Eurotic TV - General Discussion

maurois wrote:for me is a big mistery why somebody to spend her money in the day show in Eurotic tv.

Maybe because he appreciates a model as a person?
In this case, he will call her at any time of day.
Not such a "big mystery", I think..........

Before, the day show was boring, but, now....in the death in live
I know not is a new news but I need to tell.
Sometimes, for me is complicate to understad what the people call eurotic tv in the night show but, and sorry If somebody disturb that, for me is a big mistery why somebody to spend her money in the day show in Eurotic tv. Please, not is a criticism, everybody is free to spend her money when they wants. It´s only some questions I have when I am boring

Michael_N wrote:If ETV wants to increase the income, I see the following way. Gradually, step by step the 'soft' models such as Cleopatra, Brona, Evah, Joanna, Brianna transform to the 'warm' models .

Would be very exciting, sure, but unfortunately Brona, Cleopatra and Evah (the others i don't know) seems at least not be interested. If you need a confirm, just call her and ask.

Michael_N wrote:If ETV wants to increase the income, I see the following way. Gradually, step by step the 'soft' models such as Cleopatra, Brona, Evah, Joanna, Brianna transform to the 'warm' models . This path successfully passed Scarlet, Gia (not fully), Mashiara, Lia, Brizeida, Jacqueline, and the other 'warm' and 'hot' models. Now this route is successfully passing Shelley and Giselle. Girls need to understand where they work and what the men who pay for their work wait from them.

I agree with you, 100%

If ETV wants to increase the income, I see the following way. Gradually, step by step the 'soft' models such as Cleopatra, Brona, Evah, Joanna, Brianna transform to the 'warm' models . This path successfully passed Scarlet, Gia (not fully), Mashiara, Lia, Brizeida, Jacqueline, and the other 'warm' and 'hot' models. Now this route is successfully passing Shelley and Giselle. Girls need to understand where they work and what the men who pay for their work wait from them.

jost54 wrote:Is it not strange, that a nude person can be more dangerous for minors than all the depictions of violence in the media ?

Actually, the youth protection laws name pornography and violence in one breath. However, it seems that there's no such strong lobby against the exposure of violence in the media, so they still can show violence to full extent. This is not the fault of the laws - it's the fault of the persons who interpret and apply the laws. And it seems that eroticism/pornography is assessed much more controversially in our "modern" society than brute violence.

arimolac wrote:

lucifer70 wrote:We must remember that ETV makes specific promises in its advertising (we turn your fantasies.... etc) and through its moderators. So ETV is bound to provide certain services. Not to meet the legitimate demands of customers, who pay, it would simply lead to reputational damage and economic cost for ETV.
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ETV makes no effort to satisfy their customers because they basically have never had respect for them and this is now becoming clearer.

ETV is just making advertising for its services, and it's in the nature of advertising that much more is promised than can be kept.

Unfortunately, ETV is in the bad situation that it's getting harder and harder to keep erotic promises, while the self-proclaimed moralists are growing stronger and stronger. I don't see any disrespect for the customers on the side of ETV. They are just struggling with the new "Zeitgeist".

my friend, ETV specifically asks you to call or send sms to get what you want (the promises are kept for professionalism this is their job). None but a fetishist nw, manages to get realy what he wants. This is not an accident.
If their situation is dificult, they should blame only themselves and nobody else. They struggle to survive? If this is their way of fighting (that is, ignoring the clients) then it will be a very short fight.

Well a boring show not that I thought it will be better and yes who is the leading star tonight Randa and yes Randa and when she is having her coffee break we are lucky to get Kristina and a few shots of Lia and Amy ... beside some hot seconds from Mashiara no show for her tonight obviously we may still see her later but the amount of full explicit nudity is limited to virtual nothing .... Sic transit gloria mundi

Funnily enough it's actually the people that fought in the late 60s for freedom who now try to turn the clock back ...
Yes, there have been scientific researches on that topic, but the studies differ in the results.

arimolac wrote:Unfortunately, ETV is in the bad situation that it's getting harder and harder to keep erotic promises, while the self-proclaimed moralists are growing stronger and stronger. I don't see any disrespect for the customers on the side of ETV. They are just struggling with the new "Zeitgeist".

Interestingly, these moralists are mainly grown up in the 1960s and 70s what was the time of the sexual revolution. Maybe they saw too much nudity at that time.
Is it not strange, that a nude person can be more dangerous for minors than all the depictions of violence in the media ?
Does anyone know if that is scientifically proven ?

arimolac wrote:

luca82 wrote:This is the conclusion depending on yuor point of view.

Sorry, I can't follow your conclusions, and I don't find my point of view therein.

The moving pictures shown on the screen are partly advertising, in order to attract customers, partly a part of the delivered service, and it really doesn't matter if it involves nudity or not. This is irrelevant. My point is that ETV is nothing special - just an ordinary call center offering a special product called "erotic". And customers shouldn't expect more from it than from any other call center.

Whether the advertising is successful, and whether the delivered service is appropriate with respect to the request, is another story. But even in this respect, ETV is no different from any other call center.

Etv is an ordinary call center? Therefore you believe that in an ordinary call center the girls are nude? (if yes give me the adress )

if you continue to think that etv is only a call center, how you make to justify the money gain by the management through the nudity of the girl?

Only a call center? No, it's better say: erotic channel who gain money using the girls like bait (maybe this is the right description). Have I say this is wrong? No.
Instead depending on your point of view (only call center) there isn't need to watch the image on the video.
Therefore (depending on your point of view) why doesn't to make only a radio version of the show? (If I'm not wrong this ironic suggestion was already made by Bronkingbull)

lucifer70 wrote:We must remember that ETV makes specific promises in its advertising (we turn your fantasies.... etc) and through its moderators. So ETV is bound to provide certain services. Not to meet the legitimate demands of customers, who pay, it would simply lead to reputational damage and economic cost for ETV.
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ETV makes no effort to satisfy their customers because they basically have never had respect for them and this is now becoming clearer.

ETV is just making advertising for its services, and it's in the nature of advertising that much more is promised than can be kept.

Unfortunately, ETV is in the bad situation that it's getting harder and harder to keep erotic promises, while the self-proclaimed moralists are growing stronger and stronger. I don't see any disrespect for the customers on the side of ETV. They are just struggling with the new "Zeitgeist".

jonas wrote:We can see that ETV has changed very much in the last years at these words of a newer viewer like arimolac:
"ETV is a CALL CENTER."
In 2006 or 2007 nobody would have written this sentence. It was obvious for every viewer that ETV in these years was an EROTIC CHANNEL.

Well, OK, I didn't watch ETV from the very beginnings, but I'm already around for some years, so I know ETV when it still was showing nudity at daytime. But I have to say: It ALREADY WAS a call center at that time! The concept didn't change much. The only thing that changed is that ETV lost a lot of its freedom due to the surveillance of the "delegates of youth protection".

We must remember that ETV makes specific promises in its advertising (we turn your fantasies.... etc) and through its moderators. So ETV is bound to provide certain services. Not to meet the legitimate demands of customers, who pay, it would simply lead to reputational damage and economic cost for ETV.
This leads to:
- A decrease of VIP SMS that, now, are sent by a limited number of customers (and always the same)
- ETV can not attract new customers
- a sharp drop in phone calls (Just see the show on Friday or Saturday)
This strange and very confusing situation in which ETV is, it was due to the failure of a group of "managers" (define they this way) that have absolutely no idea on how to modernize and bring on a show like this (just look at the mess with the frequency change). For months we see with our eyes the absurd decisions taken by these "leaders", every decision has made things worse.
Their dream is to get money from customers without giving anything in return.
This is obviously impossible to achieve in the real world, but ETV has not yet understood. So they continue to wear out without gaining anything. The management of the transition of Gia from soft model in hot model is a practical and current example of their lack of entrepreneurial spirit that turned a potential source of large gains in a mysterious object that only rarely is able to guarantee good performance and earnings.
In this way, the show is no longer able to involve a large number of customers, but it draws almost exclusively a minority that constantly asks to see leggins, feet, shoes, balloons .. and a number of foolish things that cause the flight of those customers, the larger, who are in front of the television to relax and enjoy themself talking to some nice girl
or watching a show that has as protagonists beautiful and, why not, naked girls.
ETV makes no effort to satisfy their customers because they basically have never had respect for them and this is now becoming clearer.

We can see that ETV has changed very much in the last years at these words of a newer viewer like arimolac:

"ETV is a CALL CENTER."

In 2006 or 2007 nobody would have written this sentence. It was obvious for every viewer that ETV in these years was an EROTIC CHANNEL.
That viewers also could call the models in that years was not so important.
The SHOW was important, and it was important that viewers could send WISHES FOR THE SHOW
Today it is only important that ETV earns money with calls! So ETV approaches more and more to the lot of poor, simple call channels like "arabian girls", ...
ETV looses more and more the exceptional position which it had some years ago.