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This TazDevil is refusing to be tamed, which Exclusive shows (morning, day, evening or night) posted in the video section in the past 7 days should I watch to see a Hot show please? I am bored with the taming of the TazDevil!

Wilsonsand wrote:overdirected show? pre-written replies to the messages in different papers the model chose? smoking? camera work too far? Can it be more calculated, less spontanous, less provocative, less wild, less hot??

You can add the cold crap 4hours sunday show to the monday arty pre-censored with post-production plus the thursday close encounter false hot interaction with horrible camera work shows, plus the friday moon dark ultrasoft show (at least they can´t include Kristal anymore to make her invisible again) and pre-recorded performances in video show at night!

very "exiting"!!!

what remains to the ETV erotic-suicide?

I can see you're not impressed then

must admit, the close encounters had potential, but its been no good, the friday dimlit show I have messaged ETV to point out that if we cant see the girls, then whats the point
I wont judge the new Monday and Friday shows until I've seen them,

So we can see VULGAR, HARMFUL and ILLEGAL smoking, but we can't see BEAUTIFUL, HARMLESS and LEGAL online pussy! I give up!

overdirected show? pre-written replies to the messages in different papers the model chose? smoking? camera work too far? Can it be more calculated, less spontanous, less provocative, less wild, less hot??

You can add the cold crap 4hours sunday show to the monday arty pre-censored with post-production plus the thursday close encounter false hot interaction with horrible camera work shows, plus the friday moon dark ultrasoft show (at least they can´t include Kristal anymore to make her invisible again) and pre-recorded performances in video show at night!

very "exiting"!!!

what remains to the ETV erotic-suicide?

kennyboy2012 wrote:totally agree, ETV should not have accepted that request, and she should not have done it.

I've just logged out, cant stand smoking.

I've just posted this to the ETV wall

To smoke or not to smoke
Controversial subject this one. If a request comes in for a girl to smoke, should she?
My answer is simple, no, I hate it and seeing a girl smoke is an instant turn off. Its now accepted that its damages your health so asking to see a girl smoke is just wrong, and should be ignored.
I was watching Leona tonight and it was quite good, until she pulled out a cigarette and lit up, for someone's request.
Sorry Leona, but that was the end of the show for me. Good night.

The only controversy is whether they want to remain within the law or not. Aside from my absolutely extreme dislike of smoking and it's well known detrimental health effects, it is illegal to smoke at your place of work in Bulgaria and has been for several years. You probably weren't around the forum a couple years ago when it was more commonly ruining shows for me and others and are unaware that it became somewhat of an issue for me. So sad and disappointing to see it return. There will be the usual 'art imitating life, imitating art' bullshit excuses again and the 'we must fulfill all requests' excuse (except those asking for something explicit of course, they are unfailingly arbitrary with rule enforcement at ETV ) but none of them circumvent the law. The models are employees, they are paid by ETV to be there and the bosses have a duty of care towards them whilst they are at their place of work to ensure no laws are being broken.

Dreamlander

totally agree, ETV should not have accepted that request, and she should not have done it.

I've just logged out, cant stand smoking.

I've just posted this to the ETV wall

To smoke or not to smoke
Controversial subject this one. If a request comes in for a girl to smoke, should she?
My answer is simple, no, I hate it and seeing a girl smoke is an instant turn off. Its now accepted that its damages your health so asking to see a girl smoke is just wrong, and should be ignored.
I was watching Leona tonight and it was quite good, until she pulled out a cigarette and lit up, for someone's request.
Sorry Leona, but that was the end of the show for me. Good night.

And there's a smoking request...being fulfilled in Leona's Exclusive.

Goodbye eroticism...hello lung cancer!

Utterly disgusting...and still illegal in their country.

I hope the guy is getting suitably turned on seeing an otherwise healthy young woman shortening her life.

Dreamlander

TazDevil wrote:I am not normally slow to understand things, but I am struggling to understand something! I fully understand the need to comply with TV broadcasting restrictions in the territories the free to air ETV TV show is available in, and how this needs to adapt as the regulations change. It therefore goes without saying that the TV show has to be as tame as the strictest controls for all the areas receiving the free to air service. Obviously some areas will allow more on pay per view TV, which offers additional income, but even these channels can be quite restrictive when it comes to nudity.

But I do not understand why the Online only shows are currently being subjected to stricter controls. It can not be the content alone because there are plenty of hot and bold scenes in the past shows published in the video section. So can someone enlighten me on why the Online shows have become so tame please? It doesn't make sense to me! What is the business strategy here? or the unique selling point? I simply do not get it! It is well known that you offer freebies and giveaways to promote your basic product (free TV), to encourage customers to pay for the full product (paid exclusives/premiums). I frequently see more nudity and hot scenes on the free TV show than on the paid exclusives and last week the handful of shows I did watch online were so tame, there was almost no differences from the basic TV offering, other than the length of time you saw darkly lit nudity. It can not be cost cutting, because the web is full of sites with paid online shows, in which just the models or their partners control the camera/lighting/make-up/etc. and these are normally very hot HD quality shows!

Now we read, next weeks Exclusives are being filmed in such a way to ensure the Monday show can be censored before showing the feed from certain angles, and the Friday show is pre-recorded, presumably to ensure the content meets new restrictions.

Can someone please explain why the Online shows are now so tame?

The only reason I can think of is that they are building a library and now concentrating on making that library to the lowest common standard, that's acceptable to all.

the problem is, its all very well having this approach, if this is the case, but then if no one buys the product, then you've lost your operating costs, and youre dead on the water. I've seen the comments, both today, and also on the past, about how ETV likes to create art etc, but you still need to produce what sells, to make the money to allow you to engage in your passion.

I just don't know what is going on with ETV. I sometimes suspect that it goes on a cycle. tame and slowly getting stronger, up to the point that they are allowed, and then dropping back to tame again, accept the criticism, and then slowly start getting stronger again, and all on a cycle.
We will always want more, ist what we humans do, we are never fully happy if we think there's more possible. so the only way to satisfy this craving for more, is to slowly give it, and everyone so often, it tames down and starts again.

that's just one possibility. I don't know, its just a thought, but then, no one knows for sure I just like ETV a lot, it ticks most of my boxes, and yes, I do get frustrated with the tame periods and the bizarre ideas that they have, but hey, we still watch it, (even a few who protest that they don't but still seem to know too much not to have watched )

GeorgeSK wrote:Here is a statement, which was a part of an answer on the ETV wall today:

"We do not consider ourselves as just an “erotic” media which undresses women showing their naked bodies but we prefer to consider ourselves as artists seeking deeper respect of our work and progress, whether or not you share our point of view."

So in short, "we do art and if you don't like it, fuck off". Which is what an increasingly high number of people do.

Edit: Even some of the biggest artists, like composers or painters, had to do commercial work for hire to survive and pay the bills, unless they had a millionaire sponsor. Unless ETV has such a sponsor I can't see how can they survive purely on producing their kind of "art".

Edit 2: Oh wow, the statement is now gone, deleted.

Politicians often say: "Who cares, what I said yesterday?"
ETV says: "Who cares, what I said 10 minutes before?"

Well, as they said: "We are artists seeking for deeper respect of our work....."
The real name of their art is: "Making more money out of less work and more fun"!

GeorgeSK wrote:Here is a statement, which was a part of an answer on the ETV wall today:

"We do not consider ourselves as just an “erotic” media which undresses women showing their naked bodies but we prefer to consider ourselves as artists seeking deeper respect of our work and progress, whether or not you share our point of view."

So in short, "we do art and if you don't like it, fuck off". Which is what an increasingly high number of people do.

Edit: Even some of the biggest artists, like composers or painters, had to do commercial work for hire to survive and pay the bills, unless they had a millionaire sponsor. Unless ETV has such a sponsor I can't see how can they survive purely on producing their kind of "art".

Edit 2: Oh wow, the statement is now gone, deleted.

That's one of the things about ETV's wall. whoever the moderators are, some of them type before thinking, and I suspect that another moderator saw the post, shook their head, sighed, and deleted the post.
we all sometimes speak or post in the heat of the moment, no one can honestly say they haven't, and we then think afterwards, that maybe we should have worded it differently, we are all human, and as they say, 'To err, is human'

I suspect this is just one such occasion. Its OK, we've all done it

Etv is like the bible what you can not rationally try to get the hang of light heart,
but in terms of etv seems to be impossible to realize any common sense, at least not
how they operate, the line is constantly changing, every night or exclusive is different, it is what unites their badness.

I am not normally slow to understand things, but I am struggling to understand something! I fully understand the need to comply with TV broadcasting restrictions in the territories the free to air ETV TV show is available in, and how this needs to adapt as the regulations change. It therefore goes without saying that the TV show has to be as tame as the strictest controls for all the areas receiving the free to air service. Obviously some areas will allow more on pay per view TV, which offers additional income, but even these channels can be quite restrictive when it comes to nudity.

But I do not understand why the Online only shows are currently being subjected to stricter controls. It can not be the content alone because there are plenty of hot and bold scenes in the past shows published in the video section. So can someone enlighten me on why the Online shows have become so tame please? It doesn't make sense to me! What is the business strategy here? or the unique selling point? I simply do not get it! It is well known that you offer freebies and giveaways to promote your basic product (free TV), to encourage customers to pay for the full product (paid exclusives/premiums). I frequently see more nudity and hot scenes on the free TV show than on the paid exclusives and last week the handful of shows I did watch online were so tame, there was almost no differences from the basic TV offering, other than the length of time you saw darkly lit nudity. It can not be cost cutting, because the web is full of sites with paid online shows, in which just the models or their partners control the camera/lighting/make-up/etc. and these are normally very hot HD quality shows!

Now we read, next weeks Exclusives are being filmed in such a way to ensure the Monday show can be censored before showing the feed from certain angles, and the Friday show is pre-recorded, presumably to ensure the content meets new restrictions.

Can someone please explain why the Online shows are now so tame?

Here is a statement, which was a part of an answer on the ETV wall today:

"We do not consider ourselves as just an “erotic” media which undresses women showing their naked bodies but we prefer to consider ourselves as artists seeking deeper respect of our work and progress, whether or not you share our point of view."

So in short, "we do art and if you don't like it, fuck off". Which is what an increasingly high number of people do.

Edit: Even some of the biggest artists, like composers or painters, had to do commercial work for hire to survive and pay the bills, unless they had a millionaire sponsor. Unless ETV has such a sponsor I can't see how can they survive purely on producing their kind of "art".

Edit 2: Oh wow, the statement is now gone, deleted.

For Us as in Turkey as in Kenya,is the same as the rest in the world,if you want sell erotic you have to show naked girls doing erotic stuff, even in the Us they don't like extreme censorship, dark places, lies, and so on.
In Us u can't broadcast on free tv a Ns, and the only way is a paytv, so who will pay for more than 1 day a Ns like the last days, who will pay for web contents like last weeks?

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