Eurotic's website & webstream

Cleanboy wrote:...

What I would do as ETV-boss:

1. Get a website with proper intro's to what ETV is and aims for, with intro's to the models and what to expect from them.
2. Generate income by releasing the archive as it is, spend edit-time on compilations (f.e. of those short 5 min. videos) and promo's.
3. Work on web-visuality and draw new customers with accounts (with promo's) on the main erotic sites.
4. Hire a professional cameraman/editor for a week to give lessons to the technical crew (they've been making basic mistakes for years now).
5. Invest income to attract new attractive models and to be able to ask more of the old crew.
6. Make content with a wide variety of erotica, from one-on-one closeness to arty detached groupscenes, with wishes on demand and spontaneity, with variety in make up and clothing.
7. Get all excited again for this new beginning.

As it is, it's dead.

Basically good ideas,
but they failed in all these aspects in the past when they still had money, a satellite broadcast and a lot of girls
1. Between what they aim for is completely different from what the customers want (soft arty farty vs. hot rather explicit shows, director's pleasure vs. customer's pleasure, scripted shows vs. viewer interaction with the girls)
2. The video hall is a step in the right direction
But:
-Most of the old videos are missing
-No sorting/ filtering by girl (most viewers are fans of specific girls)
-No pictures from photo shows
-According to reports here hot scenes have been removed
3.This will also require delivering a reliable high quality of the shows.
4.I'd start with the directors. If the arrangement of the scenes, lighting, concept of the show and direction of the girls are bad the camera crew can't really save it.
5.Still one of their strongest assets. To me It rather seems to be necessary to fire some of the remaining crew than hiring new girls.
6.See 1.)
7.See 5.)


Regards
Joker

Cleanboy wrote:What I would do as ETV-boss:

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glamrocker wrote:

kennyboy2012 wrote:change could be:
1) changes to the levels
2) stop the silly attitude of certain models, who have started to think they are above mere nudity lol
3) decent camera work (it has been bloody good lately, in fairness)
4) better video quality (again, its been a lot better)
5) more 2 girl or themed shows, with hot interaction between the girls, or better engagement with the viewers, performing requests as they are requested, and not interpreted and watered down
6) more variety of girls
7) more live shows and less of the recordings of shows that were crap when they were live and so are still crap now
8) other changes that other viewers may think off

to be fair
3 and 4 have been delivered

the rest may follow, or may not, time will tell

oh well, , we'll keep an eye on the site for news of shows worth watching, and save money until then

Sadly kennyboy I think supporters now are just flogging a dead horse.
I still have some credits with them from a long time ago when they were worth buying to watch
selective exclusives as they called them.
I do agree that the camera work has improved and quality of the broadcast is probably better because
there isn't the demand on the servers now.
Certain promises that were made will never come to fruition the appeal to join them went with the TV broadcasts.
So it is not at all likely that we will see lots of new recruits I mean you can count on 1 hand the number joining yet
the number having left the place is substantially higher.
As for listening to customers suggestions do you really think that they would act on any,
given their track record so far I seriously doubt it.
Really I do hope they prove me wrong only time will tell as you said.

What I would do as ETV-boss:

1. Get a website with proper intro's to what ETV is and aims for, with intro's to the models and what to expect from them.
2. Generate income by releasing the archive as it is, spend edit-time on compilations (f.e. of those short 5 min. videos) and promo's.
3. Work on web-visuality and draw new customers with accounts (with promo's) on the main erotic sites.
4. Hire a professional cameraman/editor for a week to give lessons to the technical crew (they've been making basic mistakes for years now).
5. Invest income to attract new attractive models and to be able to ask more of the old crew.
6. Make content with a wide variety of erotica, from one-on-one closeness to arty detached groupscenes, with wishes on demand and spontaneity, with variety in make up and clothing.
7. Get all excited again for this new beginning.

As it is, it's dead.

kennyboy2012 wrote:change could be:
1) changes to the levels
2) stop the silly attitude of certain models, who have started to think they are above mere nudity lol
3) decent camera work (it has been bloody good lately, in fairness)
4) better video quality (again, its been a lot better)
5) more 2 girl or themed shows, with hot interaction between the girls, or better engagement with the viewers, performing requests as they are requested, and not interpreted and watered down
6) more variety of girls
7) more live shows and less of the recordings of shows that were crap when they were live and so are still crap now
8) other changes that other viewers may think off

to be fair
3 and 4 have been delivered

the rest may follow, or may not, time will tell

oh well, , we'll keep an eye on the site for news of shows worth watching, and save money until then

Sadly kennyboy I think supporters now are just flogging a dead horse.
I still have some credits with them from a long time ago when they were worth buying to watch
selective exclusives as they called them.
I do agree that the camera work has improved and quality of the broadcast is probably better because
there isn't the demand on the servers now.
Certain promises that were made will never come to fruition the appeal to join them went with the TV broadcasts.
So it is not at all likely that we will see lots of new recruits I mean you can count on 1 hand the number joining yet
the number having left the place is substantially higher.
As for listening to customers suggestions do you really think that they would act on any,
given their track record so far I seriously doubt it.
Really I do hope they prove me wrong only time will tell as you said.

andreaparma wrote:The boycott is useless...i do not watch, i do not pay but it is a choice, not a strategy....they lost a sat tv channel with more than 70 people working there as they went on with their stupid and arrogant attitude nowithstanding loosing customers and viewers everyday....now it's the same...a few people and small organization will not survive

in theory: a boycott is an agreement amongst a number of viewers to not attend shows for a period of time or until a change is made.
The problem with this, is that it relies on all involved to genuinely stick to it, and not to quietly attend, because there's no way to know

whereas, as we all get fed up of the dire output, and stop paying, not by agreements amongst ourselves, but because it is so bad, we cant be arsed any more, then it should drive change:

change could be:
1) changes to the levels
2) stop the silly attitude of certain models, who have started to think they are above mere nudity lol
3) decent camera work (it has been bloody good lately, in fairness)
4) better video quality (again, its been a lot better)
5) more 2 girl or themed shows, with hot interaction between the girls, or better engagement with the viewers, performing requests as they are requested, and not interpreted and watered down
6) more variety of girls
7) more live shows and less of the recordings of shows that were crap when they were live and so are still crap now
8) other changes that other viewers may think off

to be fair
3 and 4 have been delivered

the rest may follow, or may not, time will tell

as it stands, there are now live shows advertised, just old recorded material.

I suspect and hope that they are finishing off the studio and having a rethink about how to move forward.

It would do them no harm at all, to identify all viewers that have attended maybe 3-4 shows on the past 3-4 weeks, and ask for some feedback, offer some potential ideas and get some input from the customers.
pah, I cant see that happening, based on their approach to date,

oh well, , we'll keep an eye on the site for news of shows worth watching, and save money until then

The boycott is useless...i do not watch, i do not pay but it is a choice, not a strategy....they lost a sat tv channel with more than 70 people working there as they went on with their stupid and arrogant attitude nowithstanding loosing customers and viewers everyday....now it's the same...a few people and small organization will not survive

andreaparma wrote:I'm not prepared anymore to pay for boring solo models or old shows.....or they are able to organize interesting and hot live shows (something like bohemian nights or even hotter)...or they can go on with a few supporter happy to pay to see roshana talking on the sofa....me not, definitely

Boycot again?????????

Regards
Askar

andreaparma wrote:I'm not prepared anymore to pay for boring solo models or old shows.....or they are able to organize interesting and hot live shows (something like bohemian nights or even hotter)...or they can go on with a few supporter happy to pay to see roshana talking on the sofa....me not, definitely

Roshana is a good looking girl with a great body, but watching her just sitting there talking, no thanks. I watched her the other day, and all she did was lie there talking, and every so often, she would stand up and move around a bit naked, and then lie down again
it looked like she has no interest in doing anything except talking. Well she can do that clothed and for free,

If they want a Roshana show that's worth paying for, then it needs to be with her actually doing things, showing off her body, naked, and I'd like to say with some open leg, but I doubt that will ever happen.

these 'fest' shows are just dull, and all about talk. Nancy was the only girl that was actually doing wishes and requests, as has already been said.
I reckon Mikeila would have been worth watching as well

I'm not prepared anymore to pay for boring solo models or old shows.....or they are able to organize interesting and hot live shows (something like bohemian nights or even hotter)...or they can go on with a few supporter happy to pay to see roshana talking on the sofa....me not, definitely

I stoppped watching already from the moment etv stop the TV shows, but I read the comments almost every day on this forum .
What I read is every day the same its boring its bad the models are not good .
And than i ask myself why in gods name are those people watch those terrible shows .
My advise is, stop watching itt save you much money and annoyance.
Have a nice evening.

Askar

*sigh"

I think most of us can agree that we are not happy with how this once very interesting and exciting venture has gone down the drain.

Sadly, there appear to be enough "fans" supporting the way it has gone, as anything else would not make any sense. They must be making enough money to believe that what they are doing is right. Otherwise they really are financial morons. Artistic aspirations aside, their basic reason for doing what they do is to make money, isn't it? As far as I understand the system, you can only make money by offering something that people want. Ergo, they must be making money to continue pushing out such drivel, a lot of it recycled drivel

I went through their website page with the videos they offer and was amused by one title - "The Good Old Times". For me (apart from the INXTC days), those were the days when we had such talents as Allegra, Helena, Malena, Sabrina and even Kaleya. Later, slightly less provocative, but usually enjoyable were such girls as Gia, Scarlet and Kate - and I was always glad to see Brona (even though she was relatively tame) as she was one of the most beautiful girls they ever had. When I see such girls as Angelina and Joy representing the "good old times", I can only shake my head . . .

If they want to continue in the way they are, then good luck to them. They must have found an audience that appreciates what they're offering. It's certainly not something I am willing to part with my hard-earned cash for. What I would be willing to pay for is something to satisfy the other, raunchier and - dare I use the word "sexy" - end of the scale. Something I'm pretty sure many of us would be willing to pay for

We are witnessing the failure of a giant who have no more initiative and lacks of opportunity to act
which leads to business stagnation or even worse.
No live shows mean repeat of old days offering same things we already watched for 3 -4crs.
We will not tolerate this kind of behavior, fraud will not go unpunished.
JohnGuitar

Wilsonsand wrote:yesterday Etv was publicly rude with a viewer in Jasmine show. I admit the sms from the viewer was not very polite:

"what erotic day, mikeila not there, you have 2 drunken people only and in the night last show is roshana, the day is death!"

and etv put in the screen this:

"stupid message, isn't it" "actually asshole".

I don't understand why they don't refuse to public such messages which are so negative, not publishing them and not charging them. In the morning they didn't charge some sms asking for nudity from Isadora as she was not going to fulfill them. The ponit is why to post such messages?

Instead of being professional and making a good moderation job with the messages, they post it all, and after doing it they don't charge it or they get angry and ruining the mood of the model.

The shows are not good but very few exceptions. Almost all are boring, static and soft. They have almost no calls on skype and when there are, there are no discussions about the show,s, but mostly fanboys callings. One example: Etv should think what a non german speaker can do with a show of Roshana doing nothing lying on the bed but talking with a caller in german.Etv wants to make everyshow a tutti frutti: a cam show, some kind of reserved show, a public callings show, fulfilling requests and this huge mix doesn't work. Maybe this is the reason why still there is no show scheduled for this week.

With Roshana's show, the end of the day was actually deadly. More annoying you die.
They thought revolutionizing shows with skype,Unfortunately, this is one more failure. However their arrogance is always at the top.

yesterday Etv was publicly rude with a viewer in Jasmine show. I admit the sms from the viewer was not very polite:

"what erotic day, mikeila not there, you have 2 drunken people only and in the night last show is roshana, the day is death!"

and etv put in the screen this:

"stupid message, isn't it" "actually asshole".

I don't understand why they don't refuse to public such messages which are so negative, not publishing them and not charging them. In the morning they didn't charge some sms asking for nudity from Isadora as she was not going to fulfill them. The ponit is why to post such messages?

Instead of being professional and making a good moderation job with the messages, they post it all, and after doing it they don't charge it or they get angry and ruining the mood of the model.

The shows are not good but very few exceptions. Almost all are boring, static and soft. They have almost no calls on skype and when there are, there are no discussions about the show,s, but mostly fanboys callings. One example: Etv should think what a non german speaker can do with a show of Roshana doing nothing lying on the bed but talking with a caller in german.Etv wants to make everyshow a tutti frutti: a cam show, some kind of reserved show, a public callings show, fulfilling requests and this huge mix doesn't work. Maybe this is the reason why still there is no show scheduled for this week.

space6969 wrote:LIVE STAGE ETV SHOW | MODELS FEST | 17:00 - 19:00 CET

Nancy is coming this evening

Due to the big viewer's excitement after her yesterday's evening show, we decided to ask her for another show today.


So Nancy's show was a huge success compared to the other ones.
How come?

I've watched most of the Models Fest "shows" and except Nancy, all other models thought it would be a good
"show" idea to sit there and talk to some fanboys 90% of the time, always cover their private parts and keep
their legs closed all of the time.
These "shows" had no energy, they just caused vicarious embarrassment.

Now hopefully Nancy made everyone realize that these talk shows for fans won't attract any new customers and that
this concept just doesn't work.
If they haven't learned anything out of this, this will be the end.

Because of their own stupidity they are now not in the position to demand anything from or fire the models who don't deliver.

Nancy made a very good show, because it was a wishes-show, no conversation. We know how Nancy put a lot of care in this work despite an amateurisch direction.