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.....some news
alonso said that he want to be part of the ferrari team till the end of his career ![]()
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Shanghai circuit(Chinese GP) – First edition 2004
This circuit is similar to others designed by Tilke. There are 16 corners of varying types and two long straights. The downforce level is medium-high. Tyre: Medium(white stripe) and Soft (yellow stripe). The same combination as last year although of course all the tyres are softer and faster in this season. The track surface is smooth and not much abrasive therefore the strategy will be on two or three pit stops. Key points for tyres are the curves 1 and 13, which leads into a very long straight. The Shanghai Gran Prix is the third race of the 2013 season and Sebastian Vettel is already the leader of the championship, but due to his behavior in Sepang has fueled a lot of controversy. The three-time world champion has passed his team mate Mark Webber despite the Red Bull’s orders were " keep the positions". Team orders have always existed in the history of Formula One, because the races are an individual competition, but there is also the F1 constructors' championship that is worth a lot of money. Anyway in recent weeks, many experts have discussed the problem of the tyres. As request by FIA and FOM(Ecclestone), Pirelli has created tires that have an extremely high wear and some drivers complain because they cannot push their cars to the maximum. Now the most important thing is: “take care of the tires and do not destroy them, too soon”. The race distance is about 300 km and two pit stops mean 3 sets of tyres in every GP. The result: these tyres have a life of about 100 km. Of course doing three pit stops, tyres life becomes even shorter(75 km). Then the question is the following: money thrown to the wind and technology useless or thanks to these tyres we have races more unpredictable and less boring? kind regards |
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A little reminder for this weekend
: [hidden image - please register] Course info characteristics : Shanghai International Circuit : output low Route length : 5.451 km full throttle : 63 percent Race distance : 56 laps = 305.066 km Tire wear medium Lap record : Michael Schumacher (Ferrari) 1:32,238 minutes (2004 ) Brake wear : low Gasoline consumption : medium Friday : 1st Practice session : 04:00 - 05:30 cet 2nd Practice session :| 08:00 - 09:30 cet Saturday: 3rd Practice session : 05:00 - 06:00 cet Qualifying : 08:00 cet Sunday : Race : 09:00 cet Kind Regards Shaky-Schumi |
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f1 birthdays
29/03/1961 gary brabham former australian f1 driver[hidden image - please register] 29/03/1974 marc genè spanish f1 driver [hidden image - please register] |
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news
Sebastian Vettel has personally presented his apologies to the staff of the Red Bull team for disobeying the order of the last Grand Prix of Malaysia, when a dozen laps passed his team-mate Mark Webber who at that time was in the head. Earlier this week, the German driver has visited the team at the site of Milton Keynes in the UK in the next race in China, taking the opportunity to reiterate his mea culpa . |
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i don't like teams orders (also ferrari done in the past)
![]() f1 will be ruined by the business
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For me, both Mercedes and Red Bull have had a shameful behavior with team orders.
Rosberg has had to raise the foot not to move forward Hamilton; and Vettel, can be a great pilot but he has disappointed me as a sportsman. |
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Post: #1460 Last edited: 24.03.2013, 19:46 24.03.2013, 19:43 Re: Formula 1 General Chat & Discussion
To be honaust i'm serious dissapointed in the Team of Red Bull & Mercedes ,it's only the 2nd race ...and what is happening allready ....Team orders
.....let them race for what they are worth it ....and not ..." Nico you may not overtake Lewis " & " get Mark out of the way i'm faster " ....and don't cry like a baby !!! The season is just begon ,so let them fight each other ..without taken each other out of the race ofcourse And about Ferrari ...i can say that it was a serious gamble with keeping Alonso out for 1 more lap ....always the wrong strategy Kind Regards Shaky-Schumi |
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Niki Lauda - Living Legend now Boss in Mercedes ...
Finally the Mercedes is goin well in F1 thanks to his great experience. I'm so happy for Him, he is always in my heart just since my childhood ! So go ahead Mercedes ! This is only the new beggining, there is a lot of work to do but this is a good start. |
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Result of the race in Malaysia :
Sebastian Vettel beats Mark Webber amid team row Sebastian Vettel denied Mark Webber in a ferocious Red Bull intra-team battle to secure Malaysian Grand Prix victory. The pair were wheel to wheel repeatedly in the closing laps before Vettel broke clear - despite the team having ordered them to hold station with Webber ahead. Just behind them,team instructions were also a flashpoint between the Mercedes team-mates, before Lewis Hamilton - who had been a lead threat for a spell - led home Nico Rosberg. Fernando Alonso's bid for victory ended early, when he crashed out having sustained wing damage nudging Vettel on the opening lap. Conditions had been wet at that stage following a heavy pre-race shower. Alonso immediately passed Ferrari team-mate Felipe Massa off the line, resisted Webber's outside-line attempt and attacked Vettel for the lead, but slid lightly into the Red Bull at Turn 2 . That dislodged the Ferrari's front wing, a situation that worsened as the lap went on - though that did not stop Alonso from fending off Webber's repeated probes. Ferrari stayed out, seemingly hoping to coincide the wing change with a switch to slicks, but as Webber passed Alonso on the pits straight, the Spaniard's wing collapsed and sent him skating into the gravel and out of the race. Vettel and Webber then ran first and second, swapping positions at the pitstops as Vettel's early change to slicks proved slightly premature. Webber came under increasing pressure from Vettel in the middle of the race, while the Mercedes began catching them both. This prompted Vettel to urge the team to get Webber out of his way, but the Australian managed to rebuild a lead and Vettel found himself dropping behind the earlier-pitting Hamilton at the third pitstops. Hamilton lost pace in the next stint as he had to start saving fuel, allowing Vettel to reclaim second into the first corner. The world champion then played the early stop tactic at the fourth and final pit visit, which brought him right back onto Webber's tail when the Australian changed tyres. They grappled wheel to wheel through the first five corners for two consecutive laps, prompting frantic radio calls from a concerned Red Bull pitwall, before Vettel got decisively in front and went on to clinch another win. The Mercedes had fallen away by that stage and were involved in their own intra-team controversy. After Hamilton and Rosberg swapped places repeatedly in the DRS zones for several laps, they were ordered to hold station and save fuel and tyres, to Rosberg's clear displeasure. Ferrari had to settle for fifth with Felipe Massa, who recovered to that position after losing ground in the early stages. That place would have gone to Jenson Button had the McLaren not lost two minutes in the pits after pulling away with a loose right front wheel and having to stop in the pitlane and wait for his mechanics to retrieve the car. That was one of a wild array of pit incidents, which also included Hamilton mistakenly pulling into former team McLaren's area, both Force Indias having to retire with wheelnut issues, and Charles Pic and Jean-Eric Vergne colliding amid pitstops. Lotus claimed sixth and seventh with Romain Grosjean and Kimi Raikkonen, the latter having an uneventful afternoon that included trips off the road and a bitter battle with Sauber's Nico Hulkenberg, who took eighth. Sergio Perez was ninth for McLaren, while Vergne held off Valtteri Bottas to give Toro Rosso the final point. 1. Sebastian Vettel Red Bull 1:38:56.681 2. Mark Webber Red Bull +4.298 3. Lewis Hamilton Mercedes +12.181 4. Nico Rosberg Mercedes +12.640 5. Felipe Massa Ferrari +25.648 6. Romain Grosjean Lotus +35.564 7. Kimi Räikkönen Lotus +48.479 8. Nico Hülkenberg Sauber +53.044 9. Sergio Perez McLaren +1:12.357 10. Jean-Eric Vergne Toro Rosso +1:27.124 11. Valtteri Bottas Williams +1:28.610 12. Esteban Gutiérrez Sauber +1lap 13. Jules Bianchi Marussia +1 lap 14. Charles Pic Caterham +1 lap 15. Giedo van der Garde Caterham +1lap 16. Max Chilton Marussia +2 laps Did Not Finish : 17. Jenson Button McLaren +3 laps 18. Daniel Ricciardo Toro Rosso +5 laps 19. Pastor Maldonado Williams +11 laps 20. Adrian Sutil Force India +0 21. Paul di Resta Force India +0 22. Fernando Alonso Ferrari +0 Fastest lap : Sergio Perez - 1:39.199 Pitstop Button : DNF Bat.2 Teams : Grosjean > Perez Gr.Pos .- V. Bottas : 11th place Kind Regards Shaky-Schumi |
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constructors standing
1 Red Bull Racing-Renault 66 2 Lotus-Renault 40 3 Ferrari 40 4 Mercedes 37 5 Force India-Mercedes 10 6 Sauber-Ferrari 4 7 McLaren-Mercedes 4 8 STR-Ferrari 1 9 Williams-Renault 0 10 Marussia-Cosworth 0 11 Caterham-Renault 0 |
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drivers standings
1 Sebastian Vettel German Red Bull Racing-Renault 40 2 Kimi Räikkönen Finnish Lotus-Renault 31 3 Mark Webber Australian Red Bull Racing-Renault 26 4 Lewis Hamilton British Mercedes 25 5 Felipe Massa Brazilian Ferrari 22 6 Fernando Alonso Spanish Ferrari 18 7 Nico Rosberg German Mercedes 12 8 Romain Grosjean French Lotus-Renault 9 9 Adrian Sutil German Force India-Mercedes 6 10 Paul di Resta British Force India-Mercedes 4 11 Nico Hulkenberg German Sauber-Ferrari 4 12 Sergio Perez Mexican McLaren-Mercedes 2 13 Jenson Button British McLaren-Mercedes 2 14 Jean-Eric Vergne French STR-Ferrari 1 15 Valtteri Bottas Finnish Williams-Renault 0 16 Esteban Gutierrez Mexican Sauber-Ferrari 0 17 Jules Bianchi French Marussia-Cosworth 0 18 Charles Pic French Caterham-Renault 0 19 Giedo van der Garde Dutch Caterham-Renault 0 20 Max Chilton British Marussia-Cosworth 0 21 Daniel Ricciardo Australian STR-Ferrari 0 22 Pastor Maldonado Venezuelan Williams-Renault 0 |
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.....let them race for what they are worth it 