Formula 1 General Chat & Discussion

Incredible race, the best of the season, finally some really good fun after all the expected results of the previous races. Ricciardo a fantastic driver, the real surprise of the Formula One World Championship.

Lewis Hamilton and Kevin Magnussen will start from the pit lane after trouble during qualifying for the Hungarian Grand Prix.

Mercedes confirmed Hamilton will have to race with a new chassis, engine and gearbox due to an engine fire following a fuel leak

Magnussen meanwhile will also require a new chassis due to a Q3 crash

The Fomula One sporting regulations stipulate
- a change of chassis requires the driver to start from the pit lane.

I suggest Lewis Hamilton to go to Lourdes or Fatima during this summer break

Result of the qualifying :

1. Nico Rosberg - Mercedes GP 1:22.715
2. Sebastian Vettel - Red Bull Racing 1:23.201 +0.486
3. Valtteri Bottas - Williams 1:23.354 +0.639
4. Daniel Ricciardo - Red Bull Racing 1:23.391 +0.676
5. Fernando Alonso - Ferrari 1:23.909 +1.194
6. Felipe Massa - Williams 1:24.223 +1.508
7. Jenson Button - McLaren 1:24.294 +1.579
8. Jean-Eric Vergne - Toro Rosso 1:24.720 +2.005
9. Nico Hulkenberg - Force India 1:24.775 +2.060
10. Kevin Magnussen - McLaren - crash
Q2
11. Daniil Kvyat - Toro Rosso - 1:24.706 +1.991
12. Adrian Sutil - Sauber - 1:25.136 +2.421
13. Sergio Perez - Force India - 1:25.211 +2.496
14. Esteban Gutierrez - Sauber - 1:25.260 +2.545
15. Romain Grosjean - Lotus - 1:25.337 +2.622
16. Jules Bianchi - Marussia F1 Team - 1:27.419 +4.704
Q1
17. Kimi Räikkönen - Ferrari - 1:26.792 +4.077
18. Kamui Kobayashi - Caterham - 1:27.139 +4.424
19. Max Chilton - Marussia F1 Team - 1:27.819 +5.104
20. Marcus Ericsson - Caterham - 1:28.643 +5.928
21. Lewis Hamilton - Mercedes GP - fire
22. Pastor Maldonado - Lotus - engine problem

Qualifying Time : 1:22.715
Pole : Rosberg
Team Bat : Kamui Kobayashi > Marcus Ericsson
Grid Pos. Hamilton : 21st place

Rosberg on pole as Hamilton hits more trouble :
Nico Rosberg had a clear run to pole position for the Hungarian Grand Prix after team-mate Lewis Hamilton's Mercedes caught fire early in qualifying. Hamilton was the favourite for pole after topping all three free practice sessions, but he was eliminated just five minutes into Q1 when he stopped in the pit entry with the rear of his Mercedes ablaze thanks to a fuel leak. But although this meant Rosberg's main rival was not in contention, rain that struck at the start of Q3 made the world championship leader's task difficult.
Rosberg was the first onto the track on slick tyres with conditions worsening, but with the first corner particularly wet he slid off into the runoff area on his first flier, ruining his lap. But Kevin Magnussen, who was second on the road, also outbraked himself, hitting the tyre barrier on the outside of the corner and bringing out the red flag before anyone could set a time. When qualifying resumed after an eight-minute delay, the rain had eased and while the track was slippery, everyone opted to continue on slicks. With the track drying up, everyone went back out on slicks, with Rosberg going fastest on his second flying lap after a brief spell at the top of the times for Williams driver Valtteri Bottas. But unlike Rosberg, who stayed out and used only one set of softs in Q3, Vettel pitted for new rubber and took top spot from the Mercedes driver on his final lap. Moments later Rosberg improved, taking pole position by almost half-a-second. Vettel held onto second ahead of Bottas, the latter also opting to pit for new tyres, with Daniel Ricciardo fourth fastest. Fernando Alonso and Felipe Massa were fifth and sixth, both also having two runs in the restarted Q3 segment, with Jenson Button eighth ahead of Jean-Eric Vergne. Force India driver Nico Hulkenberg was the slowest of those to set a time in Q3 in ninth, with Magnussen classified 10th having not set a time before his crash. Daniil Kvyat was in contention for a top 10 slot, but he locked the rears at Turn 12 on his final lap in Q2 and spun, ending up 11th. Sauber driver Adrian Sutil was 12th ahead of Sergio Perez, who suffered a hydraulic leak during Q2 and could only attempt one run. Esteban Gutierrez took 14th ahead of Romain Grosjean, with Jules Bianchi ending up 16th after an excellent performance to make the second stage of qualifying. Kimi Raikkonen was a shock casuality during Q1, ending the session 17th fastest. With Hamilton and Pastor Maldonado, whose Lotus had stopped early in Q1, not running, most teams opted not to send their cars out for a second run on the basis that they only needed to finish ahead of the Caterhams and the Marussias to make the next phase. But Raikkonen was the slowest of those who did not attempt a run on soft rubber and when Bianchi put in his final lap, the Finn was relegated to the dropzone while sat in the garage. Caterham driver Kamui Kobayashi was 18th ahead of Max Chilton, who suffered a fuel pressure problem on his final run, with Marcus Ericsson slowest of those who set a lap. Hamilton was classified 21st ahead of Maldonado thanks to starting a flying lap.

Kind Regards
Shaky - Schumi

Surprise?
New problem for Hamilton.
In the Q1, Hamilton's car has caught fire.

Result of the 3rd practice session :

1. Lewis Hamilton - Mercedes GP - 1:24.048
2. Nico Rosberg - Mercedes GP - 1:24.095 +0.047
3. Sebastian Vettel - Red Bull Racing - 1:24.455 +0.407
4. Daniel Ricciardo - Red Bull Racing - 1:24.678 +0.630
5. Valtteri Bottas - Williams - 1:24.685 +0.637
6. Fernando Alonso - Ferrari - 1:24.769 +0.721
7. Kimi Räikkönen - Ferrari - 1:24.818 +0.770
8. Kevin Magnussen - McLaren - 1:24.867 +0.819
9. Jean-Eric Vergne - Toro Rosso - 1:25.162 +1.114
10. Daniil Kvyat - Toro Rosso - 1:25.170 +1.122
11. Felipe Massa - Williams - 1:25.231 +1.183
12. Jenson Button - McLaren - 1:25.468 +1.420
13. Pastor Maldonado - Lotus - 1:25.829 +1.781
14. Romain Grosjean - Lotus - 1:25.859 +1.811
15. Adrian Sutil - Sauber - 1:25.934 +1.886
16. Esteban Gutierrez - Sauber - 1:26.023 +1.975
17. Nico Hulkenberg - Force India - 1:26.035 +1.987
18. Sergio Perez - Force India - 1:26.142 +2.094
19. Kamui Kobayashi - Caterham - 1:27.560 +3.512
20. Max Chilton - Marussia F1 Team - 1:28.083 +4.035
21. Marcus Ericsson - Caterham - 1:28.605 +4.557
22. Jules Bianchi - Marussia F1 Team - 1:28.821 +4.773

Hamilton completes practice clean sweep :
Lewis Hamilton topped Saturday morning's final practice session for the Hungarian Grand Prix, making it three out of three ahead of qualifying. The Mercedes driver edged out team-mate and championship leader Nico Rosberg, with Red Bull duo Sebastian Vettel and Daniel Ricciardo finishing as the best of the rest.Hamilton posted a 1:24.048 during the late Soft tyre runs, putting him 0.047s clear of Rosberg as the chequered flag dropped. Rosberg's best time came on his third attempt, after making a mistake at Turn 12 on his opening lap. Although still a sizeable margin adrift of Hamilton, Vettel reduced the gap to four tenths of a second. Ricciardo and Williams' Valtteri Bottas – who reported improved track conditions – followed in fourth and fifth. Fernando Alonso did not post a time during the first half of the hour-long session, but immediately shot to the top of the timesheets on the Prime tyre. He ultimately fell to sixth when the field switched to the softer tyres. Kimi Räikkönen continued an encouraging weekend in seventh, ahead of McLaren rookie Kevin Magnussen. Toro Rosso drivers Jean-Éric Vergne and Daniil Kvyat rounded out the top 10 positions, with the remaining Williams and McLaren machines of Felipe Massa and Jenson Button narrowly missing out. It was two-by-two for the midfield runners, with Pastor Maldonado edging out Lotus team-mate Romain Grosjean, ahead of Sauber duo Adrian Sutil and Esteban Gutiérrez and Force India's Nico Hülkenberg and Sergio Pérez. Kamui Kobayashi placed 19th to put Caterham ahead of Marussia, although Jules Bianchi was unable to complete a lap on Options.

Kind Regards
Shaky - Schumi

Result of the 2nd practice session :

1. Lewis Hamilton - Mercedes GP - 1:24.482
2. Nico Rosberg - Mercedes GP - 1:24.720 +0.238
3. Sebastian Vettel - Red Bull Racing - 1:25.111 +0.629
4. Fernando Alonso - Ferrari - 1:25.437 +0.955
5. Kevin Magnussen - McLaren - 1:25.580 +1.098
6. Kimi Räikkönen - Ferrari - 1:25.730 +1.248
7. Daniel Ricciardo - Red Bull Racing - 1:25.983 +1.501
8. Valtteri Bottas - Williams - 1:25.999 +1.517
9. Jenson Button - McLaren - 1:26.234 +1.752
10. Felipe Massa - Williams - 1:26.402 +1.920
11. Daniil Kvyat - Toro Rosso - 1:26.689 +2.207
12. Jean-Eric Vergne - Toro Rosso - 1:26.703 +2.221
13. Nico Hulkenberg - Force India - 1:26.789 +2.307
14. Adrian Sutil - Sauber - 1:26.919 +2.437
15. Sergio Perez - Force India - 1:27.013 +2.531
16. Pastor Maldonado - Lotus - 1:27.019 +2.537
17. Romain Grosjean - Lotus - 1:27.021 +2.539
18. Esteban Gutierrez - Sauber - 1:27.480 +2.998
19. Kamui Kobayashi - Caterham - 1:28.370 +3.888
20. Jules Bianchi - Marussia F1 Team - 1:28.469 +3.987
21. Max Chilton - Marussia F1 Team - 1:28.586 +4.104
22. Marcus Ericsson - Caterham - 1:29.036 +4.554

Hamilton stays ahead in 2nd practice :
Lewis Hamilton stayed on top during second practice for the Hungarian Grand Prix, recording a best time of 1:24.482 on the Soft tyres to lead Mercedes team-mate Nico Rosberg by 0.238 seconds. Having set the pace in FP1, Hamilton continued where he left off when the pit lane re-opened, topping the early phase on the Medium compound. And when the switch to Options arrived, he remained fastest, gradually improving to the mid 1m24s to end the day just ahead of Rosberg. Although he experienced a few more wild moments behind the wheel of his Red Bull, Vettel wound up third fastest. The reigning World Champion was, however, six tenths of a second adrift of Hamilton's Silver Arrow. The Ferraris again featured near the front of the field at a circuit much less reliant on engine performance, with Fernando Alonso and Kimi Räikkönen taking fourth and sixth around McLaren's Kevin Magnussen.
Daniel Ricciardo put the second Red Bull seventh, just one hundredth clear of Valtteri Bottas' Williams. Jenson Button struggled for rear-end grip en route to ninth, while Felipe Massa, who suffered one of the session's more dramatic moments when he spun at the Turn 6/7 chicane, again rounded out the top 10. Toro Rosso team-mates Daniil Kvyat and Jean-Éric Vergne were next on the timesheets, with Force India duo Nico Hülkenberg and Sergio Pérez split by the Sauber of Adrian Sutil in positions 13 to 15. Lotus drivers Pastor Maldonado and Romain Grosjean – the latter again severely hindered by cooling issues – wound up 16th and 17th respectively, with Sauber's Esteban Gutiérrez the last of the midfield runners. Kamui Kobayashi gave Caterham the edge over Marussia, outpacing Jules Bianchi by one tenth.

Kind Regards
Shaky - Schumi

Result of the 1st practice session :

1. Lewis Hamilton - Mercedes GP - 1:25.814
2. Nico Rosberg - Mercedes GP - 1:25.997 +0.183
3. Kimi Räikkönen - Ferrari - 1:26.421 +0.607
4. Fernando Alonso - Ferrari - 1:26.872 +1.058
5. Sebastian Vettel - Red Bull Racing - 1:27.220 +1.406
6. Kevin Magnussen - McLaren - 1:27.357 +1.543
7. Jean-Eric Vergne - Toro Rosso - 1:27.683 +1.869
8. Daniel Ricciardo - Red Bull Racing - 1:27.782 +1.968
9. Jenson Button - McLaren - 1:27.804 +1.990
10. Felipe Massa - Williams - 1:27.960 +2.146
11. Esteban Gutierrez - Sauber - 1:27.967 +2.153
12. Nico Hulkenberg - Force India - 1:28.101 +2.287
13. Daniil Kvyat - Toro Rosso - 1:28.208 +2.394
14. Pastor Maldonado - Lotus - 1:28.266 +2.452
15. Valtteri Bottas - Williams - 1:28.330 +2.516
16. Sergio Perez - Force India - 1:28.376 +2.562
17. Romain Grosjean - Lotus - 1:28.593 +2.779
18. Adrian Sutil - Sauber - 1:29.025 +3.211
19. Kamui Kobayashi - Caterham - 1:30.363 +4.549
20. Marcus Ericsson - Caterham - 1:30.892 +5.078
21. Max Chilton - Marussia F1 Team - 1:31.004 +5.190
22. Jules Bianchi - Marussia F1 Team - 1:31.248 +5.434

Hamilton fastest in1st Hungaroring practice :
Lewis Hamilton set the standard as the Hungarian Grand Prix weekend got underway on Friday morning. The Mercedes driver clocked a time of 1:25.814 in the opening session to lead team-mate Nico Rosberg by 0.183 seconds. Ferrari's Kimi Räikkönen and Fernando Alonso were their nearest challengers. Fresh from his German Grand Prix triumph, which put him 14 points clear at the top of the championship standings, Rosberg controlled the early phase with Pirelli's extra set of Prime tyres. As the session developed, Rosberg and Hamilton gradually lowered their times on fresh rubber, but it was the latter – a four-time winner in Hungary – who came out on top by just under two tenths of a second. The Ferraris were the best of the rest, with Räikkönen six tenths and Alonso a full second adrift of Hamilton. Sebastian Vettel struggled with the balance of his car throughout the session, complaining that he lacked grip "everywhere". But the reigning World Champion still outpaced team-mate Daniel Ricciardo by half a second. The Red Bull pair were separated by McLaren rookie Kevin Magnussen and Toro Rosso's Jean-Éric Vergne. Jenson Button, who claimed his maiden victory at the Hungaroring eight years ago and also triumphed on his 200th race at the venue in 2011, wound up ninth, with Williams driver Felipe Massa completing the top 10. There were plenty of minor mistakes on a dusty track surface in the opening 90 minutes of action, but only Sauber's Adrian Sutil and Caterham's Marcus Ericsson suffered full-blown spins – both avoided damage.
Marussia's Max Chilton was restricted to little mileage after encountering a gearbox problem on his install lap.

Kind Regards
Shaky - Schumi

The Hungarian Grand Prix - Hungaroring (near Budapest) uninterruptedly since 1986
11th round in the championship.
only one week after the German Grand Prix, the F1 circus goes to Budapest, for the 2014 Hungarian Grand Prix. (25,26 and 27 July) Hungaroring is a permanent track, but has many characteristics of a street circuit, with tight corners and a twisty and tricky layout, where it’s difficult to overtake so strategy is especially important, because it offers a few opportunity to gain track position.
Pirelli has chosen the “White stripe - medium tyre compounds” and “Yellow stripe - soft tyre compound” for this weekend in Budapest The same combination as in China, Bahrain and Australia.
2013 winning strategy: 3 pit stops, but it seems 2 will be enough this year.
Seven times on podium: Senna and Schumacher

2011 Podium: Button(Mc Laren) – 2° Vettel and 3° Alonso.
Fastest lap: Massa – pole position : Vettel 1.19.815

2012 Podium: Hamilton (Mc Laren) – 2° Raikkonen and 3° Grosjean.
Fastest lap: Vettel – Pole position : Hamilton 1.20.953

2013 Podium: Hamilton (Mercedes) – 2° Raikkonen. and 3° Vettel
Fastest lap: Webber – pole position : Hamilton 1.19.388

the winners
4 wins: Hamilton (2007-2009-2012-2013)
2 wins: Button (2006-2011)
1 win: Raikkonen(2005) and Alonso(2003)

pole position:
4 pole: Hamilton (2007-2008-2012-2013)
2 pole: Alonso (2003-2009) and Vettel (2010-2011)
1 pole: Raikkonen (2006)

Fastest lap
3: Raikkonen(2005-2007-2008)
2: Vettel (2010-2012); Massa(2006-2011);

Podium(winner+second+third) for current pilots at Hungaring
7 (1 win +5 second +1 third) Raikkonen
4 (4+0+0) Hamilton
4 (1 +1 +2) Alonso
3 (0+1+2) Vettel
2 (2+0+0) Button
1 (0+0+1) Grosjean

Never on podium Rosberg(8 races) and Massa (10 races)
Instead. Hamilton(7 races): 4 wins and 4 pole position

8 times in the last 15 years, the poleman went on to win the race

After 23 years of absence, the Mexican GP will return in 2015 calendar.
The Mexico City major Miguel Angel Mercera confirmed that the race will take
place in October or November in the renewed "Hermanos Rodríguez" autodrome.

FORMULA 1 PIRELLI MAGYAR NAGYDÍJ 2014
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Fri 25 July 2014
Practice 1 10:00 - 11:30
Practice 2 14:00 - 15:30
Sat 26 July 2014
Practice 3 11:00 - 12:00
Qualifying 14:00
Sun 27 July 2014
Race 14:00

CONSTRUCTORS CHAMPIONSHIP AFTER 10 RACES :

1. Mercedes 366 points
2. Red Bull 188 points
3. Williams 121 points
4. Ferrari 116 points
5. Force India 98 points
6. McLaren 96 points
7. Toro Rosso 15 points
8. Lotus 8 points
9. Marussia 2 points

DRIVERS CHAMPIONSHIP AFTER 10 RACES :

1. N. Rosberg GER Mercedes 190 points
2. L. Hamilton GBR Mercedes 176 points
3. D. Ricciardo AUS Red Bull 106 points
4. F. Alonso ESP Ferrari 97 points
5. V. Bottas FIN Williams 91 points
6. S. Vettel GER Red Bull 82 points
7. N. Hulkenberg GER Force India 69 points
8. J. Button GBR McLaren 59 points
9. K. Magnussen DEN McLaren 37 points
10. F. Massa BRA Williams 30 points
11. S. Perez MEX Force India 29 points
12. K. Raikkonen FIN Ferrari 19 points
13. J. E. Vergne FRA Toro Rosso 9 points
14. R. Grosjean FRA Lotus 8 points
15. D. Kvyat RUS Toro Rosso 6 points
16. J. Bianchi FRA Marussia 2 points

Result of the German GP :

1. Nico Rosberg - Mercedes GP
2. Valtteri Bottas - Williams
3. Lewis Hamilton - Mercedes GP 1:19.908
4. Sebastian Vettel - Red Bull Racing
5. Fernando Alonso - Ferrari
6. Daniel Ricciardo - Red Bull Racing
7. Nico Hulkenberg - Force India
8. Jenson Button - McLaren
9. Kevin Magnussen - McLaren + 1 lap
10. Sergio Perez - Force India + 1 lap
11. Kimi Räikkönen - Ferrari + 1 lap
12. Pastor Maldonado - Lotus + 1 lap
13. Jean-Eric Vergne - Toro Rosso + 1 lap
14. Esteban Gutierrez - Sauber + 1 lap
15. Jules Bianchi - Marussia F1 Team + 1 lap
16. Kamui Kobayashi - Caterham + 2 laps
17. Max Chilton - Marussia F1 Team + 2 laps
18. Marcus Ericsson - Caterham + 2 laps
Did Not Finish :
19. Adrian Sutil - Sauber - spin
20. Daniil Kvyat - Toro Rosso - engine
21. Romain Grosjean - Lotus - unknown
22. Felipe Massa - Williams - crash

Fastest lap : Lewis Hamilton - Mercedes GP 1:19.908
Pitstop Adrian Sutil : DNF
Bat. 2 Teams : Nico Hulkenberg > Daniil Kvyat
Grid Pos. Jenson Button : 8th place

Rosberg cruises to German Grand Prix win :
Nico Rosberg took a comfortable victory during Sunday afternoon's German Grand Prix at Hockenheim. The Mercedes driver distanced himself from the opening lap drama to lead from start to finish, with Valtteri Bottas taking second and team-mate Lewis Hamilton delivering a fine comeback drive for third. As the lights went out, Rosberg turned his pole position grid slot into a sizeable gap by the first corner, putting him clear of a nasty collision between Williams driver Felipe Massa and McLaren's Kevin Magnussen.
The bottleneck saw Massa tipped into the air by Magnussen, putting the Brazilian out on the spot and pushing the Dane down the order. After a short Safety Car period, Rosberg mastered the race restart and quickly pulled away from Bottas, an advantage that would ultimately increase to 20 seconds by the time the chequered flag dropped. It marked Rosberg's fourth victory of the 2014 campaign, after Australia, Monaco and Austria. While Rosberg and Bottas opted for two-stop plans, Hamilton – who started 20th – conducted his fight through the field on a three-stop strategy, picking off a number of rivals during a final stint on the Super Soft tyres.
Hamilton's afternoon was not free of scares, though, the Briton making sizeable contact with Sauber's Adrian Sutil, Ferrari driver Kimi Räikkönen and former McLaren team-mate Jenson Button at the hairpin. He picked up front wing damage in his clash with Button, but it was not enough to require a change. Hamilton went on to close in on second-placed Bottas, but third proved to be his limit, with the Williams possessing enough straight line speed to fend off an attack, even with the assistance of DRS. Red Bull driver Sebastian Vettel was the next to cross the line after the podium finishers, while Ferrari's Fernando Alonso came out on top in a monumental scrap with Daniel Ricciardo for fifth position. Aside from Rosberg and Bottas, Force India's Nico Hülkenberg was the only other driver inside the top 10 to conduct a two-stop race, the German extending his 100 per cent points-scoring record for the season.
McLaren's Jenson Button took eighth, ahead of team-mate Magnussen. The Dane did well to regain his composure after clashing with Massa, an incident that required no further action from the stewards. Sergio Pérez rounded out the points for Force India, giving the team its sixth double score of the season. Räikkönen missed out in 11th, finishing eight seconds adrift of Pérez after a low key performance. In addition to Massa, Romain Grosjean, Daniil Kvyat and Adrian Sutil failed to make the finish. Grosjean's Lotus pulled off the track shortly after losing power, Kvyat was lucky to escape unharmed after his Toro Rosso dramatically caught fire and Sutil spun and stalled his Sauber at the exit of the final corner. In terms of the standings, Rosberg now holds a 14-point lead over Hamilton, with nine races remaining !

Kind Regards
Shaky - Schumi

gp Hockenheim
five-place penalty for Hamilton
he will drop to 20th in grid after Mercedes changed the gearbox on his car following a crash in qualifying.
This morning it was raining at Hockenheim