Karry - Discussion & Chat

bigboy24 wrote:You can believe there statistics or you can't there is no proof.
At least it's clear ETV want Karry in the nightshow. So she will stay I think.

And so will the insults.
I'm running low on popcorns, though.

You can believe there statistics or you can't there is no proof.
At least it's clear ETV want Karry in the nightshow. So she will stay I think.

outside wrote:So it would be interesting to know about how do they make statistic about Eliza, but this is not the appropriate place.
P.S. I didn't know about Chris post below, so it must have been some common sense.

maybe she's the cashier

So it would be interesting to know about how do they make statistic about Eliza, but this is not the appropriate place.
P.S. I didn't know about Chris post below, so it must have been some common sense.

JBGOOD wrote:form [hidden link - please register]
....Many people ... want to have Karry in the night shows and do want to talk to her during the night. That is clear to us because we see it in our statistics, which are the most accurate rating barometers. This is exactly what makes us decide when and which model is going to work...

The first time i see a clear message from ETV team...

So I think the discussion here could stop: it is not Karry ..but simply Ivo, Christine and the cahier who push her in the NS.

Yes, but keep in mind that these are the same "statistics" that make them keep Eliza in many nightshows, just to say one thing.

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....Many people ... want to have Karry in the night shows and do want to talk to her during the night. That is clear to us because we see it in our statistics, which are the most accurate rating barometers. This is exactly what makes us decide when and which model is going to work...

The first time i see a clear message from ETV team...

So I think the discussion here could stop: it is not Karry ..but simply Ivo, Christine and the cahier who push her in the NS.

bellerophon wrote:I have no axe to grind either pro or contra Karry, but from a purely objective point of view, if a girl gets lots of critical messages - presumably suggesting she sticks to the day job, and she is sensitive to these things to the point of letting them influence her working attitude in the studio, then surely it would be in her interests (if not in those of the etv nightshow coffers) to remove herself from the immediate firing line of the nightshows? She wouldn't be the first, nor the last.

But it's also quite fair to say that.......Our friends of ETV have always been able.....to create and to make ..." controversial figures " ..... and meanwhile to put the complete support behind them .

No matter happens ....or whatever said .....Will never change or even move.... their controversial figures ...from their Throne .

I just read on the ETV-Wall that Karry is one of the most successful models in the nightshow, so she will stay it is just a matter of money. So it is better to boycott every nightshow where Karry arrives otherwise you pay her.

I think she has some important friends in ETV and so she will stay in the nightshow unless the money don't go down very drastic or she quit because she can't stand the critics anymore. But I don't think that this will happen so just wait and see how it will go on.

By the way you can't compare Michelle with Karry. Michelle is normally doing a show that is allright for the nightshow and if she really don't want one time a real fan would say ok maybe next time. Karry never do any kind of show that is ok for the nightshow that is the problem. You can always see there is big difference between the behaviour of Karry and the other girls.

CommanderData wrote:You obviously reverse reason and result . . .

if she would have a positive working attitude, the number of critics would decrease to a "normal" level . .

Hm I don't agree with you... I remember Michelle's example : always being nice, smiling, very patient with viewers... doing nice shows, showing her great assets. For which results ? Always the same wishes and complaining from too excited viewers : show your p*** show your p***. I'm surprised she kept being so cool and not being pissed off.

All this to say that expecting something positive from viewers who only want to see pussies is for me inconvenient.

Chris26 wrote:There's a simple solution: implement a system, at least for those who send SMS from the Web: send a VIP with a request, the team asks the girl(s) if she is OK with the request. She is? The message gets aired, commented and the wish fulfilled. She isn't? The VIP is not shown and the 4 credits go back to the sender. Very simple and nobody would get dissatisfied and nobody would complain.

I agree with everything you said... But there's no chance such a (good) system would appear. First of all, I keep all my money far away from these molvanian rogues, as for sure I would never see it back.

Secondly, Karry is a major talking point of ETV. Fans, criticizers (or worse)... all this generates a lot of money. Karry doesn't fulfill wishes ? No problem, viewers just go on sending SMSs.

Slowfox wrote:

pollopollo wrote:In a night show feels Karry not good.
You can feel it formally.
Everything looks in your so forced.

Right, but you should also not forget the reason.

Actually she gets to see in the team zone quite a bunch of messages, basically with the same complaints and offenses which can be read here.

Interesting that the senders are hiding themselves behind a team message rather then sending a VIP sms.

Well, it is still her knowing the senders / writers.

Anyway, receiving constantly bad critics and being always subject to insults and offenses wouldn't improve your working attitude either, or would it ?

I certainly do not want to defend anything as job is still job, but some have a thicker skin and some don't.

Maybe, to be nice and polite can do the trick and we all may even be positively surprised.

Slow

just one simple decision quit the nightshow and there are no complaints anymore and I think there were some VIP SMS asking her to do more for the show but she only gets angry
so a team message is more than ok it's cheaper and you have said your opinion to everyone who is responsible.
Karry just do what Jessica had done or participate in the show that's it.

Some quick points to make:

- She's definitely not the only one subject to criticism, but she's the one that receives the most of it, surely it's not a cruel joke of destiny, but there has to be a reason.
- Her attitude is the main problem: in most of her shows, she refuses even wishes that she can fulfill (how many showershows has she refused one after the other in different shows?), and every time there is an excuse, narrated by either her or her colleagues (visibly embarassed): she doesn't feel OK, she's not in a good mood, etc. This is not excusable, especially when all her other colleagues work their asses off to fulfill all the wishes. Surely, some of them can get irritating at times with their answers (Ava and Irra, in my opinion, for example), but definitely not on Karry's level.
- Not to mention, she spends most of her time in pauses and when she's back in the studio she mainly sits down doing nothing. Again, inexcusable in a night show.
- People pay to complain: are they now supposed to spend even 4 credits to send a VIP to complain now?
- Criticism started because of her attitude, not the other way around: her attitude didn't start because of her criticism.

There's a simple solution: implement a system, at least for those who send SMS from the Web: send a VIP with a request, the team asks the girl(s) if she is OK with the request. She is? The message gets aired, commented and the wish fulfilled. She isn't? The VIP is not shown and the 4 credits go back to the sender. Very simple and nobody would get dissatisfied and nobody would complain.
But they're never going to do it. Guess why? They've been thriving on unfulfilled request since ages, after all.

By the way, latest lie: "I'm not doing Premium Shows anymore!"

pollopollo wrote:In a night show feels Karry not good.
You can feel it formally.
Everything looks in your so forced.

Right, but you should also not forget the reason.

Actually she gets to see in the team zone quite a bunch of messages, basically with the same complaints and offenses which can be read here.

Interesting that the senders are hiding themselves behind a team message rather then sending a VIP sms.

Well, it is still her knowing the senders / writers.

Anyway, receiving constantly bad critics and being always subject to insults and offenses wouldn't improve your working attitude either, or would it ?

I certainly do not want to defend anything as job is still job, but some have a thicker skin and some don't.

Maybe, to be nice and polite can do the trick and we all may even be positively surprised.

Slow

In a night show feels Karry not good.
You can feel it formally.
Everything looks in your so forced.

And by the way with girls like tia kristina and for example roshana thats more off a nightshow
i dont want to speak off the past because thats realy hot