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imaginator55 wrote:

Halo1819 wrote:From the website

The Last Exclusive Wish for Free | Friday 04 December - 23:00 CET
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Soma will say that we have to change the models with ones that are not tired from this “game”. Sounds easy, right? The fact is that not many models want to participate in this show because they know what is expected from them and they don't like it. A model like Gabrielle said that she doesn't think she is up to the task. And she is among our “hottest” and boldest models. ....

Absolute bullshit, this statement about Gabrielle. I just saw her today (she is on another site using a different name; I guess I am not supposed to reveal details about that in this forum). Anyway, she stripped completely naked and did some poses which I have never seen from any girl in any ETV show - probably the ETV crew would have fainted seeing her do this.

Typical ETV one Step Forward too steps back and this lying about Gabrielle is a shame. One should not believe any word they say.
No more Money for this bullshit. Even if they reduce the Price to a quarter the Quality never get better again never reaching the Level they had in 2006.

well my wall posts haven't appeared but I have messaged them a few words, which will remain between me and them, but I see a bit of a refresh on the wall, quite a few new posts about the FFW show and not all letting ETV of the hook.
so maybe ETV have listened to feedback? only time will tell, they are still on trial for me, they have had a stay of execution for now, but they are still borderline, and I'll watch to see how the new few shows go. have they listened to feedback about directing, angles, lighting, etc. Time will tell, watching the newbies show, so will soon have a good idea and can comment further.

Not impressed. maybe it was time to stop the show and do something new? that can be discussed more , but basically, to blame the customers is just daft and makes ETV look even worse, I'll be posting to the wall about it later, although it will probably be ignore by ETV unless I say they are wonderful, which at the moment, they certainly are not.

I can' t believe in a single word of that message, maybe was important that Wk did not buy next exclusive? or maybe others 100 did not buy next exclusive? Maybe they saw what crap was last friday and before losing every single viewer stopped it? Again girls used as shield and no admission of a failure? Again is viewers fault if they say that something good turned into very bad?
Few days ago they said on the wall "We carefully monitor viewers interest and it is clear for us that most of our viewers are interested in watching the exclusive shows and the artistic presentations of our models, It is obvious that our strategic path for development leads us towards creation of interesting shows".
Well in the last weeks goal was missed, and if they read our comments, thay can understand that they r not attack, but attempts to have a better show.
Who is talking till last week had Marla as favorite girl, so for sure i'm not a fundamentalist of the open legs view, but from an erotic channel i want see an erotic content.
This is not the truth, just my opinion

Halo1819 wrote:From the website

The Last Exclusive Wish for Free | Friday 04 December - 23:00 CET
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Soma will say that we have to change the models with ones that are not tired from this “game”. Sounds easy, right? The fact is that not many models want to participate in this show because they know what is expected from them and they don't like it. A model like Gabrielle said that she doesn't think she is up to the task. And she is among our “hottest” and boldest models. ....

Absolute bullshit, this statement about Gabrielle. I just saw her today (she is on another site using a different name; I guess I am not supposed to reveal details about that in this forum). Anyway, she stripped completely naked and did some poses which I have never seen from any girl in any ETV show - probably the ETV crew would have fainted seeing her do this.

TazDevil wrote:Prediction For Friday Wish For Free Show:

I fear the worst tonight, the signs are not looking good. We have one soft model in a bold show, one model borrowed from the TV show disrupting those viewers, cheaper exclusive show so Trolls can get in for less than a beer and if too many people buy the Black Friday discounted online show, the stream will fall over and the picture quality will be poor.

If only what happened on Friday could have been predicted!

28.11.2015:

Wilsonsand wrote:wish for free shows ruined & destroyed in 4,3,2,..:.

..and done!

instead of trying to recover the good shows they finally give up. Better stop than seing a sad decline of what once was a very good show. But before saying goodbye to this format, some lies and acusations to the viewers:
"After the last show, we realized that almost everything that the viewers expect and here here for is to see the girl's open legs in front of the camera or the next “oops” moment as you like to call it."
What we want is a bit of that eroticism you could be able to do in the first shows of this format, so celebrated and with all that praises and compliments... did you show "girl's open legs in front of the camera" then? no, i don´t think so. We were really happy with that shows without that, so don´t manipulate and infer fake conclusions to lie to us... it´s actually so hard to do something like that? it seems so. The truth is you want a lot more tamed shows and we don´t. This was the only show "safe" from directions of strict and static show, it was more natural, more agile, more fun, more crazy. But you don´t want to do such things, you want to do your crap-art in the dark.

"our director intervening as little as possible" yes, that´s why a ghost turned off the lights last friday and a it was absolutely accidental all the shows were tamed and the camerawork was like controled by a nun.

Second: Fairy "got scared from you!" the fault is yours, ETV, we have said many times you should never post comments against the models, and there was several suggestions about it, but you did nothing about it because you never protect your models.. Don´t be so hypocrite, you decide what shows are made, the way they are made and if the messages are shown or not, it´s your fault.

After a long text, not even a single admission of a little hint of mistake from them, all is viewer´s fault. As always. We are really frightening: Fairy has still nightmares about us.

Needless to argue that the show would read the LS-tv forum. (Etvshow-team)

From the website

The Last Exclusive Wish for Free | Friday 04 December - 23:00 CET



Dear friends, Each thematic show, including Exclusive Wish for Free, has its own lifespan. It is reasonable to cancel it before it is totally worn out and has lost all its fans. We created this format so it can appeal to as wider audience as possible. The goal was the viewers to feel that everything is made especially for them and their requests. This is why we had our director intervening as little as possible. The models accepted that they will do whatever the viewers wanted them to do and not what they preferred to perform. We were able to maintain the mood and will for fun during the show, even though this project wasn't amongst our favourite. The reason is that what we like and what inspire us is not always in unison with what viewers want to see. What we didn't expect is how drastic, even brutal is the difference between our searches and what is expected from us during this show.

After the last show, we realized that almost everything that the viewers expect and here here for is to see the girl's open legs in front of the camera or the next “oops” moment as you like to call it. Is this what we call “teasing”? In the beginning it was fun. It was like a game where models and viewers tried to trick each other and get more and more creative on the road to the next “oops” moment. As time passed we got weary of this “game” and the models started to perceive this show as the one where the whole team and the viewers are spending all their energy and creativity just to show some pu**y.

Soma will say that we have to change the models with ones that are not tired from this “game”. Sounds easy, right? The fact is that not many models want to participate in this show because they know what is expected from them and they don't like it. A model like Gabrielle said that she doesn't think she is up to the task. And she is among our “hottest” and boldest models. We tried to put new girls in the show like Fairy, but we had to replace her with the regularly participating Kia, because she wasn't ready and a lot of the viewers protested against her presence. And she just wasn't fully ready for such an aggressive approach towards her nudity, even though she did go fully nude. She got scared from you! After that everybody commented how great it was that fairy left and her place was taken by Kia. Similar thing happened with Kelly. We tried to balance things by getting Destiny to participate and she had nothing against it, but said she couldn't do full 4 hours, because she felt she will not be able to live up to your expectations. She was right! We got curses and other offensive and ugly messages on the chat.

So, little by little the game “let me take a peek under your skirt” stooped being fun and became too aggressive for our taste. We had our fun moments, but now it is not fun anymore – for us and for the viewers. This means that it is time to move on and look for another thing that excites us and is fun to make. The ideal game should not involve insults if some of the models decides not to show her pu**y. Of course some will say that they have the right to protest when they see cake sold in the butchers shop, but they forget that we never said we are butchers.

So, this Friday will be the last Exclusive Wish for Free show. After that, we will think of and make something new and we hope that we will still be together in the future and with less differences in the expectations towards one another. Regards, ETV Team

After exclusive wish for free disater i watched model showdown and for some reason the shows became to tame for my taste.
I have crs for one more wish for free and then if nothing changes im off. To bad, Jasmine is big potential for amazing shows but camerman and director sucks big time.

Wilsonsand wrote:if people complain is not because they are haters, it´s because people want good shows and people know they can do good shows. The problem is ETV has no hint of self-criticism and is not able to do what they should: sitting the director and the models to watch the show and see what was wrong to do it better next time, they should read customers comments and get conclusions of them in order to improve, make better shows and getting more income. It would be great and it would talk very good about them. But they will never do, because when a show gets critics is not because there is a bad show, or they are wrong with the direction or the camera work, but customers fault, or models fault, never the director and team.

They should watch how infamously they made the Karl "Saiqa licking the nipples of Kelly" request, for example: with a deep darkness, and on screen only Kelly´s head. Impossible to wach what Saiqa was doing below, she could be licking Kelly´s nipples as she could be painting her fingernails, who knows. If you are not willing to do such requests, don´t chose them and chose any other, and if you chose it, then make something decent, like a closer shot of Kelly´s nippples, and Saiqa mouth close to them, or Saiqa touching Kelly´s nipples with her fingers, but not a head in the dark... but Eli knows about eroticism the same i know about quantum physics, so impossible to expect such erotic creativity. After that an "Oil dripping show", Jasmine involved in a deep dark and shadows. Terrible. Unfortunately the girls took the critics in a personal way, people was not complaining about Jasmine, but about the idiot who decided to turn off the lights. After that 2 disasters, they decided not to make more experiments in the dark, but the damage was done, and the soft shots, the general shyness and a complete lack of erotic highlights condemned the show to failure.

In the last times there has been a loss not only in models, but also in quality in the shows. Not enough lighting very often, no hand camera anymore, staticism, gauzy veils filters on screen, overlapping annoying planes and boring soft shows.Well, this evening Jasmine was requested to do a basic instinct show on a chair while oiled. Jasmine accepted, so zestful as she usually is, joking wiht something like " a basic instinct on a chair? where else? haha, ok!" The show was not that, there was oil, but there was no chair and there was no basic instinct. Jasmine face was really serious during the show, without any smile. I don´t know if basic instinct shows are now not allowed anymore but it´s a pity a simple show like that is so hard for them to do.

Well said!
We have often argued on here, and on occasions agreed, and sometimes agreed to disagree But your words above are pretty much spot on and probably speak for many, myself included. I just wish ETV would pull their head out of their arse and read the above and take it on board.

if people complain is not because they are haters, it´s because people want good shows and people know they can do good shows. The problem is ETV has no hint of self-criticism and is not able to do what they should: sitting the director and the models to watch the show and see what was wrong to do it better next time, they should read customers comments and get conclusions of them in order to improve, make better shows and getting more income. It would be great and it would talk very good about them. But they will never do, because when a show gets critics is not because there is a bad show, or they are wrong with the direction or the camera work, but customers fault, or models fault, never the director and team.

They should watch how infamously they made the Karl "Saiqa licking the nipples of Kelly" request, for example: with a deep darkness, and on screen only Kelly´s head. Impossible to wach what Saiqa was doing below, she could be licking Kelly´s nipples as she could be painting her fingernails, who knows. If you are not willing to do such requests, don´t chose them and chose any other, and if you chose it, then make something decent, like a closer shot of Kelly´s nippples, and Saiqa mouth close to them, or Saiqa touching Kelly´s nipples with her fingers, but not a head in the dark... but Eli knows about eroticism the same i know about quantum physics, so impossible to expect such erotic creativity. After that an "Oil dripping show", Jasmine involved in a deep dark and shadows. Terrible. Unfortunately the girls took the critics in a personal way, people was not complaining about Jasmine, but about the idiot who decided to turn off the lights. After that 2 disasters, they decided not to make more experiments in the dark, but the damage was done, and the soft shots, the general shyness and a complete lack of erotic highlights condemned the show to failure.

In the last times there has been a loss not only in models, but also in quality in the shows. Not enough lighting very often, no hand camera anymore, staticism, gauzy veils filters on screen, overlapping annoying planes and boring soft shows.Well, this evening Jasmine was requested to do a basic instinct show on a chair while oiled. Jasmine accepted, so zestful as she usually is, joking wiht something like " a basic instinct on a chair? where else? haha, ok!" The show was not that, there was oil, but there was no chair and there was no basic instinct. Jasmine face was really serious during the show, without any smile. I don´t know if basic instinct shows are now not allowed anymore but it´s a pity a simple show like that is so hard for them to do.

kennyboy2012 wrote:

TazDevil wrote:I understand from the PMs I have had with some forum members that regular Exclusive Show watchers may boycott the paid for shows this week, not because of the poor show on Friday, but because of the way ETV handled the responses to their feedback and in some peoples minds misleading posts on the Wall. For anyone who likes a Sunday night Exclusive show Directed by Elie, it is the return of the "The Diary of X" this week.

I'll be giving tonight a miss, partly because I'm well p***ed off with ETV's attitude, and partly because it will be Elie, who f****ed up Fridays show.
I don't know about the rest of the week, but at this moment in time, I may well give ETV a miss until after the next FFW show, pending a decent response from ETV.

It doesn't take much for them to post a few words on the wall. something along the lines of that they acknowledge a lot of unhappy viewers at least.

finally you are coming around to understand they don't care about you or any customers I told you this months ago they need new management

I think your mis of tonight is more heavy than 100 posts on the wall.
I also want clarify that i'm not happy if exclusives are bad, i'm sorry and i'm also more sorry about how they care about customer complaints, i think our complaints if well done are the best way to improve quality if followed

tonights exclusive show cost

3 credit/s / 2.0999999999999996 credit/s
Show will end approximately at 02:55 CET

well at least ETV is precise about the cost lol

and no, I'm not bothering tonight