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Carter8 wrote:Slowfox wrote:took the opportunity of celebrating the 100th hour of talk with a beautiful girl, a tempting woman and a charming lady. with all due respect, let me decide what is a waste and what not. It is not your business to judge, Sir. but thanks for wasting your time for this useless and unnecessary comment. slow |
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Slowfox wrote:took the opportunity of celebrating the 100th hour of talk with a beautiful girl, a tempting woman and a charming lady. what a waste of money, for a girl that you never meet in your whole life |
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Yesterday I downloaded video from 24.-25. 7. and today I have watch it for details I did not noticed on Tuesday. When Claudia gaive her my humble gift, Roshana was surprised. But when she read my note, her eyes were wet - tears of happiness. I have not such good feeling in my heart for years and I will try my best not to disappoint her.
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well guys, what to say, after a disastrous late night internet show on Thursday, it was good to see and hear, her being back in a good mood.
not really demanding any show or performance of her, took the opportunity of celebrating the 100th hour of talk with a beautiful girl, a tempting woman and a charming lady. slow |
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[quote='Stefan51'][quote='Slowfox']
Dear Stefan51, a) for the answering of calls, please blame me and not her b) if your 'technical problem' which I was partly involved in, would have been solved you would have called as well, putting yourself in the 'group' you are blaming sincerely / slow a, OK, because my "technical problems" have been solved, I have now much more information and I feel obliged add to my note: These "one girl" internet shows are really very hard. Girl is trapped in one room, alone, with no help with camera, with almost no message on screen, so she is happy to hear the voice of her friend. If she want to move, to dance etc., so because of static web camera and no other camera girl we could not see her face, if she will change the camera angle, we will loose from view some other parts of her body etc. As a best solution I consider to finish with "one girl internet shows and make shows with minimal two girls, optimal with two girls AND cameraman. b, I am now in that group, but originally I called just to cheer up her a little. When there was some device showing that other viewers are trying get connection, I will finish my conversation in few minutes (at least I hope so) and try to continue in the conversation later. |
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Slowfox wrote:Dear Stefan51, Dear Slowfox, a, You are partially right, I am not blaming her for answering the call, I blame her that she lost the concentration upon the show and so she did not recognized, that show is getting bored b, OK, you are right, I would be on the other side of the front, but it will neither finish the battle nor change my mind. c, I am afraid, that if we refuse a compromise now, the ETV will finish exactly like eUrotic before, trying in the last days of their existence enforced their models to more explicit performance like it was Bohemian night with explicit clitoris masturbation etc - I think that we both are in the same group of fans/friend trying not allow to repeat history in such a way. d, This can be done much easier sending stars like Roshana, Claudia etc on daily shift from 15,00 to 21,00, together with the group of "new models" - I started elaborate a new post about not loosing money in answering calls of customer and simultaneously enhanced of quality of the show in the section New ideas in ETV live show, we can discuss it separately tomorrow. By the way, if such type of show should be considered as call/talk show, so the name of the show should be something like Let's talk, but then name was, as I remember, Another hot hours or Another hot afternoon or something like that. e, this is not true and this time it is not fair from you. I was excited from her first time on February this year with her strip at the wall, but in the play of light and shadow I saw only a small part of her straddle, I could hardly testify that she is not a boy... With the good choreography you can dance a "hot" dance and take off nothing. I am too old and experienced, I will not get horny seeing any part of the woman's body, especially when it is beyond my reach, and I prefer generally look to woman from aesthetical point of view. But, after all, she is working at the erotic live show... f, This seems to be truth for now, but I am afraid, that it is to late... Try only one day not call her and only watch the show and you will get imagination, how most people from a ETV Membership see the show. Show is very often getting bored, ETV service is poor - for example,try look in to store,almost everything is sold out, why they do not buy new goods. From the day, when they will lose a tenth of ETV Members they will last less than three months. Sincerely Stefan |
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Stefan51 wrote:I can see the situation from both ends. Roshana came on stage and start answering calls. From the point of view other customers watching girl while her all concentration is devoted to calling customer, start be very soon boring. Than came my message about technical problems with calling from handy - but I did not aked her for help, I just wanted tell her that I could not call her as I promised. I asked technical group of ETV for help by mail, but they were - like always - slow and unable. Only after Roshana tell something about the problem responding my message, came Kristina into studio and blame me for uncorect number in my account - I was trying change this number every few minutes, I should write the number in the form in what ETV will get it from that austrian number, and I did not know, if it should include also long distance code for Austria, which is the same for all word, I was calling all evening the same number and it was busy. But let us return to the Roshana's show. I can agree with space6969, that the first part of the exclusive show was boring for all viewers except calling customer. If Roshana's concentration would stay on the show, she would noticed it also herself. Her excuse that she was alone and there were almost no messages we can take into account, but she is realy very good so I think that only one message will do the best for the show: Roshana, it is boring, do something. I do believe that she does not need messages like go topless, lay down for few minutes and do some exercises, wait for suitable music, go closer to camera and make a fullstrip etc. She is the star, but she must be concentrated on her performance, than she is the best.She partially proved it in the second part, which was much better. Dear Stefan51, a) for the answering of calls, please blame me and not her b) if your 'technical problem' which I was partly involved in, would have been solved you would have called as well, putting yourself in the 'group' you are blaming c) for your show schedule: I would not be happy to be cut off after 30 minutes d) it has been said on various occasions that such shows are call/talk shows e) I reckon that in your view she can only be the star when she bares all, or has to do naked performances by all means as being the star. I disagree f) the calls are where the money comes in, thus they never will give up a single minute on that (suggest you to check how and where SHE gets her money from, I am sure you will change your mind immediately) with all due respect sincerely / slow |
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vogue wrote:space6969 wrote:there are good shows by several girls without people telling them exactly what to do. I can see the situation from both ends. Roshana came on stage and start answering calls. From the point of view other customers watching girl while her all concentration is devoted to calling customer, start be very soon boring. Than came my message about technical problems with calling from handy - but I did not aked her for help, I just wanted tell her that I could not call her as I promised. I asked technical group of ETV for help by mail, but they were - like always - slow and unable. Only after Roshana tell something about the problem responding my message, came Kristina into studio and blame me for uncorect number in my account - I was trying change this number every few minutes, I should write the number in the form in what ETV will get it from that austrian number, and I did not know, if it should include also long distance code for Austria, which is the same for all word, I was calling all evening the same number and it was busy. But let us return to the Roshana's show. I can agree with space6969, that the first part of the exclusive show was boring for all viewers except calling customer. If Roshana's concentration would stay on the show, she would noticed it also herself. Her excuse that she was alone and there were almost no messages we can take into account, but she is realy very good so I think that only one message will do the best for the show: Roshana, it is boring, do something. I do believe that she does not need messages like go topless, lay down for few minutes and do some exercises, wait for suitable music, go closer to camera and make a fullstrip etc. She is the star, but she must be concentrated on her performance, than she is the best.She partially proved it in the second part, which was much better. This answering of icoming calls of customers could be a double-edged weapon and could kill the ETV show. The number of dissatisfied customers will grow and if ETV will not change its philosofy, they will loose their clients. As a first aid I would recommend imediately start with: for exclusive liveshow use schedule: 30 minutes answering calls,next 15 minutes put down the headphone set and make show, other 30 minutes answering calls and get some rest, other 15 minutes show without headphone set etc. And do not tell me, that for such schedule must star like Roshana have more detailed program. |
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space6969 wrote:there are good shows by several girls without people telling them exactly what to do. Can you please explain how do you know that? space6969 wrote:The "naked on the street" thing misses the point, because the girls get paid for doing "Exclusive Live Shows", or are they doing it for free ? The girls get paid as long as they get calls or receive messages. That's why some softies don't want to participate in webshows as they don't get any calls or messages. Pretty understandable, or? Regards. |
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brudgon wrote:then send a complaints mail to etv No need to tell me what to do, dude, but I did via mail and messages, with very little impact, as you can imagine. |
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Slowfox wrote:.well, complaining is your good right when you pay for something you do not get. Call it what you want, I call it a bad show or no show at all, when a girl is just sitting there in something called "Exclusive Live Show". I didn't complain to Roshana about the Olive & Tiffany show, that would make no sense to me. She also mentioned my complaint about her show. As I mentioned, there are good shows by several girls without people telling them exactly what to do. The "naked on the street" thing misses the point, because the girls get paid for doing "Exclusive Live Shows", or are they doing it for free ? If I would get paid for dancing on the street naked (very hypothetical) I would propably do it, depending on the amount. |
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space6969 wrote:Slowfox wrote:then I suggest to take your money and do better things with it, instead of wasting your time with a show you do not like, but basically get for free well, complaining is your good right when you pay for something you do not get. in this case now, where is your loss ? you did not pay and you likely did not send a message asking for a show. I see only a none fullfillment of expectations, and no obligation to comply with your desire The complaint mentioned in the show was referring to the Olive & Tiffany show. Where is the issue to accuse Roshana for that and make her explain for something which is totally beyond her knowledge and control ? putting all this together I fail to understand the point you make. and btw. there were almost no requests for a show again, where actually she was sad having received none, to get things going, and to make a good show possible. and prior your consideration of a reply. 'will you go dancing naked on the street without a reason or a return, for everybody's entertainment ?' slow |
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space6969 wrote:Don't get me wrong...I like Roshana, I think she's a really hot girl.  space6969 wrote:I just don't like the principles of ETV...then send a complaints mail to etv space6969 wrote:my right is to complain about certain things.as above 
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Slowfox wrote:then I suggest to take your money and do better things with it, instead of wasting your time with a show you do not like, but basically get for free A "show" I don't like ? As i wrote, there was no show at all, just a girl sitting in the dark. After some complaining of several viewers it was something like a show for 20 minutes or so....and I liked it. Don't get me wrong...I like Roshana, I think she's a really hot girl. I just don't like the principles of ETV...if you call this shit "Exclusive Live Show" or "Premium Live Show" you better deliver at least a tiny little bit of motivation and erotic performance. Otherwise they should call it "Bored Girl Sitting There And Waiting For Caller Money - Show" or something. Well...in fact there are good ELS shows, for example the last Gia show or Mashiara, Ammy or sometimes Kristina. Nothing to complain there... ETV is creating an illusion of love, friendship etc., in fact it's a cash cow...ok that's their right, my right is to complain about certain things. |
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space6969 wrote:A girl sitting fully clothed in the darkness and talking on the phone, from time to time a zoom on the feet, then I suggest to take your money and do better things with it, instead of wasting your time with a show you do not like, but basically get for free with all due respect slow |
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