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Telegraphically ... very boring race, many positions decided not only with teams strategies but also by the case. Honor to Hamilton, whose superiority has little or nothing with that one ... As for the beloved Ferrari and Alonso, I see the glass half full. Good start, then race anonymous, but increased overall points lead over Webber ... Earlier this season I would have signer to see Alonso with the first, at this point .... And in Italy even the most optimistic would have done the same... Instead ...!!! See you at Spa

maryna1234 wrote:in my opinion the most beautiful track!

Me too,

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... and to watch passing the cars across the Spa's Eau Rouge is one of the most exciting visions in all the season of F1.

No brakes, always full throttle!!

30 july/31 august.....

...isn't the longest pause break in the Formula 1 history ? or i wrong ?

brudgon wrote:[b]31 August, 01, 02 September 2012 BELGIUM


Race Sun 14:00

in my opinion the most beautiful track!

31 August, 01, 02 September 2012 BELGIUM Spa-Francorchamps
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Practice 1 Fri 10:00
Practice 2 Fri 14:00
Practice 3 Sat 11:00
Qualifying Sat 14:00
Race Sun 14:00

The Championship Standings of the Drivers after the GP of Hungary :

1. Fernando Alonso : 164
2. Mark Webber : 124
3. Sebastian Vettel : 122
4. Lewis Hamilton : 117
5. Kimi Räikkönen : 116
6. Nico Rosberg : 77
7. Jenson Button : 76
8. Romain Grosjean : 76
9. Sergio Perez : 47
10. Kamui Kobayashi : 33
11. Pastor Maldonado : 29
12. Michael Schumacher : 29
13. Paul di Resta : 27
14. Felipe Massa : 25
15. Bruno Senna : 24
16. Nico Hülkenberg : 19
17. Jean-Eric Vergne : 4
18. Daniel Ricciardo : 2
19. Heikki Kovalainen : 0
20. Vitaly Petrov : 0
21. Timo Glock : 0
22. Charles Pic : 0
23. Narain Karthikeyan : 0
24. Pedro de la Rosa : 0

The Championship Standings at the Constructors after the GP of Hungary :

1. Red Bull Racing : 246
2. Vodafone McLaren Mercedes : 193
3. Lotus F1 Team : 192
4. Scuderia Ferrari : 189
5. Mercedes AMG Petronas : 106
6. Sauber F1 Team : 80
7. Williams F1 Team : 53
8. Sahara Force India : 46
9. Scuderia Toro Rosso : 6
10. Caterham F1 Team : 0
11. Marussia Racing : 0
12. HRT F1 Team : 0


Kind Regards
Shaky-Schumi

Here is the result of the GP of Hungary :

1. Lewis Hamilton : McLaren : 1:41.05.503
2. Kimi Räikkönen : Lotus : + 1.032
3. Romain Grosjean : Lotus : + 10.518
4. Sebastian Vettel : Red Bull Racing : + 11.614
5. Fernando Alonso : Ferrari :+ 26.653
6. Jenson Button : McLaren : + 30.243
7. Bruno Senna : Williams : + 33.899
8. Mark Webber : Red Bull Racing : + 34.458
9. Felipe Massa : Ferrari : + 38.300
10. Nico Rosberg : Mercedes GP : + 51.200
11. Nico Hulkenberg : Force India : + 57.200
12. Paul di Resta : Force India : + 1:02.800
13. Pastor Maldonado : Williams : + 1:03.600
14. Sergio Perez : Sauber : + 1:04.400
15. Daniel Ricciardo : Toro Rosso : + 1 lap
16. Jean-Eric Vergne : Toro Rosso:+ 1 lap
18. Kamui Kobayashi : Sauber : + 2 laps
19. Vitaly Petrov : Caterham : + 2 laps
20. Charles Pic : Marussia F1 Team : + 2 laps
21. Timo Glock : Marussia F1 Team : + 3 laps
22. Pedro de la Rosa : HRT F1 Team : + 3 laps
Did Not Finish :
23. Narain Karthikeyan : HRT F1 Team :
24. Michael Schumacher : Mercedes GP :

Fastest Lap : Sebastian Vettel : 1:24.136
Pitstop Pastor Maldonado : 2 ( + 1 drive trough ..but this does not count as a pitstop !!! )
D.S.L : 14


Comment of the race :

Lewis Hamilton fended off Kimi Raikkonen to claim victory in the Hungarian Grand Prix and revitalise a title campaign that had begun to drift since McLaren's last win in Canada.
Hamilton led the majority of the race, but had a Lotus on his tail nearly all of the way.
Initially it was Romain Grosjean, who dismissed a strong challenge from Sebastian Vettel at the first corner, which allowed Jenson Button to then demote the Red Bull to fourth through Turns 2 and 3. Button (McLaren) could not match Hamilton and Grosjean's early pace, so the McLaren and Lotus pulled away in a two-car lead fight. Hamilton had it under control, although Grosjean did ramp up the pressure for a while in the middle stint of their two-stop strategies when he was on softs and the Briton had medium Pirellis. When Button made an early second of three stops, Vettel was free to start catching the leaders too, but in the end it was Raikkonen who emerged almost from nowhere to become Hamilton's main challenger.
Raikkonen had been sixth in the opening stint, then passed Fernando Alonso's Ferrari in the first stops. His strong late-stint pace on a long run on softs in his next stint then allowed him to lead for a spell and vault from fifth to second, firmly resisting team-mate Grosjean as he emerged from his final stop. Hamilton and Raikkonen were then tied together until the flag, but there was nothing the Lotus could do to pass the McLaren.
Grosjean held on to third ahead of Vettel, who made a third pitstop without losing a place and charged back to attack the Lotus on fresh softs, to no avail.
Alonso calmly protected his championship lead on a tough day for Ferrari, finishing fifth. For a while it looked like main title rival Mark Webber would trim a little from Alonso's cushion. The Australian jumped from 11th to seventh on lap one, then got ahead of Alonso at the second stops. But making a third tyre stop cost Webber and he fell to eighth.
Button's three-stop plan was also unsuccessful, as his second stop left him trapped behind Bruno Senna for a spell. He got back in front of the Brazilian in the final tyre changes then chased Alonso home in sixth.
Senna resisted Webber for seventh, delivering one of his best drives of the season on a day when his Williams team-mate Pastor Maldonado lost ground at the start then received a drive-through penalty for barging Paul di Resta's Force India aside in one of the race's few concerted passing attempts.
Felipe Massa was ninth - four places but just a few seconds behind team-mate Alonso. Nico Rosberg salvaged a point for Mercedes as his team-mate Michael Schumacher endured one of his most depressing races in Formula 1. The seven-time champion was left on the grid in an aborted initial start, joined the race from the pits, received a pitlane speeding penalty, then retired from 18th late on.

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Shaky-Schumi

sorry to say ...but i found this the most booooooring race of the season so far !

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Shaky-Schumi

Well what the Lord! Another race behind! Lag reduced! Позравляю Lewis Hamilton! I would like to note the double success of Lotus! Plan B did not work for the Button! Michael Schumacher - fatal bad luck!!!!!

Fernando Alonso 29th July 1981
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Happy Birthday to your 31st anniversary

The intrigue again! Alonso 6! The second place Romain Grosjean will only hinder the pursuers ! Therefore the Lewis good chances! Although I may be wrong as always!!!

Here is the result of the qualifying of he Hungary GP :

1. Lewis Hamilton : McLaren : 1:20.953 -
2. Romain Grosjean : Lotus : 1:21.366 + 0.413
3. Sebastian Vettel : Red Bull Racing : 1:21.416 + 0.463
4. Jenson Button : McLaren : 1:21.583 + 0.630
5. Kimi Räikkönen : Lotus : 1:21.730 + 0.777
6. Fernando Alonso : Ferrari : 1:21.844 + 0.891
7. Felipe Massa : Ferrari : 1:21.900 + 0.947
8. Pastor Maldonado : Williams : 1:21.939 + 0.986
9. Bruno Senna : Williams : 1:22.343 + 1.390
10. Nico Hulkenberg : Force India : 1:22.847 + 1.894

Q2
11. Mark Webber : Red Bull Racing : 1:21.715 + 0.762
12. Paul di Resta : Force India : 1:21.813 + 0.860
13. Nico Rosberg Mercedes GP : 1:21.895 + 0.942
14. Sergio Perez : Sauber : 1:21.895 + 0.942
15. Kamui Kobayashi : Sauber : 1:22.300 + 1.347
16. Jean-Eric Vergne : Toro Rosso : 1:22.380 + 1.427
17. Michael Schumacher : Mercedes GP : 1:22.723 + 1.770

Q1
18. Daniel Ricciardo : Toro Rosso : 1:23.250 -
19. Heikki Kovalainen : Caterham 1:23.576 + 2.623
20. Vitaly Petrov : Caterham : 1:2 :4.167 + 3.214
21. Charles Pic : Marussia F1 Team : 1:25.244 + 4.291
22. Timo Glock : Marussia F1 Team : 1:25.476 + 4.523
23. Pedro de la Rosa : HRT F1 Team : 1:25.916 + 4.963
24. Narain Karthikeyan : HRT F1 Team : 1:26.178 + 5.225

Qaul : 1:20.953
Pole : Lewis Hamilton
Rain : no

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Shaky-Schumi

Here are the results of the 3rd practice session that is just bin driven :

1. Mark Webber : Red Bull Racing : 1:21.550 -
2. Lewis Hamilton : McLaren : 1:21.643 + 0.093
3. Sebastian Vettel : Red Bull Racing : 1:21.671 + 0.121
4. Bruno Senna : Williams : 1:21.876 + 0.326
5. Fernando Alonso : Ferrari : 1:21.884 + 0.334
6. Kimi Räikkönen : Lotus : 1:21.953 + 0.403
7. Romain Grosjean : Lotus : 1:22.110 + 0.560
8. Felipe Massa : Ferrari : 1:22.136 + 0.586
9. Paul di Resta : Force India : 1:22.191 + 0.641
10. Jenson Button : McLaren : 1:22.233 + 0.683
11. Pastor Maldonado : Williams : 1:22.381 + 0.831
12. Kamui Kobayashi : Sauber : 1:22.387 + 0.837
13. Jean-Eric Vergne : Toro Rosso : 1:22.492 + 0.942
14. Nico Hulkenberg : Force India : 1:22.530 + 0.980
15. Sergio Perez : Sauber : 1:22.597 + 1.047
16. Daniel Ricciardo : Toro Rosso : 1:22.716 + 1.166
17. Michael Schumacher : Mercedes GP : 1:22.868 + 1.318
18. Nico Rosberg : Mercedes GP : 1:22.931 + 1.381
19. Heikki Kovalainen : Caterham : 1:24.036 + 2.486
20. Vitaly Petrov : Caterham : 1:24.547 + 2.997
21. Charles Pic : Marussia F1 Team : 1:25.224 + 3.674
22. Timo Glock : Marussia F1 Team : 1:25.497 + 3.947
23. Pedro de la Rosa : HRT F1 Team : 1:26.785 + 5.235
24. Narain Karthikeyan : HRT F1 Team : 1:26.898 + 5.348

Comment of the 3rd session :

Mark Webber ended Lewis Hamilton's run of fastest times in Hungarian Grand Prix practice as he beat the McLaren driver by 0.093 seconds on Saturday morning at the Hungaroring.
Hamilton denied Red Bull a one-two by squeezing in between Webber and his third-placed team-mate Sebastian Vettel. The first half of the session, when the field was still working with medium tyres, saw the Red Bulls leading the way for a spell early on, before Raikkonen went in front for Lotus and then Hamilton got in a 1m21.706s to put himself over half a second clear of the field just before the midway point. Hamilton squeezed that lap in just before the soft tyre times started to flow, with Vettel lapping in 1m21.671s to go quickest. He stayed there until team-mate Webber edged ahead by 0.121s five minutes later.
Unusually for a Saturday morning, that time stood until the end, with the only major late change being Hamilton's appearance in second place.
Bruno Senna suggested his promising Friday afternoon performance was no fluke by taking a very strong fourth for Williams.
Ferrari took its time joining the fray, then sealed fifth and eighth with Fernando Alonso and Felipe Massa. The pair sandwiched the two Lotus drivers, Raikkonen and Romain Grosjean taking sixth and seventh . Paul di Resta was ninth for Force India, with Jenson Button rounding out the top 10 in the second McLaren. Mercedes seemed to be working more on heavy fuel runs. Michael Schumacher and Nico Rosberg did not feature in the top half of the times and ended up 17th and 18th.


At 14.00 CET will be the qualifying !!!

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Shaky-Schumi