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skyfree wrote:Yes, every one is free to do what want to do with own money. And i'm free to say what i think of Etv and Els

me too

logic wrote:[To the money: I spend credits if I like something and don't spend if I don't like it. It's simple!

Is it? With the newest ELS changes you have to pay first to see the whole show and they won't refund afterwards if you didn't like, just as with premium shows.

Yes, every one is free to do what want to do with own money. And i'm free to say what i think of Etv and Els

I'm bursting out laughing for an hour. They are incredible....ah..ah..ah
The problem itself is not pay or not pay.
The problem is paying for what?
Who really trusts ETV promises?
Now you pay the "Premium" and then? You'll pay the "super premium"? And then the "super ultra premium" etc......... and always for the same show?????
ETV is realized, finally, that the web doesn't do anything. They are desperate, so they try to force their customers to pay more.
Now, if customers are not fools, excuse the rude term, they'll have the chance to give ETV a lesson that they'll remember for a long time.
I repeat, the problem is not whether it's right to pay, the problem is they've any respect for you, the clients?
I think no , but you get the power and its name is "account"!

skyfree wrote:

brudgon wrote:

skyfree wrote:There is a very simple system to stop the cheating of ETV: stop give them money. Stop pay "premium show". Stop pay absurd prices for gift for model (or cam-girl). They take the piss all people!!!!

this is you opinion but who pay for this show had another opinion
i think now here there is a little battle for paying or not paying
there are people paying and people not pay...where is the problem?

I saw that those who have paid for the show is very happy........

happiness is the spice of life
why biased who pay? every one is free to do what want to do with own money or not?
i'm not a gold member but i'm thinking to become after i read comments about ELS
for example gia
every one of us have tastes

CommanderData wrote:@ logic


Now I unterstand why you call yourself a "ETV-victim"

So what, it is your money . . . Hope you have fun

Exactly! They got me, after years without spending a single cent.

And I have with the shows now not the fun I had some time ago, for several reasons.
But I like to watch ETV, because it's unique. And after years it's like watching good friends. But I know, I'm only a customer and that's why I used the word "victim".

To the money: I spend credits if I like something and don't spend if I don't like it. It's simple!

brudgon wrote:

skyfree wrote:There is a very simple system to stop the cheating of ETV: stop give them money. Stop pay "premium show". Stop pay absurd prices for gift for model (or cam-girl). They take the piss all people!!!!

this is you opinion but who pay for this show had another opinion
i think now here there is a little battle for paying or not paying
there are people paying and people not pay...where is the problem?

I saw that those who have paid for the show is very happy........

logic wrote:

skyfree wrote:There is a very simple system to stop the cheating of ETV: stop give them money. Stop pay "premium show". Stop pay absurd prices for gift for model (or cam-girl). They take the piss all people!!!!

So you don't want to watch ETV any longer?

Etv I knew no longer exists so now may even die. For this ETV not pay a single penny

skyfree wrote:There is a very simple system to stop the cheating of ETV: stop give them money. Stop pay "premium show". Stop pay absurd prices for gift for model (or cam-girl). They take the piss all people!!!!

this is you opinion but who pay for this show had another opinion
i think now here there is a little battle for paying or not paying
there are people paying and people not pay...where is the problem?

skyfree wrote:There is a very simple system to stop the cheating of ETV: stop give them money. Stop pay "premium show". Stop pay absurd prices for gift for model (or cam-girl). They take the piss all people!!!!

So you don't want to watch ETV any longer?

aceman65 wrote:Surprise, surprise. I actually did get a response.

"Hi Aceman65,

When you buy credits for the website, you do not pay for the web shows- you buy credits.
These credits can be used for various purposes- downloading photos, calling in the studio, watch multi-cam, sending messages, etc. They do not pay for the web shows.

Sending messages pays for the web shows. We do not dictate when to send the messages, it is up to you.

The free web shows will remain and whoever choices can watch the paid private bits. The majority of the customers understood the reasoning behind this decision and they greeted it. If you do not wish to watch the paid parts, you do not
have to. Again, this is up to you.

Best Regards,
Ilia"

Huh!!!!

Kind of contradicts himself there. If the credits we buy don't pay for the exclusive show. But the messages that we send using those credits do. Who write's this material for him? Does he honestly think that anyone with half a brain was going to swallow that load of bull.

I could have given you the same answer, because it's exactly their policy. I self need years to accept it, but finally I understood that ETV is a business and want to make money, I can't blame them for this. For sure are there still things to complain, but not about this.

For all people with "a long line" : If you pay for a membership you buy credits. It's like changing your money into ETV money. The models will get some of your money first when you use your credits for calls or messages or premium shows! I hope everybody has understood it now.
A small tip: To send insulting messages or complains to the models brings them money too, but destroy their mood and the show! If you don't like what a model is doing, simply switch off! Thx!

I admit I am not surprised about what has happened. I have warned you about this since more than a year, when ETVGold began.
Since that moment, they misappropriate assets from basic to pay, starting from TV Guide. Now they misappropriate from pay to premium. Maybe soon there will be a superpremium. They are now feeling ground falling under their feet.
Some old fellow member reminded about "Georg method".
No hope at all.

What's the name of these cheap, american supermarkets?


Cash & Carry

It is true that ETV is a grain of sand in the desert, between all the web pages, but he enjoys a big advantage:
the models.
They are models that we know throughout the years or, if they are new, we know them for the shows of TV.
I think that ETV plays with advantage in this game, and he makes use of this advantage.

aceman65 wrote:"Hi Aceman65,
.......................
The free web shows will remain and whoever choices can watch the paid private bits. The majority of the customers understood the reasoning behind this decision and they greeted it. If you do not wish to watch the paid parts, you do not have to. Again, this is up to you.
Best Regards,
Ilia"

"The free web shows will remain...."

What a lie!! If 50% of the ELS suddenly mutates to a paid premium show, then........
only 50% remains for free, that's plain mathematics.

What a bunch of liars.