how the new etv ?

Kenny point of view: chi si accontenta gode.......i bought a few recent videos and i found nothing special (comparing with old fta shows) at a price not worthwhile

JKO12 wrote:After a month we take stock of the situation:

- the shows are more expensive than before, but the quality has not changed for the better
- the criticism of disapproval are more numerous
- the oldest video have not yet been published
- there isn't a public part of the site where new customers can get an idea of what they are to buy
- etv continues to support his case with a tone of arrogance and paternalism

In short a real mess!

etv level : -10

I have to disagree with you on a number of your points:

- the shows are more expensive than before, but the quality has not changed for the better
well they are, if you compare them to the free shows, but for me, its working out around the same price per show, if not cheaper. It all depends on how much you would spend in the shows as they were before. Some of the new shows don't take SMS or calls, so work out cheaper.
And the quality is much much better, I have great quality video feeds here.

- the criticism of disapproval are more numerous
Not sure where you get that from? on the etv site, there's plenty of positive feedback, and on this forum, there is as well. The negative comments seem to come from the same usual few that may not even be watching!

- the oldest video have not yet been published
agreed, this should be addressed or they should just say when or if they will return, but no information or reply is not good.

- there isn't a public part of the site where new customers can get an idea of what they are to buy
well they cant preview live shows lol but the video hall has trailers so you get an idea of what the videos are like,

- etv continues to support his case with a tone of arrogance and paternalism
theres very little arrogance now, the etv wall has some good replies from etv, with just an occasional poor reply, but I believe this is because they'll have a number of people with access to post on behalf of etv, so there'll always be a few comments that are different to the rest
"Paternalism" comes from the Latin pater, meaning to act like a father, or to treat another person like a child. That may have been the case in the past, but I would say not any more.

Yes, ETV have been pretty poor ( OK, bloody awful) in the recent past, and in recent weeks, they have improved beyond hope, and this past week has had some brilliant shows that have certainly shown that ETV have listened at last and are now delivering the shows that most of us want to see.

To be clear, I'm posting from the viewpoint of a viewer that has actually watched the recent shows and not just formed opinion based on the older shows and others comments
Yes, I'm enjoying this new refreshing ETV. If it keeps going, then great. If it's short term, then I will enjoy it while it lasts.

etv +10
peace and goodwill to all

After a month we take stock of the situation:

- the shows are more expensive than before, but the quality has not changed for the better
- the criticism of disapproval are more numerous
- the oldest video have not yet been published
- there isn't a public part of the site where new customers can get an idea of what they are to buy
- etv continues to support his case with a tone of arrogance and paternalism

In short a real mess!

etv level : -10

it is as if they become our sissy-trainer for the rest of our bug's life...
sorry, i'm not a bug, i'm not a sissy-boy and first of all i'm not stupid!
... and sure i dont want to be trained by mindless molvanians.
I found the alternative to etv, nextdoor girls from every fu** corner on this damned planet!

But I'm curious, etv is like a detective story, to the last page until the end...

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We're in the district.
Why is the old ETV broken?
Right, little pretty girl and other errors.
Why does the new ETV?
Right, little pretty girl and other errors.
Do you actually repeat a mistake?
Not normal!

We can discuss about Tv or not TV.
We can discuss about pay for a show or not to pay.
But we can not discuss about pre-recording shows. That has nothing to do with Liveshow-tv.
And no show this week? Can not be serious.
Maybe is time to switch ETV to the threads for "other adult content".

At this time is as example "seventeenlive" with his daily events (shows), more Liveshow-TV. as ETV.

Well, "Installations" roughly matched their crude description.
Too dark, too much on the "erotic theatre" side, not enough erotic entertainment.
Worst point: It was a preproduced video, assembled and edited, not Live.
Only positive point: Good picture quality, no pixelation.

Can one tell me for what a girl needs to work as Web girl ETV?
I thought getting a registration with proof of age, rich but a laptop and a good Internet connection.
And not even ETV needs pay from your earned money.

Now we know why ETV decided to stop the last night show when it was 4 hours instead the 5 hours planned. They decided it was good until then, so why to continue? No, better go home and end the show whenever you want, who cares the length? So, the length of the shows in an information with 0 value, as they can finnish any show whenever they want.

It´s not fair and not serious. According their arguments the Premier League can decide to finnish one football match at minute 70 because the match was good until then and maybe the last 20 minutes can be bad. The thing is they can be good at all, at the end they are amateurs and very lazy people, and everytime they make something good, don´t last even one day, they only need one day to destroy all the good things they did the day before.

imaginator55 wrote:Strip clubs, escort services or erotic cam sites with a testing phase for new performers do not exist. Every girl who wants to work anywhere in this business has to shed all her inhibitions and perform as they are expected to perform from day one. Yet there are dozens of girls next door who do this first plunge into the deep every day. I see no reason why the start of a career of a young girl in erotic entertainment cannot be at ETV (assuming it continues to exist). I guess the secluded ETV studio and still soft erotic action is far less intimidating than for example performing a first fully nude live lap dance on a stranger), so I do not expect to see just old worn-out professionals at ETV. I think the past practice of keeping many shy girls was purely driven by business reasons. Girls like Isadora got lots of requests each show for doing something they had not done before and even after viewers should have known that they were never going to get what they asked for they kept sending expensive requests to try again. Now that they have to replace their models as fast as possible, they cannot afford to play such games anymore, every new girl has to be hot from the start.

Since I am of a different opinion

No strip club with a little bit niveau throws his dancers into cold water. After an audition there first time a few weeks training and work of a choreography. Then one begins in the mid-day shows with very little audience and if you are good you can get in the evening shows with full house and the chance to earn good money.
No escort service sends his girls with no education in manners, conversation and so on to the customers, who still expect something exclusiv.
And every camgirl takes time to know what it is willing to do and what their customers want. Most work independently and can all decide for themselves what they do.
And at seventeen live as example theres something like a audition cam for newbies or some other girls help the newbies at her start.

Even every street hooker has her education with her pimp behind.

So I see no reason for a rational, a little bit clever young girl to work for ETV.
A small insignificant website, that speaks at their lounge bad about their models and completely have no real concept. And who wants to work for a company where there is nowhere to read or to hear something positive

To calm down: A professional is not automatically old, worn out and ugly.
Can as well beautiful, young and fresh (they are only more expensive)

connell wrote:

pollopollo wrote:vector wrote:
Where are all the Bulgarian students which supplement their pocket money during the holidays?

And without day shows or TV Shows to test this job. Which student want on his first day on work, strip for a group of strangers in a studio, touched by a group of unknown women and spread their legs.
No one and the girls they want this, works in a strip-club or work as a prostitutes and earn more money.

Strip clubs, escort services or erotic cam sites with a testing phase for new performers do not exist. Every girl who wants to work anywhere in this business has to shed all her inhibitions and perform as they are expected to perform from day one. Yet there are dozens of girls next door who do this first plunge into the deep every day. I see no reason why the start of a career of a young girl in erotic entertainment cannot be at ETV (assuming it continues to exist). I guess the secluded ETV studio and still soft erotic action is far less intimidating than for example performing a first fully nude live lap dance on a stranger), so I do not expect to see just old worn-out professionals at ETV. I think the past practice of keeping many shy girls was purely driven by business reasons. Girls like Isadora got lots of requests each show for doing something they had not done before and even after viewers should have known that they were never going to get what they asked for they kept sending expensive requests to try again. Now that they have to replace their models as fast as possible, they cannot afford to play such games anymore, every new girl has to be hot from the start.

I dont see more etc? What s happened?

One week ago, we read in the lobby: "The old videos will appear in the video section much faster. We will upload the old videos in the Video Hall section. There will be at least one video per day. This is the target rate for now.". They did not write when this incredible series of at least one OLD video each day will start. They have published quite a few videos since then but all of them are NEW material. It shows once again that giving their customers their viewing rights back does not seem to be high on their list of priorities, they rather try to make money on new stuff. I also notice that their video page does not have an adequate framework to host a large video archive. As long as there are only a few handfuls of videos on the page, you can still easily scroll down to look for what you want to see, but as soon as there are many more online this layout becomes impractical. Some time ago I speculated that ETV might not have their old videos anymore. I am afraid they will simply wait till we stop asking about old videos or till they finally close the website. Did I already see a show schedule for next week?

pollopollo wrote:vector wrote:
Where are all the Bulgarian students which supplement their pocket money during the holidays?

Go to a university and distribute your business cards on which stands Producer of a TV channel and tell the girls that you are looking for new models, there are many naive ones with interest
Go to university and tell the girls I have a website for stripper and search new models, then they laugh at you.

And without day shows or TV Shows to test this job. Which student want on his first day on work, strip for a group of strangers in a studio, touched by a group of unknown women and spread their legs.
No one and the girls they want this, works in a strip-club or work as a prostitutes and earn more money.

So ETV will find only professionells who want to work alongside a little. But this can I see on the web everywhere.
And with one show on the day, how should build a new model there ever any fan base. Mission imposible.

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arielo wrote:thats the problem right there "A pity the cast of the show yesterday was Danna, Joy, Angelina, the new model and Kiara. A show like this, with more beatiful and young models like Lauren or Jasmine (don´t think of Roshana, she would never join a show like the one yesterday) would be amazing" no one wants to see the old shit models.

Manny of us are angry at Etv and for good reason, also we all have our favorite models. I think that no matter the preference we should respect the models no matter if they are old or young and new. Models are doing their job so i think "old shits" is degrading the models and thats not fair for them. In the end their job is to entertain us and sometimes that is very hard job. So lets respect the models.