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I follow ETV for many years, I often have sent messages, and many times I talked to the girls aware that one proposed by ETV is a game of roles. But lately I see that the shows are changing in a way that I don't like it. The best models are always excluded from the shows and their efforts to please the customer are systematically destroyed by the director (whoever that is).
This week: Tia: 2 nightshow (Wednesday covered by minnows) Gia: 2 nightshow (ignored by the director and mistreated by Lace) Lia: 1 nightshow Lin: 2 nightshow Mashiara: 2 nightshow Kristina: 2 nightshow Calomira: 1 nightshow (She also ignored by the director) Scarlet: 3 nightshow (but still far from the cameras) Amy: 3 nightshow (unique and irreplaceable) Lace: 3 nightshow (like Scarlet and Amy!) Janine: 4 nightshow! Needless to say, until now, the week was not very interesting, so why ETV is keeping to follow this path? Why directors continue to destroy systematically the show? if they only seek money, not satisfy the reasonable demands of the customers is not best way. |
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Mr_Niceguy wrote:Sorry my mistake, to clarify only the first two sentences where specifically in reply to your post, the rest was more in general. I respect your first two sentences. Everyone has own tastes; but the rest is less necessary. Mr_Niceguy wrote:You did have a good point though, because noboby else this time around found it nessecary to say something about it. It's not easy to be clear I guess. (hmm good one for my new signature You are right, it's not easy to be clear. Therefore this is my suggestion, for all in general: It's would be better to avoid some arguments which should be external to this type of forum. Above all if and when some arguments are used to defend own idol. It isn't necessary. |
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@Luca
Sorry my mistake, to clarify only the first two sentences where specifically in reply to your post, the rest was more in general. You did have a good point though, because noboby else this time around found it nessecary to say something about it. It's not easy to be clear I guess. (hmm good one for my new signature  )
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Like has said Watcher, this isn't the ideal place to have this type of discussion because is very easy to generalize.
Anyway, differently from other places, in the channel etv there are women who have the possibility to make them choices* (Gia hasn't had problems, Athina was smiling during the Lace's action) and anyway they are conscious to be in an erotic channel (them workplace). *But somebody could say that sometimes the girl haven't had the possibility to make a good performance because the camera hasn't supported her. Therefore in this case we can say that the girls aren't been free in them choice...but it's also true: One's freedom stops where other's begin...but what is the freedom?... ...like you have seen, it's very simple to generalize. @ Mr Niceguy The concept of my post wasn't: 'It's right to use violence against the women'. The concept was: 'when Gia is protagonist, the situation is amplified because there is excessive fanaticism for her' I think that there is difference between these two concept. |
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because Lace once more the wish of a spectator after maltreatment show fulfilled
my comment in addition, each of such "shows"? fulfils a purpose, has a sense, a background And these are for me unambiguously representations from power actions to women Blows or castigations, also not as so-called "show" I think, in the real life the models want also not, and they should suffer it because there are such spectator´s wishes?, I think. 3-4 years ago, became sometimes marking her Body of the models with spectator´s name again abolished It was looked as mortifying of the models !!!! Properly in such a way, representations has her borders And I hope which dissociates itself ETV in future from such spectator´s wishes Nevertheless, the transmitter has got by 6 years without such representations And, nevertheless, we everybody live with enough power with ourselves |
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@Watcher
I didn't mean that it's ok to slap around your spous in private, I meant that is ok if people play SM games in private, if this turns them on althoug .... well you know how I feel about it. Sorry if my bad formulation led you to believe I'm not really a "Mr Niceguy".
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'Mr_Niceguy' raises a serious point here. I'm not sure that it is the ideal place to have this discussion but I would like to expand on it.
Domestic and cultural violence occur around the world and there are a number of campaigns to bring awareness and hopefully end the practices. But, 'Mr_Niceguy', I take a different view of your points "... women al over the world get violated and slapped around ..." "... which might open up a few peoples eyes ..." "... what people do in private is their own business ..." It is precisely because this type of abuse is usually done in private that people's eyes need to be opened. The fact that most people find it distasteful is a good thing but it needs to be shown to generate these feelings. That is why I applaud the participants and directors of the shows, whether it was their intention or not. |
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Girls have too often some problems at their eyes, this morning Cleopatra, in the past Spirit, Sabrina, and many others.
Perhaps it's time to waste that aggressive make-up and buy some not-allergic ones? |
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luca82 wrote:Moralism or too much fanaticism for Gia? I don't mean to be a nagger, but I found it equally distastefull with Athina and this would be the same with any model. I don't feel it is a matter of what the model wants or not. It goes beyond this. Consider this. Your mother got shot by a burglar and someone made a joke about it, you think it would be funny? Well same principal, women al over the world get violated and slapped around, who would consider a show based on this erotic? Has civellisation gone up from the time of the cavedweller? Again sorry if I am considered a nagger, but for me the subject wasn't closed just yet. I don't mean to start the argument all over again, but this seems to me an addition to my original post which might open up a few peoples eyes. And again, what people do in private is their own business, but this is FTA tv. |
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glassy wrote:Eurotic really need to get the studio sorted out. A sofa and a pole are not enough props for 6 or 7 models to do a good show. It looks cheap and tacky and is forcing the models to produce cheap and tacky shows. Well, I think the problem with the "cheap and tacky shows" is that some models simply don't know how to do a good show, no matter what devices they've got at hand. Count the models who can make real good use of the pole, and you know what I mean. Actually I've seen just one so far. Putting more stuff into the studio even could be contra-productive, because it might restrict the free movement of models who need much space for dancing ect. The office show is a good example - in this case, the studio is full of various equipment, but only a few models like, for instance, Calomira, Lia, and Aria understand how to make clever use of it. I remember the "bad bad girl" Calomira devastating the entire office, or Lia making weird phone calls, or Aria tenderly caressing the fax machine... Many others pretty much do the same as in the simple studio - i.e. essentially nothing. So I'm not sure if more furniture and devices in the studio would help.Frankly, I think the key to a good show is - and I repeat myself now - giving the models who really CAN do an exciting show more time and room to develop their creative ideas. Sometimes this potential is wasted by directors who disrupt an evolving performance by frequent and extensive cuts. |
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Eurotic really need to get the studio sorted out. A sofa and a pole are not enough props for 6 or 7 models to do a good show. It looks cheap and tacky and is forcing the models to produce cheap and tacky shows.
Having models stand in a line with their pants at their knees looking desperate for a call reminds me of some cheap bars I have visited on my travels through Europe and Asia. The bars would have a few girls dancing on a bar trying to get customers in or keep the ones that were there. C"mon Eurotic--the models deserve better than this and does not encourage as many calls I would think than if the studio was more suited to an erotic show. Why not make it look like a girls bedroom with a big bed plus the sofa and a mirror etc etc. Give them props to work with. Sometimes it looks as if this channel has been going for 6 months not 6 years. No wonder some models are doing less and less shifts. Goodnight all. |
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Yasmine1 wrote:Its Julia's show tonight and surprise surprise there are no chairs ...... ah, and Hans is just there for taking pictures and talking on the microphone? |
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Its Julia's show tonight and surprise surprise there are no chairs ......
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rudv wrote:There are a lot of hot models who can perform outstanding erotic performances like Calomira you're right! obviously are just our dear friends of ETV who don't want to do something more. The best models were always placed in a corner, no action, no emotion ... just bore!!! Why do five-hour show to give so little? Unfortunately, customers are becoming less and less, when they will realize that they have every opportunity to do good shows and make a lot of money? Tia, Amy, Gia, Mashiara, Scarlet, Kristina, Calomira, Lin, Vivian, what do they want more? Let the models free to express themselves and entertain clients and you will see that the show will resume flying! |
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Tarl_Cabot wrote:sam9 wrote: So what etv can give us (talk????)  gone.....of course she have an excuse ,she dont find the pleasure in etv 
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