The complaints department

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20.05.2010, 16:42

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Yep! Support in the complain area? I used to do that in the special topic for that before. And in the general discussion too. But here the topic is complain isn't it?? And if it is only allowed for etv payer okay, goodbye!

20.05.2010, 16:33

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helmi wrote:If a soccer fan shout's "Spieler X raus!" must he ...

to go on with the useless off topic discussion:

The question 'Is it allowed to criticise the own team or must a fan always support the own team?' has often and always beed discused between soccer fans and there was no answer.
My opinion is that a fan should have his own opinion but also should support his team during the match. A chorus of whistles has nearly never been helpful for the own team.

and btw: just the fan who spend money for the team can criticise the team in the stadium during the match.

20.05.2010, 15:59

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If a soccer fan shout's "Spieler X raus!" must he expect a supervising fan master who tells him "Stop your stupid words every 10 minutes"? Must he expect to be attacked by other viewers who tell him how unpolite he is? I don't want to have problems as a viewer or fan. I'm not interested in fan fights. I thought this is a fan forum. I am an etv fan and thought - see the topic!!! - to be invited to complain whatever I don't like. Now also you come around with "be a man, take the attacks, don't be like a pussy". Sorry, not my game. The girls are the players, they are on the playground. And they must live with this focussed position where their actions are valued, in critic, hard negativ or positiv. As a fan/forum member I am in the consumer position or not? If all my explications just lead to another attack like before this really will be my last statement.

20.05.2010, 15:58

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When helmi spoke about attacks I thought he referred to the post of 'upstream'.

Etv models are the subject of this forum, people on the street aren't.

We just have to try to be fair, polite and objective.

Fairness, politeness and objectivity are features we all should have, but we often can make some mistakes.

This happens to everybody, both members who usually express their criticism and members who always defend ETV.

20.05.2010, 13:33

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Hosea 8:7 says:
'For they sow the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind.'
If you can't stand the whirlwind, you shouldn't sow wind ...
As most models are also forum members you're claims agains 'directly the forum member attacking complaints' should also be true for your own posts.
And I don't see more attack in 'Get a life, helmi' than in 'The cast for coming night - mega bad!!!'.
Claiming a freedom for yourself should automaticly include that you grant this freedom to others.
But playing the strong man when attaking others and being a pussy when someone attacks you is just poor.

So you, me, and everyone else should well think when posting a complaint if you would like others saying that about you.
Best would be not to complain about persons at all, but I guess this is impossible for nearly all posters.
Posts like in the Gia - Discussion & Chat are just evidence of incapacity and tell more about how narrow minded (or mindless) the poster is and nothing about the topic ...

20.05.2010, 12:52

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helmi wrote:Thank you for your "friendly" "advice"! I thought it is an open forum where direct and open critics are wished, welcome. But you as an obvious supervisor tell me in an teacher's way to shut up. I think I'm wrong here and will stop posting here until there will be rules here that people who attack other posters like you did are officially asked to stop that unpolite discussion style. There is a difference between posting hard and direct complaints concerning the show and directly the forum member attacking complaints about complaints. Goodbye forum!

Please, don't let yourself discouraged by some attacks!
And don't renounce to express your points of view with objectivity and politeness.

20.05.2010, 12:34

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Thank you for your "friendly" "advice"! I thought it is an open forum where direct and open critics are wished, welcome. But you as an obvious supervisor tell me in an teacher's way to shut up. I think I'm wrong here and will stop posting here until there will be rules here that people who attack other posters like you did are officially asked to stop that unpolite discussion style. There is a difference between posting hard and direct complaints concerning the show and directly the forum member attacking complaints about complaints. Goodbye forum!

20.05.2010, 09:14

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helmi wrote:Amanda's talking Thumb down Thumb down Thumb down

Better talking than entering the studio. Sad

20.05.2010, 09:12

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Awesome, I'm going to bed early.

20.05.2010, 09:08

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5 uglies to destroy Claudia's show ...AngryAngry

20.05.2010, 07:21

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The cast for coming night - mega bad!!! Thumb down Thumb down Thumb down Thumb down Thumb down

20.05.2010, 00:11

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helmi wrote:Aria, Ashley, Madlen Thumb down Thumb down Thumb down

nice to see: if a model goes naked you will delete her immediately on your list

no words

19.05.2010, 23:59

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Stop you rubbish childish posts. We all here know your kind of taste!
We need no info´s after all 15 minutes what happen on the screen. We all have eyes.
So when you post than three or four facts maybe in one comment! This threat is almost long enough! I like not all models I´ve see here, but when I go on street I see also most likely persons and some who not pretty,too. But that mean not I talk every 15 minutes about them!

19.05.2010, 23:35

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Aria, Ashley, Madlen Thumb down Thumb down Thumb down

19.05.2010, 23:15

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Why do they really nearly always avoid showing hot doggy style straight from behind?