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slava64 wrote:From these fans will be created the joint-stock company where there is no censorship at all, as it was in 2005-2008. Well Slava64 I read your whole post and I agree with all the points that you bring up and propose, however the censorship issue is really something of a grey area, as you are probably aware of this was something which was out of the control of the ETV management, every government across Europe and the rest of the world has what they call a watershed. The UK which I live in has long been subject to this ruling, what surprised me was that ETV managed to get away with showing a proper show at all times of the day and the night, however it was always inevitable that this was never going to last long term. What I don't understand though is why is the hours on the nightshow so reduced, only 5 hours per night is allowed whilst in the UK its 7 hours as our watershed on the Babe Channels runs from 10PM to 5AM, however the girls have to wait until 11PM before they are allowed to go naked with topless only for the first hour. Strangely outside of the Adult Channels the watershed is 8PM and with regards to nudity being shown technically its not forbidden outside of these hours just so long that it for artistic or educational purposes, more baffling is that on the SKY Movies they is no restrictions whatsoever other than having to enter your 4 Pin digit number prior to the 8PM watershed. This is where I bring about how ETV could perhaps bypass the censorship issues either they force the telly viewer to do likewise or encrypt the whole channel with a small fee to unlock it. In the meantime I'd really like to see ETV improve the current nightshow as its just far too predictable. Some themes such as the allnight shower show would be great because with the correct theme and right selection of girls then it can make for a great show 
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But this idea was exactly what crowd funding was.
For a lot of projects, first it was a dream and it was utopian because no one had the money to realize it. With more and more crowd funding plattforms more and more of this ideas would be reality. A lot of ideas would be true with these finance. |
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Dear Slava,
I think exactly as you, I talked with some friends of a similar thing few days ago, so as u can see your utopia is quite shared as your ideas on the moment of etv (but who knows maybe it’s the moment they’re making more money ever) I also think making money is not their priority for many reasons I won’t say here again. Coming back to your idea I’ve 2 big doubts: - The needed sum won’t be some tens of thousands euros but I fear a lot more, what you’re expectation about the sum? Cause I can really have an idea.. - If you collect from viewers they won’t also spend in the channel but they rightly reclaim free shows, sms, maybe calls, is impossible spend for buy something and then pay again for have the service you bought. It’s easy if u join 4/5 people would be easy decide and control, last thing I tell you an easy example regarding me I could also invest 10000 euros in something I believe (maybe Etv is not the right case) but if I do it I want see the possibility to have back my money and maybe something more. After this 2 points I also believe that changing some point the channel would be a rich channel for all, girls, directors, workers and owners. I agree, your idea is utopia, but how else? |
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slava64 wrote:Slowfox wrote:slava64 wrote:Slowfox wrote:Well, there is no law that forbids dreanming. Yes. You are right and that is why I deleted it. Anyway, thanks to your attention and your quick copy/paste skills it is unnecessarily to stay here and only to get other people into your boat. Well, apparently you have no better thing to do as to make me look bad only because of some disagreement. No issue with me as am used to this, but you should consider that once you are busy in a public forum like this you should be mentally strong enough to accept that not everybody likes what you do or say. My comnents e.g. are very frequent subject to dislike and only because I see things sometimes different or have a different and for many unpopular opinion. Well, it is my and my very own opinion and I stand to it. You call me a troll, but where is the difference to your present polemic behavior. Anyway, forget it. As a sign if good will I will delete the negative rep I once gave you as this is what frustrates you. I definitely do not want to continue to contribute to your miscomfort. Once you abstain of giving a no answer for the 3rd time I ask one of the moderators to delete this entire string of comments as to return to some peace considering also to have your agreement. After all x-mas is close and giving is more blessed than receiving. |
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Slowfox wrote:slava64 wrote:Slowfox wrote:Well, there is no law that forbids dreanming. This your post is an example of disrespect, negativity and rudeness amongst and versus forum members, however as usual. So don't expect me to answer. |
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slava64 wrote:Slowfox wrote:Well, there is no law that forbids dreanming. Edit. What was written here has been read by those concerned and thus has served the purpose. There is no reason to keep it here. However, below still stands reflecting my personal view of what is presently happenng. Also a reason why I deleted the above. In view of this and regardless of, thank you to mr. slava for his answer. On a general side note, and sorry to say, this forum and in particular the ETV section is without example. It has become a place of disrespect, negativity and rudeness amongst and versus forum members. I do not really wonder that many good names went quiet or disappeared completely. |
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Slowfox wrote:Well, there is no law that forbids dreaming. That's exactly you dream in vain, if you waiting for my answer. I have no even the slightest desire to communicate with you. Read my post here and take it easy! [hidden link - please register] |
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It would be but the easiest, if ETV would say:
the concept that we have now doesn't work. The girls leave again after a short time ETV. It must have a reason. The people don't accept the Web shows. Why not? ETV does so love those responsible by ETV, back to what it once was. And pushes your failure on others. |
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slava64 wrote:I understand that this wild idea, but: Utopia? Yes, as this ranges somewhere between wet and day dream. How much would you personally be willing to invest ? Half a million or even a million Euro ? Or just the average of the credits you spend per month ? How many people would you need to collect enough money to buy in ? 100.000 ? And then having 100.000 smart bosses who perfectly know how to run the business ? Not to mention all legal aspects attached to that. National as well as international laws of broadcasting. Investing all profit in development ? So you do not want to earn anything nor cash in any return on the invested capital ? And all just to see a lttle more pussy ? In all fairness .... Well, there is no law that forbids dreaming. |
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I understand that this wild idea, but:
It is obvious that the channel is dying lately, very boring shows, many models left ETV, falling interest of viewers. If no one will do extra steps to save the channel, then the channel will closed, without a doubt. In short, it is necessary to choose one of two things: or simply do nothing and sit back and watch for the collapse of the channel, or all of the real fans will have to collect the money and buy channel (after all, and so financial budget ETV consists of our money - payment for credits, sms, phone calls). From these fans will be created the joint-stock company where there is no censorship at all, as it was in 2005-2008. Shareholders will be have universal suffrage choose who of the models will work on the channel after casting. Also will elected the whole staff of stylists, cameraman, moderators, directors. Particularly important to try to return the former golden models back in the show. Further grant the girls an opportunity to determine themselves how to make the show: hot or super hot. In this reasonable approach the popularity of the channel will be grow and all the investment will pay off very quickly and then profit can be directed to the development of the channel and also salary increase of girls. I agree, my idea is utopia, but how else? |
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tunturi wrote:I looked at the old Eurotic TV recordings and I'm sure that I enjoyed them a thousand YES and for all newcomers. You had right we live in a world of everything and everytime changes, but this said not that every change must go the bad way. etv and a lot of etv viewers had a history and we all didnt live without history. So what is wrong to say in the past the etv program was better than today and we wish to go back to these good program and dont say this is not posible. Most of the formal and goverment rules didnt changed in the last years, only etv had changed internal rules. Why they do this? I dont know, etv didnt make this public, or is it etv cant do this because they hadnt really a strategy. It is possible that the only strategy is make money and make more money. If I had wrote in an other post the only language etv understands is money. We can write here or emails or on the wall in the eyes of etv its all for the trash can. They only interested in money. By the way, thank you for all the videomakers and the reupload of the good old days. |
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kennyboy2012 wrote:..., listen to feedback .., That is the problem of etv bosses/staff. They would not read any not praising feedback, all other was for the trash can. I had tried sometimes to write etv something on differend ways and I got never ever an answer. OK its posible that they got too much feedback and they are incapable to answer to everyone  Had someone experiences if this was some years ago the same? The only feedback that etv had respect for is money. |
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I looked at the old Eurotic TV recordings and I'm sure that I enjoyed them a thousand
times more than, for example, on this night. (Amy, Mashiara, Scarlet, Randa just to name a few) |
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GeorgeSK wrote:I feel sorry for ETV. During the morning show today they started some of their exclusive shows - the long ones - on their own, without viewer requests, as far as I noticed correctly. And as I could make out from the low resolution preview of the premium stream (I didn't bother to enter), most of the exclusive shows were the artsy-fartsy kind, thus I have a growing suspicion that some of the exclusives (not all) were pre-recorded, or at least pre-choreographed and scripted. And there is a noticeable trend of less and less shower shows. They even put on a sign "Exclusive Shower Show" to draw customers to exclusives - they just used to put the "Exclusive Show" sign to all exclusive shows, including showers. They must be desperate for customers. Seems the viewership is in a very steep decline. I hate talk of ETV being on the way out, I used to see it all the time from a few select members that weren't happy with a particular change, and would declare it was rubbish and that ETV was struggling, but at the moment, I hate to say that I kind of agree, that its struggling. It seems that recent changes in style of direction are to blame, from my viewpoint. The Friday show is a good example. It started off really good, the strongest show of the week, going a bit further. and then we had the period where they tried to use girls that were just wrong, doing topless only. theres made the show crap, but then after a while, they stopped, and the shows were back to being great again, up until a few weeks ago, and now it seems the direction is for much softer content, and herein lies an issue. If you allow a certain level for a while, that the viewers enjoy, and then suddenly pull the levels back down, viewers are not going to be happy. and they will vote with their feet and go elsewhere. Its not just down to the levels, there does seem a different direction from ETV, and its really not good. They need to re-evaluate what they are doing, listen to feedback and have along think, |
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I feel sorry for ETV. During the morning show today they started some of their exclusive shows - the long ones - on their own, without viewer requests, as far as I noticed correctly. And as I could make out from the low resolution preview of the premium stream (I didn't bother to enter), most of the exclusive shows were the artsy-fartsy kind, thus I have a growing suspicion that some of the exclusives (not all) were pre-recorded, or at least pre-choreographed and scripted. And there is a noticeable trend of less and less shower shows. They even put on a sign "Exclusive Shower Show" to draw customers to exclusives - they just used to put the "Exclusive Show" sign to all exclusive shows, including showers. They must be desperate for customers. Seems the viewership is in a very steep decline.
Also, since I started watching the Member's TV Evening just 3 weeks ago their numbers of requests go down by the week with most of the requests coming from the same small group of people - I would call them the German brigade: Goethe, Lionheart, Lone Wolf, etc. Seems the show is on the way out already, which is a pity. Though I know that the show is just a vehicle for obtaining new customers and addict them to vip messages. The same is true for the "classic" night shows - the same requests from the same people ending with a nude shower set. They even omitted the showers altogether last week on Friday and Saturday. Gone are the days of fetish content showers - pantyhose, heels, etc. Add to this the desperate effort to raise cash in the winter promotion and you have to ask the question: Is this really the end of ETV? (I hope not.) |
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