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space6969 wrote:eigentor wrote:What I find more interesting is the fact that noone ever mentioned such an exceptional and hot show here, when everytime it is boring, Yes, thats true, and also Wilson wrote when it was a good show. But in general when reading this thread you will have to agree. |
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eigentor wrote:What I find more interesting is the fact that noone ever mentioned such an exceptional and hot show here, when everytime it is boring, Just looked at the preview lo-res stream of Claudia/Kristina Premium Hour and it seems to be a damn hot show. Should've logged in... And I wrote earlier that Gia imo delivered some of the best shows (ok, some of the worst also) and that Mashi imo reached a continious high level of eroticism on Premium Hours (and former ELS). That's not negative and no complaining... |
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Then you all watching the wrong camsites. At camfuze.com and cam4.com i have never had seen such guys. They are mostly the models say they don´t undress because of no tokens or they don´t want.
And in any Websites is written, you can undress and play with yourself or not. There is no must or they get forced. This it what i see. MFC is too big for me. To much girls....  
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Chris26 wrote:space6969 wrote:Some viewers got sucked in by the illusion of friendship. In some cases, propably not this one, because slow is not a Nancy fan. Obviously different people have different thoughts about where pornography begins. What I find more interesting is the fact that noone ever mentioned such an exceptional and hot show here, when everytime it is boring, this thread is brimming over with complaints. |
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wolf1 wrote:AGINULFO wrote:Slowfox wrote:brokingbull wrote:AGINULFO wrote:Slow wrote on etv wall: This discussion reminds me to the problems of Oswalt Kolle in the late 60ies - a lot of people not happy about this pure "hardcore porn" ! Today the most of us have changed the opinion about what is porn .... the most ... ! I remember a lot scenes this way during normal ETV show in freeTV ... dirty, dirty really ! But we must have respect - every generation has own view of the pu**y ! 
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But still anybody thinks that anyone visiting this WEBS or watching erotic programs is looking for something different than Erotic stuff.
It reminds me when wife gets her husband with Playboy or similar magazine and tells her “he bought the magazine because of wonderful reports.” Could you imagine this people writing a letter to Playboy saying please stop placing this pictures because sometime it is nearly pornographic.. Let´s be serious… |
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space6969 wrote:Some viewers got sucked in by the illusion of friendship. This, in my opinion, is, curiously enough, very true, in some cases. If you think about it, MFC (MyFreeCams) has the same "problem" and the same "who cares as long as we get money" by their owners. Models start "normally" (and by "normal" I mean "how it would be expected on a porn cam site"), getting tips/group shows/private shows to perform, and such. After a while, some of them get a member (you can call him however you want: white knight, pimp, rich lonely guy, member, your call) who continuosly tip them humongous amounts of money every time they're online, to do nothing at all. Some take it to the extreme, effectively asking them not to do naked stuff, not to compromise themselves, blablabla. I remember a case in which a model had created a "tip war", asking people in the room to tip for the "Go naked" faction or the "Don't go naked" faction; basically, every time the "Go naked" faction got the lead, a member (the "white knight, pimp, rich lonely guy" of the case) would tip the difference and more, and in the end the "Don't go naked" front won. If, again, you think about it, there are such cases on ETV too, models who basically have no need to do anything (or to do a lot) as they're always on the phone with "regulars" (a term borrowed by MFC, pardon me). ETV (rightly so, in this case), doesn't care, because money is money. |
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AGINULFO wrote:Slowfox wrote:brokingbull wrote:AGINULFO wrote:Slow wrote on etv wall: I wish it would on the Verge to be pornographic that would finaly a Reason for me to watch it. |
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Slowfox wrote:brokingbull wrote:AGINULFO wrote:Slow wrote on etv wall: I seemed to understand that your concept of eroticism does not include the exposure of the naked body. I respect your thoughts even if they do not agree with them. But I find it really ridiculous to speak of "ON THE VERGE TO BE PORNOGRAPHIC" ... |
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Slowfox wrote:but thanks to the smart one copying the messages originally posted to the etv wall, to have some food for the very same complaints, of the very same people, as to keep them busy. Slow I am sure you are familiar to the following "Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?" Or in a more common English "first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye." |
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fcn2011 wrote:I discussed with a lots of guys about the show and even the Fans of Nancy said that is was a Storm in the Waterglass. Everyone including the guys that posted on the ETV wall know that there is never anything close to pornography on ETV nowadays. Some viewers got sucked in by the illusion of friendship. They think some of the models (and propably staffers too) are their friends. They don't want a horde of horny bastards to see their "friends" naked. Yeah, Gia's burqa show kinda sucked......well, it's Gia, dude, you never know what will happen. She delivered some of the best Premium Hours/former ELS and some of the worst. I don't think ETV/money etc. has to do anything with this, it's just her personality. The only model who reached a continious high level of eroticism on Premium Hours (and former ELS) is Mashiara. But that's just my opinion... |
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brokingbull wrote:AGINULFO wrote:Slow wrote on etv wall: speak up, my friend, and do not hide behind some little stars. or do I smell an offense rather then an opinion ? but thanks to the smart one copying the messages originally posted to the etv wall, to have some food for the very same complaints, of the very same people, as to keep them busy. it is getting really boring and so predictable. slow |
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fcn2011 wrote:ironboy wrote:Hi! Today, perhaps the most boring in the history of ELS, rather than torment poor Claudia could add an interesting picture, or better yet spinning, magic circle. I saw the beginning and later a couple of times I was looking, I'm sure he got a text message that could be seen reading them and certainly with someone on the phone. But why does not do anything, I do not know. so I guess that it refers only to watch all Premium, do not know if it's a good way to attract customers. |
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AGINULFO wrote:Slow wrote on etv wall: Unbelievable!  While girls are fully clothed these ***** "viewers" write such a megacrap?  
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ironboy wrote:Hi! Today, perhaps the most boring in the history of ELS, rather than torment poor Claudia could add an interesting picture, or better yet spinning, magic circle. There are two questions. Is she told to do nothing or does she really get no calls and SMS? It is a webshow, so we can´t see what really happens. |
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