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finally! well said, Smiler, Sir

however, I still need to disagree on some points, as I personally do not like the internet shows as long as there are the girls employed doing as well as the 'normal' TV shows.
as you said they are normal girls and not models to be exploited in any kind of cheap internet presentation for the peeping tom.

In my opinion the internet may work, once they employ a different kind of girl there, say another league, for those who are demanding more and are willing to through some tokens ... errhh ... credits on them for their desire and/or demands.

Putting the present available girls there may even lead to a loss of regular customers not willing to support their favorite anymore after she has taken this step. Believe many viewers have built an affection to their favorite and certainly are not happy to see her in a closed box showing off to an audience interested only in one thing and not the girl herself.

Unfortunately to me the internet shows have a cheap taste, and the girls are loosing in pride and foremost in dignity as downgrading themselves to an object.

clear, it is all about erotic but this is on a slide downwards to the more explicit or pornographic. If you ask me there is still enough erotic in the normal TV shows.

in essence, this may work if:
a) the girls from the internet shows, doing the normal shows, are being pulled to avoid the risk of loosing the regular customer
b) add girls to the staff doing only internet shows, for those who are obviously willing to invest some credits to get to see more.

well, I know am biaised to a certain extent, and above is no offense, but sharing my opinion and thoughts.

slow

Smiler wrote:OK you guys. You've made your point. There is a small ' band of brothers' out there that aren't happy with ETV. And they are voicing their dislike on this forum and they are beginning to sound like a bunch of old ladies.
ETV (FTA) is a good program. They have nice models and it is free. If it is not presented the way you would like to see it, then bad luck. Watch another channel. But you know you won't find anything that comes close to it for entertainment.
The ETVshow.com has had a few problems and they have accepted that and I think it will get better in time. It is a business and of course they are out to make money. So for a few credits you can see the girls you like best in a more private show. Some of the exclusive shows have been great. And I agree, some not so good. I don't need to mention the models names but they are ordinary women doing what I would think is a hard and demanding job. Stop insulting them. If you want more spice in your viewing, then go and visit the cam sites. It will cost you a lot more.
But whatever, stop all this petty banter you have been putting out. We are tired of hearing it.

Smiler

I could answer you in ETVShow (and his hardest fanboys, I don't know what group are you from, sure one between them, same pre-printed cards answers) way, "if you don't like some comments, simply please don't read it".
I am tired the same as you about hearing fanboys, but I am more tolerant.
BTW, sorry to disappoint you, but I'm going to countinue, of course respecting the rules of the site.
And you are insulting people who think differently than you in the same way as people you have blamed.

P.S. You say "we"? Could you please explain who you are representing?

Smiler wrote:OK you guys. You've made your point. There is a small ' band of brothers' out there that aren't happy with ETV. And they are voicing their dislike on this forum and they are beginning to sound like a bunch of old ladies.
ETV (FTA) is a good program. They have nice models and it is free. If it is not presented the way you would like to see it, then bad luck. Watch another channel. But you know you won't find anything that comes close to it for entertainment.
The ETVshow.com has had a few problems and they have accepted that and I think it will get better in time. It is a business and of course they are out to make money. So for a few credits you can see the girls you like best in a more private show. Some of the exclusive shows have been great. And I agree, some not so good. I don't need to mention the models names but they are ordinary women doing what I would think is a hard and demanding job. Stop insulting them. If you want more spice in your viewing, then go and visit the cam sites. It will cost you a lot more.
But whatever, stop all this petty banter you have been putting out. We are tired of hearing it.

Smiler

Really,

i know some camsites they don´t cost a credit and you get what you want but it is okay if you think so.

It is strange that you applaud ETV, that we should pay 1 credit for an complain on the wall. Your text is the same as our messages only in the other way.

Have a nice day.

brudgon wrote:gia at 19:00
i wish to all gold members a special gia show

... and for the remaining majority: have a nice olympic evening

OK you guys. You've made your point. There is a small ' band of brothers' out there that aren't happy with ETV. And they are voicing their dislike on this forum and they are beginning to sound like a bunch of old ladies.
ETV (FTA) is a good program. They have nice models and it is free. If it is not presented the way you would like to see it, then bad luck. Watch another channel. But you know you won't find anything that comes close to it for entertainment.
The ETVshow.com has had a few problems and they have accepted that and I think it will get better in time. It is a business and of course they are out to make money. So for a few credits you can see the girls you like best in a more private show. Some of the exclusive shows have been great. And I agree, some not so good. I don't need to mention the models names but they are ordinary women doing what I would think is a hard and demanding job. Stop insulting them. If you want more spice in your viewing, then go and visit the cam sites. It will cost you a lot more.
But whatever, stop all this petty banter you have been putting out. We are tired of hearing it.

Smiler

outside wrote:I was told she handled a cucumber, but only to eat it. Maybe in "premium hours"...............

I was told she handled a cucumber, but only to eat it. Maybe in "premium hours"...............

mic1205 wrote:Now the time for experiments is over

and we must push the (premium)button every day in every show

have a nice weekend with or without ETV - ELS - Premium Shows

No, I don't think.

They are still experimenting with us, this is just the latest step.

By the way, how was Nancy's show Friday night - I didn't see it.

More than opinion about "hot topics" of the moment, the synthesis of my personal experience.
Since 2009 i'm a customer, but i rather spend my money for a direct contact with my favourite models. Not sms, just calls, with a sparse but steady frequency.
The concept of the business was clear: the freedom to look for free and consequent - infinite - catchment area. More viewers, more potential customers.
Clearly something went wrong in this setting, i opine mainly because of censorship rules and rising costs.
At that point, rather than focus on entertainment encrypted (with a reasonable monthly fee), the management have been tried many other ways, some absurd, wich is not worth mentioning analytically.
A first turning point came with the introduction of "gold member status", a second with the development of web shows (first ELS, now Premium). The two things, i mean, are in irreconciliable conflict. It has lost its original setting of erotic call center and the focus is, now, on show fee.
I reluctantly agreed to pay a reasonable - una tantum - fee for the access of ELS, the first ones i really enjoyed. Now they ask me to change my size of customer, to spend my few money to simply watch and not even to talk. I'm not sure to be ready for that.
Fee web shows will kill soon FTA shows (its' already happening).
A new world is rising, with less "next door girls" and more professional web artists. The models will change their attitude, too, because after some months customers will ask for more (and they will have the right to ask that, because of high level costs).
I don't want to judge if this new landscape will be better or worse than before. Certainly something different than i'm used too and something different from my taste.

Only a one-liner

Now our "students" got their BULL (shit) , they smell the money .

Greetings

@mic1205

Your opinion is very right.

I would just add, the idea of spending just only 2 credits to have all messages for free is realy not the greatest from ETV how to make the money income increased. The real consequence will be exactly the opposite.
So, to prevent this situation, I expect the price for the premium show time will be rapidly increased very soon or the possibility of sending free messages in the premium shows will be completely removed.

In any case, both solutions will lead to another complains of the unhappy viewers and to another reduction of the money income at the end.

i think having more hot Els could be very easy for Etv.

simply, they could ask this type of show to the model yet did it some years ago.
Kia, Tia, Aalyah, Aria... them all yet showed more and more on fta tv, i dont think now they become shy girls.

in addiction i think some of "new" girls would have no problems to act more hot (Angelina obviously, Nancy, Amy...).
is instead right for me don't ask it to the model you know for sure they are refusing

gia at 19:00
i wish to all gold members a special gia show

I always hope the internet shows where a possibility to reach the quality shows had in 2006 and the beginning of 2007 but this is not the case.
Maybe because they dont want maybe because the girls think it's porn then I can't say. But at the moment these shows are not better sometimes even worse then the shows on TV and I dont think they will get any better in the way I want them. but as always this is of course only my opinion.
ETV wants to go in another direction more artistic direction but I can't see that the majority of the viewers is interested. this is not depending on the money they want for the shows. If the shows were good I would pay for a premium show but most of them are not as I realized soon.

Two things about the new concept of the webshows next week:

1. for all the viewers who send more than 2 SMS in each ELS show
are the new rules a great idea.
You pay 2 credits for the premium show
and now you can send more than hundred SMS with wishes or complain or what
ever you want for free !

2. for the girls in the show are the rules not so good because now nobody will
send SMS with wishes in the ELS show, since the girls must always say:

" No i can do this only in the premium show "

not long time and nobody send SMS in the ELS show and the girls sitting
bored and alone in the studio because everyone looks only the premium show
ore say goodbye to ETV and her business

only my opinion