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2023 SPRINT-RACES - US GP RESULT :

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2023 DRIVERS' CHAMPIONSHIP AFTER THE FIFTH SPRINT-RACE :

1. MAX VERSTAPPEN NED RED BULL 441 points - 2023 WORLD CHAMPION

2. Sergio Perez MEX Red Bull 228 points
3. Lewis Hamilton GBR Mercedes 201 points
4. Fernando Alonso ESP Aston Martin 183 punti
5. Carlos Sainz jr. ESP Ferrari 156 points
6. Charles Leclerc MC Ferrari 151 points
7. Lando Norris GBR McLaren 141 points
8. George Russell GBR Mercedes 133 points
9. Oscar Piastri AUS McLaren 83 points
10. Pierre Gasly FRA Alpine 48 points
11. Lance Stroll CAN Aston Martin 47 points
12. Esteban Ocon FRA Alpine 44 points
13. Alexander Albon THA Williams 23 points
14. Valtteri Bottas FIN Alfa Romeo 10 points
14. Nico Hulkenberg GER Haas 9 points
16. Guanyu Zhou CHN Alfa Romeo 6 points
17. Yuki Tsunoda JPN Alpha Tauri & Kevin Magnussen DEN Haas 3 points
19. Liam Lawson NZL Alpha Tauri 2 points

2023 CONSTRUCTORS' CHAMPIONSHIP AFTER THE FIFTH SPRINT-RACE :

1. RED BULL 669 points - 2023 WORLD CHAMPIONS

2. Mercedes 334 points
3. Ferrari 307 points
4. Aston Martin 230 points
5. McLaren 224 points
6. Alpine 92 points
7. Williams 23 points
8. Alfa Romeo 16 points
9. Haas 12 points
10. Alpha Tauri 5 points

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2023 DRIVERS' CHAMPIONSHIP AFTER 18 RACES :

1. MAX VERSTAPPEN NED RED BULL 433 points - 2023 WORLD CHAMPION

2. Sergio Perez MEX Red Bull 224 points
3. Lewis Hamilton GBR Mercedes 194 points
4. Fernando Alonso ESP Aston Martin 183 points
5. Carlos Sainz jr. ESP Ferrari 153 points
6. Charles Leclerc MC Ferrari 145 points
7. Lando Norris GBR McLaren 136 points
8. George Russell GBR Mercedes 132 points
9. Oscar Piastri AUS McLaren 83 points
10. Lance Stroll CAN Aston Martin 47 points
11. Pierre Gasly FRA Alpine 46 points
12. Esteban Ocon FRA Alpine 44 points
13. Alexander Albon THA Williams 23 points
14. Valtteri Bottas FIN Alfa Romeo 10 points
14. Nico Hulkenberg GER Haas 9 points
16. Guanyu Zhou CHN Alfa Romeo 6 points
17. Yuki Tsunoda JPN Alpha Tauri & Kevin Magnussen DEN Haas 3 points
19. Liam Lawson NZL Alpha Tauri 2 points

2023 CONSTRUCTORS' CHAMPIONSHIP AFTER 18 RACES :

1. RED BULL 657 points - 2023 WORLD CHAMPIONS

2. Mercedes 326 points
3. Ferrari 298 points
4. Aston Martin 230 points
5. McLaren 219 points
6. Alpine 90 points
7. Williams 23 points
8. Alfa Romeo 16 points
9. Haas 12 points
10. Alpha Tauri 5 points

2023 DRIVERS' CHAMPIONSHIP AFTER THE FOURTH SPRINT-RACE :

1. MAX VERSTAPPEN NED RED BULL 407 points - 2023 WORLD CHAMPION

2. Sergio Perez MEX Red Bull 223 points
3. Lewis Hamilton GBR Mercedes 194 points
4. Fernando Alonso ESP Aston Martin 174 points
5. Carlos Sainz jr. ESP Ferrari 153 points
6. Charles Leclerc MC Ferrari 137 points
7. Lando Norris GBR McLaren 121 points
8. George Russell GBR Mercedes 120 points
9. Oscar Piastri AUS McLaren 65 points
10. Lance Stroll CAN Aston Martin 47 points
11. Pierre Gasly FRA Alpine 46 points
12. Esteban Ocon FRA Alpine 38 points
13. Alexander Albon THA Williams 22 points
14. Nico Hulkenberg GER Haas 9 points
15. Valtteri Bottas FIN Alfa Romeo 6 points
16. Guanyu Zhou CHN Alfa Romeo 4 points
17. Yuki Tsunoda JPN Alpha Tauri & Kevin Magnussen DEN Haas 3 points
19. Liam Lawson NZL Alpha Tauri 2 points

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2023 CONSTRUCTORS' CHAMPIONSHIP AFTER THE FOURTH SPRINT-RACE :

1. RED BULL 630 points - 2023 WORLD CHAMPIONS

2. Mercedes 314 points
3. Ferrari 290 points
4. Aston Martin 221 points
5. McLaren 186 points
6. Alpine 84 points
7. Williams 22 points
8. Haas 12 points
9. Alfa Romeo 10 points
10. Alpha Tauri 5 points

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2023 DRIVERS' CHAMPIONSHIP AFTER 17 RACES :

1. Max Verstappen NED Red Bull 400 points
2. Sergio Perez MEX Red Bull 223 points
3. Lewis Hamilton GBR Mercedes 190 points
4. Fernando Alonso SPA Aston Martin 174 points
5. Carlos Sainz jr. ESP Ferrari 150 points
6. Charles Leclerc MC Ferrari 135 points
7. George Russell GBR Mercedes & Lando Norris GBR McLaren 115 points
9. Oscar Piastri AUS McLaren 42 points
10. Lance Stroll CAN Aston Martin 47 points
11. Pierre Gasly FRA Alpine 46 points
12. Esteban Ocon FRA Alpine 38 points
13. Alexander Albon THA Williams 21 points
14. Nico Hulkenberg GER Haas 9 points
15. Valtteri Bottas FIN Alfa Romeo 6 points
16. Guanyu Zhou CHN Alfa Romeo 4 points
17. Yuki Tsunoda JPN Alpha Tauri & Kevin Magnussen DEN Haas 3 points
19. Liam Lawson NZL Alpha Tauri 2 points

2023 CONSTRUCTORS' CHAMPIONSHIP AFTER 17 RACES :

1. RED BULL 623 points - 2023 WORLD CHAMPIONS

2. Mercedes 305 points
3. Ferrari 285 points
4. Aston Martin 221 points
5. McLaren 172 points
6. Alpine 84 points
7. Williams 21 points
8. Haas 12 points
9. Alfa Romeo 10 points
10. Alpha Tauri 5 points

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2023 DRIVERS' CHAMPIONSHIP AFTER 16 RACES :

1. Max Verstappen NED Red Bull 374 points
2. Sergio Perez MEX Red Bull 223 points
3. Lewis Hamilton GBR Mercedes 180 points
4. Fernando Alonso ESP Aston Martin 170 points
5. Carlos Sainz jr. ESP Ferrari 142 points
6. Charles Leclerc MC Ferrari 123 points
7. George Russell GBR Mercedes 109 points
8. Lando Norris GBR McLaren 97 points
9. Lance Stroll CAN Aston Martin 47 points
10. Pierre Gasly FRA Alpine 45 points
11. Oscar Piastri AUS McLaren 42 points
12. Esteban Ocon FRA Alpine 36 points
13. Alexander Albon THA Williams 21 points
14. Nico Hulkenberg GER Haas 9 points
15. Valtteri Bottas FIN Alfa Romeo 6 points
16. Guanyu Zhou CHN Alfa Romeo 4 points
17. Yuki Tsunoda JPN Alpha Tauri & Kevin Magnussen DEN Haas 3 points
19. Liam Lawson NZL Alpha Tauri 2 points

2023 CONSTRUCTORS' CHAMPIONSHIP AFTER 16 RACES :

1. Red Bull 597 points
2. Mercedes 289 points
3. Ferrari 265 points
4. Aston Martin 217 points
5. McLaren 139 points
6. Alpine 81 points
7. Williams 21 points
8. Haas 12 points
9. Alfa Romeo 10 points
10. Alpha Tauri 5 points

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2023 DRIVERS' CHAMPIONSHIP AFTER 15 RACES :

1. Max Verstappen NED Red Bull 364 points
2. Sergio Perez MEX Red Bull 219 points
3. Fernando Alonso ESP Aston Martin 170 points
4. Lewis Hamilton GBR Mercedes 164 points
5. Carlos Sainz jr. ESP Ferrari 117 points
6. Charles Leclerc MC Ferrari 111 points
7. George Russell GBR Mercedes 109 points
8. Lando Norris GBR McLaren 79 points
9. Lance Stroll CAN Aston Martin 47 points
10. Pierre Gasly FRA Alpine 37 points
11. Esteban Ocon FRA Alpine & Oscar Piastri AUS McLaren 36 points
13. Alexander Albon THA Williams 21 points
14. Nico Hulkenberg GER Haas 9 points
15. Valtteri Bottas FIN Alfa Romeo 6 points
16. Guanyu Zhou CHN Alfa Romeo 4 points
17. Yuki Tsunoda JPN Alpha Tauri 3 points
18. Kevin Magnussen DEN Haas 2 points

2023 CONSTRUCTORS' CHAMPIONSHIP AFTER 15 RACES :

1. Red Bull 583 points
2. Mercedes 273 points
3. Ferrari 228 points
4. Aston Martin 217 points
5. McLaren 115 points
6. Alpine 73 points
7. Williams 21 points
8. Haas 11 points
9. Alfa Romeo 10 points
10. Alpha Tauri 3 points

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2023 DRIVERS' CHAMPIONSHIP AFTER 14 RACES :

1. Max Verstappen NED Red Bull 339 points
2. Sergio Perez MEX Red Bull 201 points
3. Fernando Alonso ESP Aston Martin 168 points
4. Lewis Hamilton GBR Mercedes 156 points
5. Carlos Sainz jr. ESP Ferrari 102 points
6. George Russell GBR Mercedes & Charles Leclerc MC Ferrari 99 points
8. Lando Norris GBR McLaren 75 points
9. Lance Stroll CAN Aston Martin 47 points
10. Pierre Gasly FRA Alpine 37 points
11. Esteban Ocon FRA Alpine & Oscar Piastri AUS McLaren 36 points
13. Alexander Albon THA Williams 15 points
14. Nico Hulkenberg GER Haas 9 points
15. Valtteri Bottas FIN Alfa Romeo 5 points
16. Guanyu Zhou CHN Alfa Romeo 4 points
17. Yuki Tsunoda JPN Alpha Tauri 3 points
18. Kevin Magnussen DEN Haas 2 points

2023 CONSTRUCTORS' CHAMPIONSHIP AFTER 14 RACES :

1. Red Bull 540 points
2. Mercedes 255 points
3. Aston Martin 215 points
4. Ferrari 201 points
5. McLaren 111 points
6. Alpine 73 points
7. Williams 15 points
8. Haas 11 points
9. Alfa Romeo 9 points
10. Alpha Tauri 3 points

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2023 DRIVERS' CHAMPIONSHIP AFTER 13 RACES :

1. Max Verstappen NED Red Bull 314 points
2. Sergio Perez MEX Red Bull 189 points
3. Fernando Alonso ESP Aston Martin 149 points
4. Lewis Hamilton GBR Mercedes 148 points
5. George Russell GBR Mercedes & Charles Leclerc MC Ferrari 99 points
7. Carlos Sainz jr. ESP Ferrari 92 points
8. Lando Norris GBR McLaren 69 points
9. Lance Stroll CAN Aston Martin 47 points
10. Esteban Ocon FRA Alpine 35 points
11. Oscar Piastri AUS McLaren 34 points
12. Pierre Gasly FRA Alpine 22 points
13. Alexander Albon THA Williams 11 points
14. Nico Hulkenberg GER Haas 9 points
15. Valtteri Bottas FIN Alfa Romeo 5 points
16. Guanyu Zhou CHN Alfa Romeo 4 points
17. Yuki Tsunoda JPN Alpha Tauri 3 points
18. Kevin Magnussen DEN Haas 2 points

2023 CONSTRUCTORS' CHAMPIONSHIP AFTER 13 RACES :

1. Red Bull 503 points
2. Mercedes 247 points
3. Aston Martin 196 points
4. Ferrari 191 points
5. McLaren 103 points
6. Alpine 57 points
7. Haas & Williams 11 points
9. Alfa Romeo 9 points
10. Alpha Tauri 3 points

SPRINT-RACE BELGIAN GP :

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2023 DRIVERS' CHAMPIONSHIP AFTER THE THIRD SPRINT-RACE :

1. Max Verstappen NED Red Bull 289 points
2. Sergio Perez MEX Red Bull 171 points
3. Fernando Alonso ESP Aston Martin 139 points
4. Lewis Hamilton GBR Mercedes 135 points
5. Carlos Sainz jr. ESP Ferrari 92 points
6. George Russell GBR Mercedes 91 points
7. Charles Leclerc MC Ferrari 84 points
8. Lando Norris GBR McLaren 63 points
9. Lance Stroll CAN Aston Martin 45 points
10. Oscar Piastri AUS McLaren 34 points
11. Esteban Ocon FRA Alpine 31 points
12. Pierre Gasly FRA Alpine 22 points
13. Alexander Albon THA Williams 11 points
14. Nico Hulkenberg GER Haas 9 points
15. Valtteri Bottas FIN Alfa Romeo 5 points
16. Guanyu Zhou CHN Alfa Romeo 4 points
17. Yuki Tsunoda JPN Alpha Tauri & Kevin Magnussen DEN Haas 2 points

2023 CONSTRUCTORS' CHAMPIONSHIP AFTER THE THIRD SPRINT-RACE :

1. Red Bull 460 points
2. Mercedes 226 points
3. Aston Martin 184 points
4. Ferrari 176 points
5. McLaren 97 points
6. Alpine 53 points
7. Haas & Williams 11 points
9. Alfa Romeo 9 points
10. Alpha Tauri 2 points

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2023 DRIVERS' CHAMPIONSHIP AFTER 12 RACES :

1. Max Verstappen NED Red Bull 281 points
2. Sergio Perez MEX Red Bull 171 points
3. Fernando Alonso ESP Aston Martin 139 points
4. Lewis Hamilton GBR Mercedes 133 points
5. George Russell GBR Mercedes 90 points
6. Carlos Sainz jr. ESP Ferrari 87 points
7. Charles Leclerc MC Ferrari 80 points
8. Lando Norris GBR McLaren 60 points
9. Lance Stroll CAN Aston Martin 45 points
10. Esteban Ocon FRA Alpine 31 points
11. Oscar Piastri AUS McLaren 27 points
12. Pierre Gasly FRA Alpine 16 points
13. Alexander Albon THA Williams 11 points
14. Nico Hulkenberg GER Haas 9 points
15. Valtteri Bottas FIN Alfa Romeo 5 points
16. Guanyu Zhou CHN Alfa Romeo 4 points
17. Yuki Tsunoda JPN Alpha Tauri & Kevin Magnussen DEN Haas 2 points

2023 CONSTRUCTORS' CHAMPIONSHIP AFTER 12 RACES :

1. Red Bull 452 points
2. Mercedes 223 points
3. Aston Martin 184 points
4. Ferrari 167 points
5. McLaren 87 points
6. Alpine 47 points
7. Haas & Williams 11 points
9. Alfa Romeo 9 points
10. Alpha Tauri 2 points

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2023 DRIVERS' CHAMPIONSHIP AFTER 11 RACES :

1. Max Verstappen NED Red Bull 255 points
2. Sergio Perez MEX Red Bull 156 points
3. Fernando Alonso ESP Aston Martin 137 points
4. Lewis Hamilton GBR Mercedes 121 points
5. Carlos Sainz jr. ESP Ferrari 83 points
6. George Russell GBR Mercedes 82 points
7. Charles Leclerc MC Ferrari 74 points
8. Lance Stroll CAN Aston Martin 44 points
9. Lando Norris GBR McLaren 42 points
10. Esteban Ocon FRA Alpine 31 points
11. Oscar Piastri AUS McLaren 17 points
12. Pierre Gasly FRA Alpine 16 points
13. Alexander Albon THA Williams 11 points
14. Nico Hulkenberg GER Haas 9 points
15. Valtteri Bottas FIN Alfa Romeo 5 points
16. Guanyu Zhou CHN Alfa Romeo 4 points
17. Yuki Tsunoda JPN Alpha Tauri & Kevin Magnussen DEN Haas 2 points

2023 CONSTRUCTORS' CHAMPIONSHIP AFTER 11 RACES :

1. Red Bull 411 points
2. Mercedes 203 points
3. Aston Martin 181 points
4. Ferrari 157 points
5. McLaren 59 points
6. Alpine 47 points
7. Haas & Williams 11 points
9. Alfa Romeo 9 points
10. Alpha Tauri 2 points

The result of the Austrian Grand Prix has changed after the Formula 1 stewards handed out a swathe of fresh penalties hours after the conclusion of the race. Max Verstappen won the race on track, even stopping with two laps to go for fresh tyres to set the fastest lap. He finished ahead of Charles Leclerc in second while Sergio Perez piloted the other Red Bull car from 15th on the grid to third. But that was not the end of the matter. Shortly after the conclusion of the race, it was announced that Aston Martin had lodged an official protest. It emerged that the stewards' policing system for track limits violations had been overwhelmed during the race. Half the grid was penalised for repeat offences, but it turned out that there should have been many more such sanctions handed. Aston Martin's protest was upheld and the stewards were tasked with poring over more than 1,200 separate incidents where drivers may have gone outside the white lines during the race. That process took hours, but the final classification has now finally been announced after 83 further lap times were deleted. 12 time penalties were handed out in total, though none of them affected the top three. One of those to get a fresh penalty was Lewis Hamilton, who had 10 seconds added to his race time. That meant he dropped a place in the final standings. His Mercedes team-mate George Russell moves up to seventh place as a result. Pierre Gasly received the only other penalty which affects the points positions. His extra 10 seconds means Lance Stroll leapfrogs him into ninth place and the Alpine man loses a point. Elsewhere, Alex Albon and Logan Sargeant received one new 10 second penalty each while Yuki Tsunoda had five second added to his time. Nyck de Vries was given two post-race penalties for a total of 15 additional seconds. The other four penalties were all given to Esteban Ocon, totally a whopping extra 30 seconds on top of his race time. It will make no difference to the championship, though, as he finished outside the points on track anyway. The FIA released a statement in which it explained the "unprecedented" scenario. And the stewards published a document of their own in which it explained why Aston Martin's protest was upheld. It read: "The protest was lodged against the accuracy of the Provisional Classification. The Stewards first considered if the protest was admissible. The Stewards determined that as it was lodged on time and complied with the requirements of Chapter 13 of the FIA International Sporting Code, it was an admissible protest. "An examination of the list of deleted lap times provided to the Stewards by Race Control, revealed that a number of track limit infringements had not previously been referred to the Stewards for potential penalty. It was determined that some of these infringements warranted a penalty that was not previously applied when the Provisional Classification was published.

2023 Austrian Grand Prix result after penalties applied :

1. Max Verstappen – Red Bull
2. Charles Leclerc – Ferrari
3. Sergio Perez – Red Bull
4. Lando Norris – McLaren
5. Fernando Alonso – Aston Martin
6. Carlos Sainz jr. – Ferrari*
7. George Russell – Mercedes
8. Lewis Hamilton – Mercedes*
9. Lance Stroll – Aston Martin
10. Pierre Gasly – Alpine*
11. Alexander Albon – Williams*
12. Zhou Guanyu – Alfa Romeo
13. Logan Sargeant – Williams*
14. Esteban Ocon – Alpine*
15. Valtteri Bottas – Alfa Romeo
16. Oscar Piastri – McLaren
17. Nyck de Vries – AlphaTauri*
18. Kevin Magnussen – Haas
10. Yuki Tsunoda – AlphaTauri*

DNF: Nico Hulkenberg

*Denotes penalty was given after the race

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2023 DRIVERS' CHAMPIONSHIP AFTER 9 RACES :

1. Max Verstappen NED Red Bull 229 points
2. Sergio Perez MEX Red Bull 148 points
3. Fernando Alonso ESP Aston Martin 129 points
4. Lewis Hamilton GBR Mercedes 108 points
5. Carlos Sainz jr. ESP Ferrari 86 points
6. Charles Leclerc MC Ferrari 72 points
7. George Russell GBR Mercedes 70 points
8. Lance Stroll CAN Aston Martin 43 points
9. Esteban Ocon FRA Alpine 31 points
10. Lando Norris GBR McLaren 22 points
11. Pierre Gasly FRA Alpine 17 points
12. Nico Hulkenberg GER Haas 9 points
13. Alexander Albon THA Williams 7 points
14. Oscar Piastri AUS McLaren & Valtteri Bottas FIN Alfa Romeo 5 points
16. Guanyu Zhou CHN Alfa Romeo 4 points
17. Yuki Tsunoda JPN Alpha Tauri & Kevin Magnussen DEN Haas 2 points

2023 CONSTRUCTORS' CHAMPIONSHIP AFTER 9 RACES :

1. Red Bull 377 points
2. Mercedes 178 points
3. Aston Martin 172 points
4. Ferrari 158 points
5. Alpine 48 points
6. McLaren 27 points
7. Haas 11 points
8. Alfa Romeo 9 points
9. Williams 7 points
10. Alpha Tauri 2 points

SECOND SPRINT RACE OF 2023 - AUSTRIA :

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2023 DRIVERS' CHAMPIONSHIP AFTER SECOND SPRINT RACE :

1. Max Verstappen NED Red Bull 203 points
2. Sergio Perez MEX Red Bull 133 points
3. Fernando Alonso ESP Aston Martin 121 points
4. Lewis Hamilton GBR Mercedes 102 points
5. Carlos Sainz jr. ESP Ferrari 74 points
6. George Russell GBR Mercedes 66 points
7. Charles Leclerc MC Ferrari 54 points
8. Lance Stroll CAN Aston Martin 42 points
9. Esteban Ocon FRA Alpine 31 points
10. Pierre Gasly FRA Alpine 15 points
11. Lando Norris GBR McLaren 12 points
12. Nico Hulkenberg GER Haas 9 points
13. Alexander Albon THA Williams 7 points
14. Oscar Piastri AUS McLaren & Valtteri Bottas FIN Alfa Romeo 5 points
16. Guanyu Zhou CHN Alfa Romeo 4 points
17. Yuki Tsunoda JPN Alpha Tauri & Kevin Magnussen DEN Haas 2 points

2023 CONSTRUCTORS' CHAMPIONSHIP AFTER SECOND SPRINT RACE :

1. Red Bull 336 points
2. Mercedes 168 points
3. Aston Martin 163 points
4. Ferrari 128 points
5. Alpine 46 points
6. McLaren 17 points
7. Haas 11 points
8. Alfa Romeo 9 points
9. Williams 7 points
10. Alpha Tauri 2 points

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2023 DRIVERS' CHAMPIONSHIP AFTER 8 RACES :

1. Max Verstappen NED Red Bull 195 points
2. Sergio Perez MEX Red Bull 126 points
3. Fernando Alonso ESP Aston Martin 117 points
4. Lewis Hamilton GBR Mercedes 102 points
5. Carlos Sainz jr. ESP Ferrari 68 points
6. George Russell GBR Mercedes 65 points
7. Charles Leclerc MC Ferrari 54 points
8. Lance Stroll CAN Aston Martin 37 points
9. Esteban Ocon FRA Alpine 29 points
10. Pierre Gasly FRA Alpine 15 points
11. Lando Norris GBR McLaren 12 points
12. Alexander Albon THA Williams 7 points
13. Nico Hulkenberg GER Haas 6 points
14. Oscar Piastri AUS McLaren & Valtteri Bottas FIN Alfa Romeo 5 points
16. Guanyu Zhou CHN Alfa Romeo 4 points
17. Yuki Tsunoda JPN Alpha Tauri & Kevin Magnussen DEN Haas 2 points

2023 CONSTRUCTORS' CHAMPIONSHIP AFTER 8 RACES :

1. Red Bull 321 points
2. Mercedes 167 points
3. Aston Martin 154 points
4. Ferrari 122 points
5. Alpine 44 points
6. McLaren 17 points
7. Alfa Romeo 9 points
8. Haas 8 points
9. Williams 7 points
10. Alpha Tauri 2 points