Eurotic TV - General Discussion

Watcher wrote:

Have a nice weekend, and for others not my thing but have a nice Easter

Your calendar is about 5 weeks slow .

You might want to take off your UKIP badge and remember that Orthodox Easter is tomorrow.

uk334 wrote:I recorded a couple of days of etv to see if it was worth watching it again ( Not wasting my real time watching crap ).

I take it you don't watch the recording either ...

Hey I wonder why this FREE forum does not charge CREDITS to post a thread ?

I hope 'Admin' isn't reading this .

Have a nice weekend, and for others not my thing but have a nice Easter

Your calendar is about 5 weeks slow .

I recorded a couple of days of etv to see if it was worth watching it again ( Not wasting my real time watching crap ).
Yep same old stuff, same models doing the same sitting around waiting for the minions to call.
I noticed two sets of models..

The newer models were enthusiastic some pretty some cute and just the one damn sexy one but all being eurotic in their on way.

The older 'Pretty' models who seem that to put on more clothes as the day progresses and are narcisitic enough to assume they only have to turn up at the studio, SIT around all day and receive calls and therefore money. Mostly all dressed in shorts, pants, long dresses.

Night shows are just repeat after repeat and in my view have never been sexy, just nudity at the drop of a whistle and wiggle all night.

No doubt everyone who dotes on a model is going to challenge me and everyone who got suckered into web show, premium shows and pay to make a comment on a imaginary wall will also attack me.

Hey I wonder why this FREE forum does not charge CREDITS to post a thread ?

Have a nice weekend, and for others not my thing but have a nice Easter

nighthawk wrote:...Thanks that we get saved from more comments like appeared in the last time on their wall section. To be honest I would recommend them to go back to the former way, when a wall-post cost 1 credit. First after they have made it for free all the insults of Karry spreaded out !!!

With all due respects, and as far as i know:

1. nobody insulted Karry. But read carefully what ETV said, ETV was the one who spoke worse about her.
2. Maybe you should recommend ETV what kind of posts they must censor and what not, because they had not any problem in posting all that comments about karry but they apply a very good censorship (remember they are skillful with scissors) about critical comments on the wall. So,maybe you must wonder why they allowed that. They blame the models over and over again, don´t blame the people because they have their own opinion (that dislikes to you), maybe you should blame ETV what kind of opinions they post and what not. You would like the wall at your way, without opinions that dislike to you.. what a good system paying for expressing opinions and that way avoiding critical comments!! it´s not enough the current censorship? I like your sense of freedom of expression and the special sense you give to the communication between the customers and the business they are paying. And finally a last question: a critical comment is less critical if it costs 1 credit?

You can also suggest ETV a new system for the wall: free for fans and compliments and 5 credits for complaining and critics if the comments pass the scissor filter, do you like it?
best regards.

ps.: remember the wall was lately empty with that credit system. Customers don´t usually want extra costs for a simple comment.

@cirano
Quoting parts of my comments out of context does nothing to further your argument ...
But it has been a fascinating insight and diversion from the original point.
All this sprung out of a post from [Versteckter Link - Registrierung notwendig], who has remained silent throughout.

@lucifer70
Maybe, at some point, you will answer the questions generated by [Versteckter Link - Registrierung notwendig].

@nighthawk

your kind of acting is hurrying ahead you...
Also my nose is always several yards ahead me.
[Versteckter Link - Registrierung notwendig]

I'm the second
...but you're struggling hard to earn the top spot. You can.

To be honest I would recommend them to go back to the former way, when a wall-post cost 1 credit
Me too. More, I would do the cost 5 credits. This seem to me an honest cost.

be sure they are very successful in economy. If you want take attention on the TV screen
and try to count the announcements in their "Chat-Zone".
2 per minute at least, 1 € for them. 1 hour consists of 60 minutes, and a day of 24 hours.
Thanks for your lucid explanation on the calculation of time in a day,
but in that post I was talking about the web failure, not about the tv shows.
Try again.

Hahaha...without to give any proof (picture, witness)
No picture, no witness. You can look for them by yourself.
Only a link.
[Versteckter Link - Registrierung notwendig]
Unfortunately, it's not a laughing matter.

@Wachter
The words of some authoritative "specialists" are better than mine.
So, the answers to your first two statements are directly from ETV.
The last answer was entrusted to a communication expert.

Now that depends on how you define 'a serious company'.
When the show is interesting the viewers stop calling and everybody’s watching.
It turns out that if we work for a more interesting free TV, we lose our income.
However, we don’t believe that the website is the future.
cit. Ivo (?)
[Versteckter Link - Registrierung notwendig]

Just as your view can see this as a failure, the opposing view can see a success.
A high quality of the TV production or a great development cannot be achieved
if the income is not directly linked to the quality of the program.
We realize that the internet show has not reached the level of supporting by non-TV-connected viewers yet.
cit. Ivo (?)
[Versteckter Link - Registrierung notwendig]

The state of mental incapacity in some situations it becomes permanent and reduces the sufferer to a pitiful, deluded state.
When one reaches the above state, one sees oneself as invincible ...
Your concern has been noted and flushed away in the appropriate place.
cit. Wachter (!)
[Versteckter Link - Registrierung notwendig]

cirano wrote:...
Can I proceed against them?
Only if you are in possession of your full mental faculties. : D

Well, at least I assume I am. But I seriously doubt I will succeed, there I'll better spend my money and my time for ETV

Regards
Joker

cirano wrote:Who is "we" ?
@ eigentor
We are all those who have been called "the bad guys", of course: the silent majority (not always silent) who doesn't like how etv web stuff is made.
You know us (also very well)... : D.

Of course I know you very well, your kind of acting is hurrying ahead you....

cirano wrote:and why is that evidence of anything?
@ Mr_Niceguy
I'm sorry, Mr. Niceguy, to bring to your knowledge that one evidence is you

I'm the second

cirano wrote:Well, if they squeeze those who want to be squeezed, why is it a failure?
@ Joker1305
It is an ECONOMIC FAILURE because, apart from those we're talking about, they have not been able to gain up a large base of regular customers.
It is a PROFESSIONAL FAILURE because many of their customers (including myself) did not renew the credits on their accounts and is not satisfied with the quality of the webshows.
Remember: no successful business can stand on its customers' dissatisfaction.
It is also an ETHICAL FAILURE, because their behavior towards more naive customers, is very close to the "circumvention of an incapable" which is considered a crime in European jurisdictions.

Thanks that we get saved from more comments like appeared in the last time on their wall section. To be honest I would recommend them to go back to the former way, when a wall-post cost 1 credit. First after they have made it for free all the insults of Karry spreaded out !!!
To answer the first part, be sure they are very successful in economy. If you want take attention on the TV screen and try to count the announcements in their "Chat-Zone". 2 per minute at least, 1 € for them. 1 hour consists of 60 minutes, and a day of 24 hours. Now you can calculate by yourself....
The possibilites and offers on ETV's website are a friendly gesture and attempt to fix their true friends{make it cheaper for them)and to acquire some new ones.

cirano wrote:By the way, how can you judge the quality of the shows if you aren't customer?
@ Joker1305
I'm sure even you have heard of a thing called "the web"...

Hahaha, if someone tells in the web that he jumped from the 30th floor and he has survived, without to give any proof (picture, witness),
you would jump,probably because of hearing it in a thing called "The Internet"

Very intersting questions and answers but it fits to ....

Have a nice time and Best Regards
Nighthawk

Bogdan67 wrote:Welcome

How to start a new thread? I do not know, so I am writing here. Why do girls undressing after 23 hours? The Sexy Sat-hour show breasts. Does Eurotic TV is prohibited? Why is there no toplees hour? No damage airtime?

Regards

The answer to you first question is click on liveshows and look on the right

To your other questions, I don't know why ETV makes the choice to do this, maybe because they are falling under the Austrian regulator and SexySAT does not... but then the question would become why not change regulators ... maybe they have others interest to stay where they are and showing breast isn't the most important

Welcome

How to start a new thread? I do not know, so I am writing here. Why do girls undressing after 23 hours? The Sexy Sat-hour show breasts. Does Eurotic TV is prohibited? Why is there no toplees hour? No damage airtime?

Regards

What it was for sure a great failure was the "improved ELS" for obvious reasons well commented here. I sent a comment to ETV about what would improve (for me) their "improved" ELS, but obviously they didn´t post it as i was not blaming the models but others, and that kind of critics are not posted.

I will only say it´s not defendible in any way the fact that they sistematically blame the customers who critic it´s shows because they are critical saying ridiculous things like "we don´t do porn, go to another site" or the inadmissible "you are not the customer we want" without even a little bit of self-criticism to improve, and it´s not defendible when they sistematically blame the models when the shows are not good "as we expected" (many examples, you know, Brown for sure remembers well, shamefully pointed as responsible) even they do it in advance when they know it can be not good "it will be good if the models are willing to be...." Models are responsible of the failures, and the customers are responsible if there is a bad critic or they are pointed in the wall if there is a little number of buyers (remember?) .It´s not defendible, even if you are a super ETV fan.

I believe the models should show more in the Web shows.
Like 2009,2010.
Then, the price would also be justified.
Now, this is just a rip off.

cirano wrote:< snip >
Every company has the problem not all customers are satisfied.
It's true, but no serious company never blamed their failures to its customers.
Etv however seems to completely miss the sense of self-criticism (at least publicly).

Now that depends on how you define 'a serious company'. A company can adjust its customer base to meet its business plan and remove those who are dissatisfied. They are now no longer customers.

As ETV appearantly doesn't change anything with the web shows at the moment they seem to be within their expectations.
The latest addition to Etv, the "personal script reserved show" at a cost of 90 € per hour, makes it clear
how low can be the economic expectations of ETV, on the web.
€ 90 per hour: if we remove the cost, they turn into a net profit really low...

Just as your view can see this as a failure, the opposing view can see a success. If they are happy with the returns on the current level of web show then, as long as the "personal script reserved show" meets the same standard, it will return the same income from the paying viewers ... plus 90 € from the happy script writer.

Everybody can decide himself not to spend any money on that.
Everybody in control of himself full mental faculties.
You may laugh, but an "incapable" is an incapable: is a person who is not mentally able to decide lucidly for himself.
The state of mental incapacity may sometimes also be induced, through false overtures (maybe friendship or even love).
In this case the "incapable" is no longer able to understand, by himself, if the price of Porsche or Ferrari is right or not.

When someone loses control of their mental facilities, becoming what you describe as 'an incapable', they are not aware of the situation. They carry on, happily believing themselves to be right in everything they do or say whilst those around them 'just don't understand'.
Yes, the state of mental incapacity can be induced. By many things. Infatuation, hatred, jealousy, in fact any strong emotion can do it to varying levels. In most cases this induced state is reversible and fades when the controlling influence is removed. Sadly, in some situations it becomes permanent and reduces the sufferer to a pitiful, deluded state.

Can I proceed against them?
Only if you are in possession of your full mental faculties. : D

When one reaches the above state, one sees oneself as invincible ...

Your post is very good, because you reply giving reasons for your answers.
Just a few people here do this.
You have my respect, Joker.

Of course, on some things we have different opinions... : D

Every company has the problem not all customers are satisfied.
It's true, but no serious company never blamed their failures to its customers.
Etv however seems to completely miss the sense of self-criticism (at least publicly).

As ETV appearantly doesn't change anything with the web shows at the moment they seem to be within their expectations.
The latest addition to Etv, the "personal script reserved show" at a cost of 90 € per hour, makes it clear
how low can be the economic expectations of ETV, on the web.
€ 90 per hour: if we remove the cost, they turn into a net profit really low...

Everybody can decide himself not to spend any money on that.
Everybody in control of himself full mental faculties.
You may laugh, but an "incapable" is an incapable: is a person who is not mentally able to decide lucidly for himself.
The state of mental incapacity may sometimes also be induced, through false overtures (maybe friendship or even love).
In this case the "incapable" is no longer able to understand, by himself, if the price of Porsche or Ferrari is right or not.

Can I proceed against them?
Only if you are in possession of your full mental faculties. : D