Last night's show

Honestly i would like to know what changed after 90 minutes from the beginning. We could see 2 different Gias in the same show. The first one was full dressed, boring, and the second one was active until the end, playing with her tits... why? i don´t think this radical change it´s a personal decission, honestly... did she receive order to change? it was a strategy from the direction? they are playing with fire, because if they throw away nearly two hours of the show with several of their stars out of the show, they are leading the way to bed for those who are tired of waiting a good show and find boredom and a bad show. After 2 hours when they are sleeping, they can´t send sms or call to the models, a wrong strategy. They are making a sieve losing viewers stupidly.

I liked the spectacle of yesterday night.
Gia had difficulties to enter the show but when she did it, supported my interest until the end.
Also Julia's direction, it was better than other nights.

WILSONSAND wrote:A very boring show in the beginning, but it was improving as the times was passing by. The first 90 minutes of Miss Gia were not good, as if she was in the wrong shift, but after that, Gia did a very good show. A pity no shower, or too much handbra, or not removing that red dress, but there were a lot of good moments, it was like someone pushed the "play" bottom to her and she began to do a very talented job with her unique sign. Or someone ordered her "Gia, let´s go". Whatever it was, she did a very good show at the end, and i am very happy to say it.

I liked Suzy (she keeps improving) and Isabella (very well done job), in my opinion Angelina, Michelle and Nancy were less brilliant than other nights.

All models got a good innings, really liked the Nancy cose up shot at start of show. Gia did what Gia does best.
Very good show indeed, perhaps someone is learning something.
A spell of mobile camera and a zoom where it is obvious to zoom would have made it perfect for me.
I am loading my mobile up with credit for next week !

A very boring show in the beginning, but it was improving as the times was passing by. The first 90 minutes of Miss Gia were not good, as if she was in the wrong shift, but after that, Gia did a very good show. A pity no shower, or too much handbra, or not removing that red dress, but there were a lot of good moments, it was like someone pushed the "play" bottom to her and she began to do a very talented job with her unique sign. Or someone ordered her "Gia, let´s go". Whatever it was, she did a very good show at the end, and i am very happy to say it.

I liked Suzy (she keeps improving) and Isabella (very well done job), in my opinion Angelina, Michelle and Nancy were less brilliant than other nights.

was this show now good or bad ?

I would have expected some more words of appreciation and positive comments on the show of Miss Gia, as she showed finally what all wanted to see and asked for, for a fairly decent time. she even replied to some of the sms. So the silence of her fans really makes me wonder.

Nancy & Michelle again were very present during the show and Suzy is running on the edge of being a hot model. I like her performance and teasing. And even Isabella was able to find her place this time. About Angelina I will not comment.

the show was admittedly lacking some action, however, in lack of requests. But it still survived quite well.

slow

P.S.: I see the camps stick together; I love you guys

Tarl_Cabot wrote:

fcn2011 wrote:... and the biggest no go was the instantly blahblah from Maya´s sister as mod. She talked the whole night.....

you don't like stories about peas or beanes or Mods who don't know how many models will be in the night show or when the night show will end????
most german Mods on Astra are just different levels of NO!!!!!

I would even hear her favourite Singer DJ Bobo as when is speaking over and over again....

fcn2011 wrote:... and the biggest no go was the instantly blahblah from Maya´s sister as mod. She talked the whole night.....

you don't like stories about peas or beanes or Mods who don't know how many models will be in the night show or when the night show will end????
most german Mods on Astra are just different levels of NO!!!!!

Slowfox wrote:

JBGOOD wrote:

Slowfox wrote:do not know, and will not judge, whether you guys are right or wrong.

but the day I see a positive comment I light a candle

slow

Don't you think it will be more honest, sometimes, to have a look at a show (better if your favourite is not in) and give your own comment? I would prefer your direct opinion on the show that all these remarks on common customers comments.

..or maybe your point of view is so different now that any comparison is no more possible?

whish a nice day

well, I did not address anybody personally, but apparently you take it personal, thus allow me, please, to give you a personal reply.

I understand your point. however, what I do not get is, why watch the show when it is bad, only to complain thereafter ?

where are the proposals for improvement ? and where are the positive comments once a show is good ? but presumably there is nothing to raise when a show is good.

certainly there are ups and downs in the 'enthusiasm' of the production and the viewers, and both do not always go together, but imho the shows are not that bad, as the general opinion seems to be.

This general opinion of the bad shows, in my view, can tempt people to only write bad critics, as to be accepted within the happy bunch of complainers. Swimming with the stream, and howling with the wolves, is always the easiest way.

That is my personal opinion, whether popular or unpopular, and that is what you asked for.

slow

Hi slow,

look up the Wolves...

The whole show wasn´t boring. Isabella and Naomi were great what i saw. It is the problem, that there are no new ideas anymore for the show and the biggest no go was the instantly blahblah from Maya´s sister as mod. She talked the whole night.....

I would like to say the first ones who are really boring are the models, and the direction of this channel does nothing to change it, why? because there are a good number of softfans very happy to see her idolized on screen just smiling. "I don´t want to see her naked"-they say -" i am happy just to see her there". That´s the real problem. The same show, the same models... and money!!!! ity works!!! a good number of callings and sms!!!! bravo!!!

This guys are doing this poor strategy is working well while they are spending their money, and they are even satisfied with the very poor quality of payment shows (streaming and performances) in general. But..if it works and it is profitable, Why ETV should change it? ETV is turning day after day in a talk show, with endless speeches (Angelina on micro is a nightmare) stupid answers for childish sms, stupid declarations of love and devotion... It seems the chat room of a teenage fans club. The models can´t do anything hot with such censorship, with any possibilities to do something creative, they are unmotivated, (Sabrina, Angelina, Gia... is obvious) and they are absolutely bored. Slow, there is a full thread about ideas, alternatives..there are so much as we can count them. But it is not so much complicated to improve the shows. Just come back good ideas (shower shows, office shows, car washing show... thematic shows).., closer camera work, good direction, creativity, music.....the problem is there is no need to do it with this such less demanding customers, satisfied even with seing a model doing nothing for hours in a payment show, and after spending their money, they say here "a great show".

kyke50 wrote:@zxcv and @JBGOOD
I am in accordance with the two. How can the models offer a good spectacle if the first ones who get bored are they themselves?
The rules bind to the models of hands and feet;
the sms repeat themselves constantly;
the music is always the same one;
they see that his work is destroyed, systematically, by the bad situation of the cameras and deficient direction.
If the models do not amuse themselves (and that one sees that it is happening) it is not possible that they could entertain the spectator.

Directors..

Vicky, was a model, not very good in front of camera ( I could be wrong )

Elly ?

Janine, was a model, not very good in front of cameras

Hans, well it's all been said really

So what hope is there ?

@zxcv and @JBGOOD
I am in accordance with the two. How can the models offer a good spectacle if the first ones who get bored are they themselves?
The rules bind to the models of hands and feet;
the sms repeat themselves constantly;
the music is always the same one;
they see that his work is destroyed, systematically, by the bad situation of the cameras and deficient direction.
If the models do not amuse themselves (and that one sees that it is happening) it is not possible that they could entertain the spectator.

@slow
Thanks for you reply
No nothing personal, beleve me. I have no reason for it
I'm just a bit upset about these post always against who is pointing out what is going on, clearly visible to everybody. And I like to go straight!
I still enjoy watching, and calling my favourite model as you do- But I do not have any reason for thanks today, at least for this management. .
Any suggestions? give us back shows like the first Scarlet Fever, the Gia/Julia Sunday shows, the thematic shows... let the models/directors get back all the enthusiam they have lost, and I'm sure you will be unable to count how many positive comments the day after.

But are you sure that Ivo and Co. are ready,or want to listen to common people advices? Difficult to understand what is in their minds (or maybe just not allowed...)

And why do not make it easy? Have you asked yourself why so many complaints? are we all crazy people?

Anyway I hope to share with you, very soon, good opinion on " last night show"
Have a nice day
JB

Slowfox wrote:This general opinion of the bad shows, in my view, can tempt people to only write bad critics, as to be accepted within the happy bunch of complainers. Swimming with the stream, and howling with the wolves, is always the easiest way.
slow

Well , I really like the logic which you always included between your lines …..to complain just for complaining ….is not fair .

But just A fair question :

Does all these... huge negative mainstream of opinions... among all fans of ETV .....due to their inability to see the others good sides in ETV world

Or It's really due to the bad and negative attitude from the services provider …....who has already set his mind ....to keep this horrible routine to continue ....day after day and night after night .....without any real intention to exert some ...Just more efforts .....in order to offer something new .

It's not fair ....when you ask the people to stop complaining ...while you don't recognize their right in a good service and otherwise ....you intend to keep this endless repetitive routine to continue to destroy everything around .

Even the models themselves had become fed up with their work ......nothing remains to inspire them anymore ......take a look at Kristina's face in yesterday and you will know that she get fed up from nearly everything around her …..

And where's the logic ...in offering the same horrible service every night which includes ....the same thing...in the same set..with the same exact number of performers... with the same wishes ...along with same exact answers .

And you want everybody to stop complain ....Sorry but this is not a logic .

Slowfox wrote:

JBGOOD wrote:

Slowfox wrote:do not know, and will not judge, whether you guys are right or wrong.

but the day I see a positive comment I light a candle

slow

Don't you think it will be more honest, sometimes, to have a look at a show (better if your favourite is not in) and give your own comment? I would prefer your direct opinion on the show that all these remarks on common customers comments.

..or maybe your point of view is so different now that any comparison is no more possible?

whish a nice day

well, I did not address anybody personally, but apparently you take it personal, thus allow me, please, to give you a personal reply.

I understand your point. however, what I do not get is, why watch the show when it is bad, only to complain thereafter ?

where are the proposals for improvement ? and where are the positive comments once a show is good ? but presumably there is nothing to raise when a show is good.

certainly there are ups and downs in the 'enthusiasm' of the production and the viewers, and both do not always go together, but imho the shows are not that bad, as the general opinion seems to be.

This general opinion of the bad shows, in my view, can tempt people to only write bad critics, as to be accepted within the happy bunch of complainers. Swimming with the stream, and howling with the wolves, is always the easiest way.

That is my personal opinion, whether popular or unpopular, and that is what you asked for.

slow

So if we complain about the shows it's because we have no opinion but to follow others.
I think viewers are justified in complaining, look at the evidence all good shows eg office show etc have been stopped. Cameras are now roof top and afar. Models are dressed in shorts and tights like they have been to a jumble sale. Same models every night just standing wiggling all night.

My idea of a good show would be baggy tops or blouses, shortish skirts and more mobile cameras seducing the models. Not so much naked all the time that too becomes boring after a while.
The first Scarlet fever was perfect, it had everything, especially before 10pm.
What has happened to evt is not censoreship but the lack of sexiness,teasing and no vision. Every frame is like a hot potatoes, but it does not need to be.
And I do not watch it unless Gia who has everything etv should encompass in my opinion is in the show.

Joker1305 wrote:

klemi wrote:Naomi deserves some nice compliments, everything else sucked again...

I only watched from 12:30 to 1:30, but there I also found Michelle and Claudia did a good show.

for me it is simple, no pussy no ETV. I remember one of the last women driving me crazy,...Calomira. And Elza. But at the time they didnt show girls from 2 metres height and 6-7 metres distance. Pussy from 5cm or pussy from 5 metres for me has nothing to do with censorship. It is just a job bad done.

You don't see for which scenes they got trouble afterwards, so it's really difficult to judge from outside what they actually are allowed, anyway censorship is a big problem nowadays in most countries.
But just let me think, Calomira left ~1.5 years ago, so to pick up Slow's comment, do you still watch only to have a reason to complain?
Or do you honestly expect that the old days return?
Or isn't there anyway now and then something that's worth watching?

Regards
Joker

Both.

First is still alive, pretty much because of your sentence, because we remember old times.
Second, yes, still are some things. Naomi or Karry or some old stars in comparison with hope, that things will improve. Maybe you and some others noticed I really dont complain much. Lately I wanna see it more from positive side. But thing that makes me angry is the thing how horrible are they with cameras...Job not done as I and You have to do it makes me mad. Really mad.