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Chris26 wrote:Before intervening maybe you should tell the whole forum in public what you just wrote in private to some member, hm? everyone with a short time memory can read my post [hidden link - please register] and yes, the post was in public and the PM was the same content. but while asking for this it seems that the [hidden link - please register] and especially the text at the end could be helpful for you, too. enjoy reading. 
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Tarl_Cabot wrote:if this personal battle continues this way you both will get a New Years Eve time out. Before intervening maybe you should tell the whole forum in public what you just wrote in private to some member, hm? |
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if this personal battle continues this way you both will get a New Years Eve time out.
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Watcher wrote:Chris26 wrote:robert wrote:Telephone still rules. There is no way that these sort of figures can be reached by SMS alone. The ability to hold a conversation is as important as getting naked. Not my problem, I wasn't asking you specifically anyway. |
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Chris26 wrote:robert wrote:Telephone still rules. There is no way that these sort of figures can be reached by SMS alone. The ability to hold a conversation is as important as getting naked. Please try a different translator. I cannot see a link between the quote and you question. |
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robert wrote:Telephone still rules. There is no way that these sort of figures can be reached by SMS alone. The ability to hold a conversation is as important as getting naked. I'll launch a provocation. Why do they waste money on a live video feed, then? 
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Hello Gentlemen,
Love me or leave me, just take it or leave it, it's not that I'm needy, just need you to see me. This statement has been made by Karry's behavior including all her gangs. So, my beloved friends it was always been this way, and this is who they are: TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT. You will either hate these money maker machine for ETV or you will love them, it's not necessarily good or bad they don't mind what we as viewers really care about. Now, since a lot of stupid fetish guys who enjoy models blowing balloons or dressing boots, we the honest people will be outsider viewers. So let me suggest to all these decent members: switch your morbid love into other sweet models, like Roshana, Mahsiara and other colleagues and stop watching Karry, Ju, Eva, Brona and bunch of others like them. When one door of happiness closes, another opens, but often we look so long at the closed door that we do not see the one that has been opened for us. Very Happy New Year to you and to your beloved ones. JohnGuitar |
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In an attempt to quantify why models like Evah and Ju are still important to ETV I counted the time that Evah was not on the phone over 2 weeks of ELS.
Friday 21st - no Premier show so the full 3 hours. Busy from the start but 10 minute lull half way.15 minute break but the rest busy. So: 180-10-15-5 (for changeovers) + 10 (minimum number of SMS received) = 160 credits Friday 28th - Premier show so only 2 hours 15 minutes but it overran by 10 minutes to finish a conversation. Slow start so first 10 minutes free then busy throughout. No breaks but more changeovers. Similar number of SMS. So 145-10-10+10 = 135 credits There were no overheads with either show. Evah was in a dark corner of the room with one static camera and no director. Even the remote control was considered too much trouble. My thoughts: Telephone still rules. There is no way that these sort of figures can be reached by SMS alone. The ability to hold a conversation is as important as getting naked. I wonder where these sort of figures would rank in revenue terms amongst a list of Premium Shows remembering the lack of overheads. I wonder how much Evah will see of this revenue. Evah is still hot. |
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All of this makes me wonder if Karry actually has some sort of "power" in influencing the shows she is in. After all, in the thursday shows she is directing also usually hot models make far worse shows than their standards.
So it would appear as she is exerciting some sort of "I show you my pussy only if it's a show I created, and when I'm in someone else's show I don't want anybody else to overshadow me." Sort of like a high-class courtesan that is too élite for the normal viewers.  It is pure speculation, of course, but the coincidences are astonishing. If, like I've been told, we didn't see fully naked models until 21.40-21.45 and there were only some bare breasts here and there, it makes me wonder what people paid 10 credits for in the first 105 minutes. To see a bunch of partying girls drinking? I think they should pay the viewers for that. From what I've seen, the show was definitely not worth those 10 credits and probably you'd be better off going there in person and entering a random club and you would see the same action (and the same amount of nakedness, given the show) for far less than 15€. I'm curious to ask whether people who complain here also made sure to complain during the show, maybe they should also ask for a refund, and I'm also curious to see if they will post only positive comments in the wall as usual. With hindsight, these are all curiosities that are automatically answered.
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imaginator55 wrote:I totally agree, this show was absolute crap. Seeing an announcement of a party with many "hot" models, I expected to see eroticism, skin, hot partying. What I got was endless extremely soft play, with the most horrible music I ever heard, the main camera out of focus and producing jerky video with perhaps 5 frames per second (perhaps this was even intended as part of the artwork) and a first bare breast perhaps 1.5 hours after the start. It looked as if 10 minutes before the end the girls suddenly realized that at least some of the paying viewers could be interested in seeing them naked so quicker than the cameras could catch it most of them lost their clothes. By then I was so pissed and turned off that I could not enjoy it anymore. I was particularly disappointed about Karry.I have seen her undress in premium shows but tonight she did nothing. thanks for your information. Another bad critic of the show, not my imagination. About Karry, you know she only undress when she is the star or co-star and when she is in a show made for her, her credit ratio today was very low (11-12 models/10 credits is less than one credit per model), and as you know she only undress for 4 or more. Yes, her nudity is expensive. Likely she was forced to join this show, and this is the result. Anyway she does nothing in night shows and els too, so it´s nothing new. the exception is Karry performing something hot, even paying for it, the usual thing is finding her walking through the studio like a hollywood star diva doing nothing but touching her hair and ruining all the shows she is in. |
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I totally agree, this show was absolute crap. Seeing an announcement of a party with many "hot" models, I expected to see eroticism, skin, hot partying. What I got was endless extremely soft play, with the most horrible music I ever heard, the main camera out of focus and producing jerky video with perhaps 5 frames per second (perhaps this was even intended as part of the artwork) and a first bare breast perhaps 1.5 hours after the start. It looked as if 10 minutes before the end the girls suddenly realized that at least some of the paying viewers could be interested in seeing them naked so quicker than the cameras could catch it most of them lost their clothes. By then I was so pissed and turned off that I could not enjoy it anymore. I was particularly disappointed about Karry.I have seen her undress in premium shows but tonight she did nothing.
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LeahLuv wrote:@WILSONSAND, thank you for your kind post. i didn´t say "fanboys" are not potential customers, in fact, i tried to say they are the main customers, and ETV is destroying all erotic shows because the choice of this public target. It´s their choice, but i think it´s a wrong choice. Maybe ETv gets easy money from them, but regardless of it, the fact is the shows are everyday worse and i think the customers everyday less. The other day they cried about one show with only a little buyers, remember? and what is their strategy to win back that lost customers? accuse them of not having a good taste or criteria and not offering the show in the video section. Like a 5 years old child behaviour. Finally, everybody is free to spend his money the way he wants, of course. And you are right, they are paying what we are seing: this horrible and unwatchable shows (Karry´s thursdays shows, for example). But when there is a premium show, they don´t pay the show for me, i pay it if i am interested. So i don´t think i must be grateful to them, sorry, because they are supporting a non-erotic or a stupid (sorry, but i have no words for inflating balloons or stepping cushions shows)-erotic kind of shows, that moved me away from night shows so long time ago and are moving a lot of people definitely away of ETV. |
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@WILSONSAND,
In some things you are right, but the"fanboys" are potential customers too. So it can be that Etv thinking: We want making shows for them,because they are willing to pay and they will following their model the whole year through. Even if the shows are getting worse. I can´t blame them,because they must make the money.All we can do is ignore them if we doesn´t like it. And btw. fanboys always sounds negative, but it doesn´t have to be. I think there are many/or some of them who like that particular girl and just want to talk with here after a hard working day,just for fun. Nothing wrong with that. And don´t forget,they paying so we can seeing. Your English is very good. |
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@watcher, you don´t know what i´ve watched or not, but i can assure to you i´ve watched enough to have a valid opinion, although that opinion don´t like to you
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WILSONSAND wrote:A lot of words about shows he didn't watch, if I understood him correctly |
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