Eurotic TV - General Discussion

bellerophon wrote:

Tarl_Cabot wrote:bellerophon's statistic is using the average VIPs and doesn't show the total received VIPs. and also the average time "being busy at the phone" isn't shown in any statistic.

To be clear, in order to work out the averages which we publish monthly, we do of course take the total number of VIPs received by each model (or shared) each time they are on, and divide them by the number of nightshow hours worked each night and then each month. It would be easy, though time-consuming, to publish a nightly total for each model, but an average over a month is statistically more meaningful, provided the model has worked a reasonably large number of hours.

So yes, the order of the monthly list is probably fairly accurate simply as far as VIP SMS are concerned. However there are some models who receive far more calls than they do sms (the ones with a lot of fans), and vice versa (the ones with a only few fans who send a lot of messages), and of course, although the counters can observe, they cannot count the calls or their duration. The results also militate a bit against the girls who always work unpopular nights - like Sunday and Monday, and now Tuesday and Wednesday.

All we can reasonably conclude is that some models are vastly more sought-after than others, and that there are some who empirically get very few sms and seemingly very few calls either yet appear on many nightshows. For me that is the interesting bit.- whether ETV takes any notice of its own stats (if it still even bothers to produce them). It is also very easy to calculate the total number of VIP sms or sms/model/hour received and compare it month by month. You may be quite interested at the comparison between December 2011 and December 2012. That will be published on January 2nd.

As I always stress, it's a broad brush, not an exact science, even though counting the number of sms is very easy indeed. Having said that, I'm so glad I'm not the one (or ones) actually doing it

I doubt that it will continue in such detail in 2013. What I might ask the team to do is to take a random week every month. We'll see.

I am certainly the models of Etv differently count.
She counts in such a way:
I have this number of VIPs SMS, this number of phone calls and success with premium hour.
This proves my plasticine with ETv.
Maybe we should also add everything together and then calculate a ranking.

Joker1305 wrote:

Tarl_Cabot wrote:... and Karry is an etv problem, independent of any places in any rankings.

I'd rather say she is the symptom of the problem.
ETV bosses (if there are any deserving this title) have no strategic idea.
Just following what at the time makes the most money, but not considering what could bring more money nor any long term effects.
It's probably nice for them the Thursday's shows are the most profitable, but it doesn't necessarily mean it will be most profitable doing that 7 times a week.
Also Karry's and Jessica's admirers in the end don't have unlimited money, so it's presumably no good idea to exasperate the fans of the other girls nor the girls themselves.

Regards
Joker

We position ourselves before a show Thursday night. Namely with the Models:Karry, Jessica Evah, Brona, Nikita and Brona. And this makes Etv during 1 month. Then time how much VIP SMS look still come.
I maintain models like Karry profit from the curiosity of the spectators and that is soon exhausted.
From the naked models like Roshanna, Michele. Then Angelina or Aliyah profits Karry and your other softies. We had complete censorship with Etv already once and almost the lights would have gone out in the studios. One should not make this mistake once again.

[qDigg-like teeth, and shoes from foot head with fingers still manages to show why this woman this ETV management.If there is no other way, the show will make people do instead of putting people on the simpleton.

Well it's been two weeks since my last visit here and a lot longer watching the un-erotic channel.
Guess what ? reading the forum it's still same sh*t and the same old days.

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and to all the members who contribute to this great forum...
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Tarl_Cabot wrote:... and Karry is an etv problem, independent of any places in any rankings.

I'd rather say she is the symptom of the problem.
ETV bosses (if there are any deserving this title) have no strategic idea.
Just following what at the time makes the most money, but not considering what could bring more money nor any long term effects.
It's probably nice for them the Thursday's shows are the most profitable, but it doesn't necessarily mean it will be most profitable doing that 7 times a week.
Also Karry's and Jessica's admirers in the end don't have unlimited money, so it's presumably no good idea to exasperate the fans of the other girls nor the girls themselves.

Regards
Joker

CommanderData wrote:Big thx to Hilbert for the Vid with Tias last statement You are always there and attentive in the big moments, that is a unique talent!

Even in this bitter moment Tia gives her statement with dignity and style, something that so called "stars" at ETV will never have, maybe never even will be able to understand.

Good bye Tia, I hope you find a better place to work soon . . .. not only with shampoo, but where you are treated with respect.


Data

Hello Data. Where is the Vid with Tia's last statement? I can not find it. Thanks in advance. And thanks to Hilbert for his intresting post's

Tarl_Cabot wrote:

Hilbert wrote:I should have kept quiet!

nope. but you should have asked bellerophon for the sum of the VIPs in total because you (should) know that the average over some month without taking care of the shows in total isn't a good value. and Karry is an etv problem, independent of any places in any rankings.

Isn´t it an Etv problem to let here doing it.
It is never good to put all one's eggs into one basket (I hope I said this correct )

"I know we must probably accept Karry That is the current money maker (in total) and of etv Thus the most powerful model".

This is one of the problems, I repeat that I've nothing against Karrie (why should I), but if today she is one of the money maker of the show, this should make us understand how the target of ETV has been moved permanently down.

Regards

Hilbert wrote:I should have kept quiet!

nope. but you should have asked bellerophon for the sum of the VIPs in total because you (should) know that the average over some month without taking care of the shows in total isn't a good value. and Karry is an etv problem, independent of any places in any rankings.

It's getting worse and the decrease don't stop!

Yesterday another tryout of ETV since Stars like GIA and SCARLET have left. It's just unbelieveable, these girls can not be replaced - of course not with the junk, actually is on air!

It's sad, because in former times we saw great erotic shows on FTA then we paid to see this great performances via web - the price was ok for the fantastic things Gia for example offered her fans, and today i wouldn't even pay trouser button to log in

... the sadness is still on air

Joker1305 wrote:And considering the Thursday show 2 weeks ago without Karry but with Roshanna as director also wasn't really great it's maybe still more a matter of ETV policy and the staff behind cam and mixer than of the director.

without a doubt is Karry only one of the etv problems nowadays. but Karry is discussed because Karry is one of the problems in front of the cam and thus visible, in "direct" (with some too much) contact with the viewers and discussible for all while most and probably the bigger problems are behind the cam and thus not really visible or just topic of theories which often or mostly cannot be proved in any way.

without a doubt and any discussion is that etv has problems, really big problems to make anything that could be called erotic or show. it's mostly wasted time for the viewers and probably often wasted money for persons who send VIP wishes that aren't love letters or greetings.

Tarl_Cabot wrote:... and after a quick look at the statistic I guess Karry is for 2012 (iirc she was in the month before with less night shows sometimes the No.1) at least between the Top3. and another sign for her power (of course caused in the made money) is the fact that the soon-to-bed soft shows on thursday are "her" shows. before e.g. only Scarlet with the Scarlet Fever or Gia (for some weeks with more than average VIPs) were the stars of their own shows. but Karry bores us now since some month and these shows are always the most successful show of the week.
so we must probably accept that Karry is the current money maker (in total) of etv and thus the most powerful model.

And considering the Thursday show 2 weeks ago without Karry but with Roshanna as director also wasn't really great it's maybe still more a matter of ETV policy and the staff behind cam and mixer than of the director.

ehhmmm ... ... Joanna calls Rene a monster because she doesn't know a Rene.
iirc does Rene write sometimes VIPs to etv. thus we would have to compare more VIPs to get a (nearly) right conclusion.

Actually I was rather amused than making deeper investigations about that

Regards
Joker

Slowfox wrote:... and does it really matter ?

No. But useless things sometimes are kind of funny

Regards
Joker

Actually Etv is like a boring routine in married life.