Eurotic TV - General Discussion

Depends on the director (what he or she thinks is allowed), the mood of the models, the callers, the VIPs, ... If all goes fine, we see a good show. Sometimes it just doesn't work.

Anyway the last Thursday (and not only) is been an hot show.
Why there isn't always that level? maybe the justification (for someone) is:
Etv makes often teasing to gain the money which are necessary to pay the sanction which is been received when is been trasmitted an hot show.

No guys, maybe we speak of censorship's rules when there isn't need.

Just to be clear:
Of course Etv isn't at the level of Sexysat fingering of pussy...and of course isn't a channel where is possible to see penetration, but it's evident that it isn't forbidden the explicit nudity even during an action of spread legs or a doggystyle.

Then guys, there isn't always need to a justification for the strategy (this is the right word) of the channel.
It's sufficient to say that etv has the possibility to make an hot show, but it choose the way of teasing because this way is a bait for the viewer.

P.S.This time my post isn't a complaint. It's only a reflection. I hope to have been clear.

So, to sum up ...

eUrotic TV, as it stands, is closed down and a new 'Hot' encrypted night show channel is opened up.
20,000 members of this forum sign up at €10/month and are very happy ... .

Now, some of us that enjoy eUrotic TV as it is have a hole in our lives ...
... maybe some of the models don't want to work under the new format ...
Looks like a business opportunity to me ... open up a station like the old eUrotic TV and employ the ex-models.

But then ... people will come along and want to see 'Hot' shows ... round we go again ... .

the-muppet wrote:I would do some theatre shows, better said variety. maybe to make some little acts with short stories, some tricks or something like sketches, why not bring the models hobbies partly to show with some selfdialoges, or somehow... but there would be one problem: it takes some time to prepare

Good ideas.
As I don't have holes in hands and feet and can't walk on water, I don't know what will happen and I'm not sure they know or have finaly decided. What I see is that most channels were either removed or have given up and my personal impression of the market is that it is shrinking since 2006. Maybe still lots of viewers, but no one willing to pay. So maybe it's time to do something completly different in the times you are limited to fully dressed models.

luca82 wrote:Maybe even you haven't understand my intention; just to be clear:

1) you have written '€ 100 000 to 150 000/month'
2) I've written '/year' because I've thinked (misunderstanding) you make a reference to the customer of Diva Futura.

I understood. But thanks for the clarification.

There is something else. If there was a boredom on my screen i will not pay a metal single piece for that . But if is encrypted with good shows ,i will buys the card whatever the price as I do now with the rest channels.

HvB wrote:

luca82 wrote:No problem I've thinked that your '€ 100 000 to 150 000/month' was in reference to the subscription of the customers

ah, ok
So now we may estimate how many subscribers there will be. From that we may calculate what the necessary fee would be. If it would be 10 000 subscribers for 20 €/month it could work, but there wouldn't be much interactivity anymore. Much less calls and fewer VIPs. So the shows must be more planned and organized. This also means the shows would change. It also means that the fans of certain models wouldn't prolong the subscription if those models leave. And new subscribers are very unlikely as the girls will be invisible until you buy a subscription. Of course the even more softened fta channel wouldn't earn much anymore, which means we would either have to close it or we need at least 20 000 subscribers. Unlikely I think.

Your calculation it's very interestig, But I don't know because you have make it.

Maybe even you haven't understand my intention; just to be clear:

1) you have written '€ 100 000 to 150 000/month'
2) I've written '/year' because I've thinked (misunderstanding) you make a reference to the customer of Diva Futura.

the-muppet wrote:

HvB wrote:That's two of the offenses mentioned in the decission. A bare breast and simulated oral stimulation on a breast are the others.

if you are talking about "Bescheid der KommAustria vom 08.09.2009" than you have to read right. there was mentioned the "bares" during day shows, not night shows!!! and those vip-sms (no need to talk about). but etv still got the possibility to chat, you know what i mean? nothing bare, just cloth and moving. but they still prefer to sit around and do nothing.

talking about daytime shows there is now much creativity demanded etv don't got. there would be different solutions. erotic don't need bare parts. never heard about "dressed to kill"?

there was nothing mentioned about nudity forbidden in nightshows. looks etv needs some lessons in "how to interprate law textes"...

They have reacted as you mentioned and limited the nudity to the nightshow. Only the day shows are boring, especially the ones with the fixed cam in the morning. But I don't see much future in the dayshows anyway. I would expect them to be replaced with something else rather sooner than later.

luca82 wrote:No problem I've thinked that your '€ 100 000 to 150 000/month' was in reference to the subscription of the customers

ah, ok
So now we may estimate how many subscribers there will be. From that we may calculate what the necessary fee would be. If it would be 10 000 subscribers for 20 €/month it could work, but there wouldn't be much interactivity anymore. Much less calls and fewer VIPs. So the shows must be more planned and organized. This also means the shows would change. It also means that the fans of certain models wouldn't prolong the subscription if those models leave. And new subscribers are very unlikely as the girls will be invisible until you buy a subscription. Of course the even more softened fta channel wouldn't earn much anymore, which means we would either have to close it or we need at least 20 000 subscribers. Unlikely I think.

the-muppet wrote:

HvB wrote:What argument do you have against the accusation that the sight of a bare bum on TV in connection with a call in show is negatively influencing the social and ethical development of minors?

well, it's serious ment?

i think it's harder to see westerwille uncensored all the time and here his speaking and destroys the youth more...

That's two of the offenses mentioned in the decission. A bare breast and simulated oral stimulation on a breast are the others.

HvB wrote:

luca82 wrote:'€ 100 000 to 150 000/month' (Apart the fact this prize isn't right) anyway you write: '/months', maybe it would be more right to write: '/year'

again: the ones that can read have a clear advantage: Current prices for the necessary bandwidth on ASTRA is around 60 000 €/month (if available at all). Hotbird is just gradually cheaper. Now add to this the additional staff, technical equipment, license fees, heat, electricity, water, .... and you will see my assumption is very conservative and at the lowest end.

No problem I've thinked that your '€ 100 000 to 150 000/month' was in reference to the subscription of the customers

luca82 wrote:'€ 100 000 to 150 000/month' (Apart the fact this prize isn't right) anyway you write: '/months', maybe it would be more right to write: '/year'

again: the ones that can read have a clear advantage: Current prices for the necessary bandwidth on ASTRA is around 60 000 €/month (if available at all). Hotbird is just gradually cheaper. Now add to this the additional staff, technical equipment, license fees, heat, electricity, water, .... and you will see my assumption is very conservative and at the lowest end.

@ Siegfried

Nobody will watch or call.

HvB wrote:

the-muppet wrote:it's the show counting, not the license

true

Unfortunately the license is coupled to some regulation ... even though the laws haven't changed, their interpretation has changed a lot. So it's a constant game of considering what may be appropriate at this time. As we know from the fine they have already overestimated what is allowed once. And before someone asks: there is no written set of rules. rtr decides on a case to case basis with what they currently consider to be generally accepted and acceptable. Much of guessing and hoping for a channel operator in this game and more to lose than to win.

Then they are skating on thin ice all the time and will keep soft to avoid another fine.
Good argument for an encrypted alternative version.

And music vids like this one [Versteckter Link - Registrierung notwendig] can be put on the screen 24-7 go figure