big now hen you zap through the 1000 of channels you hardly find 1 single channel !
And if things will turn like predicted I don't see any other future to night shows !!

If you know how much I want to encrypt this channel. but Etv will not be able to do so for two reasons.
First, they will have to change the license which is more expensive.
Secondly, which is the most important, they will lose the private advertisements, which is the adoption of the main channel at the present time as you see.