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juan manuel fangio maybe the best? i don't know...meanwhile his biography

Juan Manuel Fangio ( Balcarce , 24 June 1911 - Buenos Aires , 17 July 1995 ) was a racing driver Argentina . The son of Italian immigrants in Argentina, was the father of Loreto Castiglione Messer Marino in the province of Chieti and her mother Erminia Dérano of Tornareccio .
It is famous not only for his five world titles, including four consecutive victories, but above all his daring, perhaps his record of first places in relation to equity will never be equaled.
At the end will have got 24 wins and a total of 35 podiums, 29 pole positions, and a total of 48 departures from the first row, 23 fastest laps and five world titles of 1951-54-55-56-57.
He died on 17 July of 1995 , leaving an indelible memory on all fans of motor racing , was buried in the family mausoleum in the cemetery of Balcarce . His record of 5 world titles will be matched and exceeded only in 2002 and 2003, from Michael Schumacher .
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brudgon wrote:excuse for offtopic but
welcome back shaky tell us about the race....have you funny....from where you watch the race?....have you some photos about?
thanks and have a great night

Also of topic ( for ones here on the F1 )
@brudgon and too all the people who like F1 ( and motorsport) , i will write later on today the result of the game ,and i will write also my diary of 5 days of Formula1 here
But 1st i would like to Thank GenaroXP for his fantastic contribution that he did in these 5 days that i was at the F1 ...Welldone ,also a Big Thank You to brudgon for his contribution here on this topic about the historys and memories of the F1 ,circuits ,Teams and etc ...welldone also . And also my Thanks to Everyone who pushed on the thanks button of these 2 gentleman . Also Thanks to the guys/girls who wrote about me when i was Spa-Francorchamps ..and yes believe me there where some .... ....moments ...but like i sayd this will be written later on !
If you all don't mind i'm tired now ( i arived back home at 22.15u ) ,and i would like ( continue ) to watch this show before i fall asleep because there is a beautifull young woman in this show that i have missed also ...ofcourse it's this beautifull young woman who has " ia " in her name ( hopefully i can stay awake untill the end of the show , but it will be difficult because it was a early morning this morning and a special day and a long day ) So sorry everbody ...forgive me
Till later

Kind Regards
Shaky- Schumi ( 20years in Formula 1 : 1991 - 2011 )

excuse for offtopic but
welcome back shaky tell us about the race....have you funny....from where you watch the race?....have you some photos about?
thanks and have a great night

....as always genaro great job by you and for the next week i will very proud to invite mr shaky at monza circuit
meanwhile a bit of story about

The ' Autodromo Nazionale di Monza is a circuit motor located inside the International Park of Monza . It is among the race tracks the world's oldest permanent, along with Indianapolis , Brooklands and Montlhéry and is famous beyond the borders to host the Italian Grand Prix of Formula 1 organized by the ' Automobile Club of Milan almost continuously since 1922 .
In addition to the Formula 1 car on the circuit, and other categories of Lombardy is also held an annual grand prize of the World Superbike Championship .
Since 1991 , with changes to the Silverstone circuit , the track Monza is the fastest among the world championship: the current official record of the circuit has been established in tests of the Grand Prix of Italy 2004 by Rubens Barrichello at an average of 260.395 km / h.

The construction of the circuit was decided in January 1922 from the ' Automobile Club of Milan to commemorate the twenty-fifth anniversary. The company was formed SIAS (Increase Automotive Company and Sport), privately owned and chaired by Senator Silvio Crespi . Work began on May 15 and was completed in just 110 days. The first full tour of the track was crossed on July 28 by Peter Bordino and Felice Nazzaro in a Fiat 570
It was the third permanent circuit built in the world, next only to the track American of Indianapolis ( 1909 ) and the English of Brooklands ( 1907 ), which no longer exists since fallen into disuse in 1939 on the eve of World War II and finally closed in 1945 .
The preliminary draft provided a path in the shape of "eight" the length of 14 km but, due to the impact on Royal Park, it was decided instead to approve a project that uses most of the existing roads of the park is the felling of trees .
This project, drawn up by ' engineer Arturo Mercanti, then director of the Automobile Club of Milan, by the engineer by engineer Alfredo Rosselli and Piero Puricelli, provided a circuit consisting of two rings that could be used together, alternating a turn of one on a tour of the other (the finish straight was in common and, in this case, was divided into two lanes), or separately: a runway of 5,500 meters with seven road curves, and a ring of high-speed oval with two curves banked, 4,500 meters long.
In the early years, the Italian Grand Prix took place on the complete circuit of 10 km, but after the serious accident in 1928 , in which the pilot Emilio Mattresses car lost control and crashed on the finish straight in the audience crowding at the trackside spectators killing 20 and wounding over 40, were made ​​several changes to the track to reduce its speed. One of these is the Florio circuit , designed by Count Vincenzo Florio in 1935 [ citation needed ] , which combines in an original features of the Ring Road and the high-speed, interrupted by several chicanes .
The path from 1939 to 1954, with "curves of porphyry" instead of "South Bend" + Retfilo Central.
In 1939 it was rebuilt much of the track. The ring of high speed was demolished, and the track road was later changed by moving the "curve Vialone" now do not enter more than the cars on the avenue's central park, but on a new longest straight and parallel to that in above. Place as close to the pit this new straight line (called Rettifilo Central ) led to two new hairpin turns that led into the finish straight (replacing the original curve south), located at the old overpass south and paved paved , were baptized "curves of porphyry." The length of the circuit became of 6,300 meters.

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GenaroXP wrote:So I hope I have make my job good this weekend and at the next race weekend Shaky will again post the results

Good job GenaroXP !
Next race at Monza (Italy) September 11. If an italian member invites Shaky ...

Here is the official result of todays great race :

1.Sebastian Vettel : Red Bull Racing : 1:26.44.893
2.Mark Webber : Red Bull Racing : + 3.741
3.Jenson Button : McLaren : + 9.669
4.Fernando Alonso : Ferrari : + 13.022
5.Michael Schumacher : Mercedes-GP : + 47.464
6.Nico Rosberg : Mercedes-GP : + 48.674
7.Adrian Sutil : Force India : + 59.713
8.Felipe Massa : Ferrari : + 1:06.076
9.Vitaly Petrov: Lotus Renault : + 1:11.917
10.Pastor Maldonado : Williams : + 1:17.615
11.Paul di Resta : Force India : + 1:23.994
12.Kamui Kobayashi : Sauber : + 1:31.976
13.Bruno Senna : Lotus Renault : + 1:32.985
14.Jarno Trulli : Team Lotus : + 1 Round
15.Heikki Kovalainen : Team Lotus + 1 Round
16.Rubens Barrichello : Williams : + 1 Round
17.Jerome D'Ambrosio : Virgin Racing : + 1 Round
18.Timo Glock : Virgin Racing : + 1 Round
19.Vitantonio Liuzzi : HRT : + 1 Round
Did not finish
20.Sergio Perez : Sauber : unknown
21.Daniel Ricciardo : HRT : unknown
22.Lewis Hamilton : McLaren : crash
23.Sébastien Buemi : Toro Rosso : broken rear wing
24.Jaime Alguersuari : Toro Rosso : crash

Safety Car : 1
Fastest Lap : Mark Webber 1:49.883
Pitstop D'Ambrosio : 2

So I hope I have make my job good this weekend and at the next race weekend Shaky will again post the results

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Best Regards
GenaroXP

BELGIAN GRAND PRIX
1 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull Racing 1:26:44.863
2 Mark Webber Red Bull Racing 0:03.741
3 Jenson Button McLaren 0:09.669
4 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 0:13.022
5 Michael Schumacher Mercedes 0:47.464
6 Nico Rosberg Mercedes 0:48.674
7 Adrian Sutil Force India F1 0:59.713
8 Felipe Massa Ferrari 1:06.076
9 Vitaly Petrov Lotus Renault 1:11.917
10 Pastor Maldonado Williams 1:17.615

Yeahhhhh !
Seb back on TOP in Spa - unbelievable sovereign !!!! At all it is my favorite racetrack !
Michael (from behind in the starting grid) finish on 5 - well done, champ !

Pastor Maldonado has been given a five-place grid penalty after his incident with Lewis Hamilton at the end of Q2.

Maldonado was adjudged to have been at fault in the incident and will be moved back from 16th to 21st on the grid.

Hamilton was given a reprimand but receives no penalty.

These is the officail result from todays quailification :

1.Sebastian Vettel : Red Bull Racing : 1:48.298
2.Lewis Hamilton : McLaren : 1:48.730 + 0.432
3.Mark Webber : Red Bull Racing : 1:49.376 + 1.078
4.Felipe Massa : Ferrari : 1:50.256 + 1.958
5.Nico Rosberg : Mercedes-GP : 1:50.552 + 2.254
6.Jaime Alguersuari : Toro Rosso : 1:50.773 + 2.475
7.Bruno Senna : Lotus Renault : 1:51.121 + 2.823
8.Fernando Alonso : Ferrari : 1:51.251 + 2.953
9.Sergio Pérez : Sauber : 1:51.374 + 3.076
10.Vitaly Petrov : Lotus Renault : 1:52.303 + 4.005

Q2
11.Sébastien Buemi : Toro Rosso : 2:04.692 + 1.924
12.Kamui Kobayashi : Sauber : 2:04.757 + 1.989
13..enson Button : McLaren : 2:05.150 + 2.382
14.Rubens Barrichello : Williams : 2:07.349 + 4.581
15.Adrian Sutil : Force India : 2:07.777 + 5.009
16.Pastor Maldonado : Williams : 2:08.106 + 5.338
17.Heikki Kovalainen : Team Lotus : 2:08.354 + 5.586

Q1
18.Paul Di Resta : Force India : 2:07.758 + 5.945
19.Jarno Trulli : Team Lotus : 2:08.773 + 6.960
20.Timo Glock : Virgin Racing : 2:09.566 + 7.753
21.Jérôme D'Ambrosio* : Virgin Racing : 2:11.601 + 9.788
22.Vitantonio Liuzzi* : HRT : 2:11.616 + 9.803
23.Daniel Ricciardo* : HRT : 2:13.077 + 11.264
24.Michael Schumacher** : Mercedes-GP : No Time

Again a pole from Vettel what a surprise and maybe it´s possible that Hamilton will receive a penalty for an unfair maneuver against Maldonado in Q2.

*D´Ambrosio,Liuzzi & Ricciardo are not qualified for the race tomorrow because their times are to slow (over the 107% mark) but they could have a bit hope that the race-commissioners spare them how it was often in the past because when a driver has driven in one of the three free practice sessions an official time which was in this session under the 107% mark then it´s possible that the driver can nevertheless start the race.

**Michael Schumacher is fortunately qualified for the race tomorrow after his crash in Q1 and so the hope remains that it will give a happy end for him in his anniversary race.
He may start the race tomorrow because he has driven in all three free practice sessions a time which was under the 107% mark and so there´s no reason for the race-commissioners that he not may start the race.

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Best Regards
GenaroXP

So the qualifying is after 2 and a half minute in Q1 over for Michael Schumacher he lost his right back tyre and crashed his car into a wall and is out of race for the whole qualifying session

Tarl_Cabot wrote:

dazaman wrote:Its looking like it could be a wet qualification today as the last practice as plenty of water on track right now.

so we should look out for a rockin' & shakin' rain coat during this weekend.

I'm thinking a angry shaky right now as is fave his the first victim, but seems like a wheel came off

These are times of the 3rd and last practice session of this race weekend :

1.Mark Webber : Red Bull Racing : 2:08.988
2.Lewis Hamilton : McLaren : 2:09.046 + 0.058
3.Jaime Alguersuari : Toro Rosso : 2:09.931 + 0.943
4.Jenson Button : McLaren : 2:10.257 + 1.269
5.Sebastian Vettel : Red Bull Racing : 2:10.402 + 1.414
6.Sébastien Buemi : Toro Rosso : 2:10.580 + 1.592
7.Nico Rosberg : Mercedes-GP : 2:10.837 + 1.849
8.Adrian Sutil : Force India : 2:11.437 + 2.449
9.Bruno Senna : Lotus Renault : 2:11.664 + 2.676
10.Michael Schumacher : Mercedes-GP : 2:11.667 + 2.679
11.Paul Di Resta : Force India : 2:11.874 + 2.886
12.Heikki Kovalainen : Team Lotus : 2:13.036 + 4.048
13.Pastor Maldonado : Williams : 2:13.074+ 4.086
14.Kamui Kobayashi : Sauber : 2:13.182 + 4.194
15.Vitaly Petrov : Lotus Renault : 2:13.290 + 4.302
16.Rubens Barrichello : Williams : 2:13.778 + 4.790
17.Sergio Pérez : Sauber : 2:14.334 + 5.346
18.Jarno Trulli : Team Lotus : 2:14.682 + 5.694
19.Jérôme D'Ambrosio : Virgin Racing : 2:17.159 + 8.171
20.Timo Glock : Virgin Racing : 2:18.039 + 9.051
21.Daniel Ricciardo : HRT : 2:19.001 + 10.013
22.Vitantonio Liuzzi : HRT : 2:19.597 + 10.609
23.Felipe Massa : Ferrari : 2:22.454 + 13.466
24.Fernando Alonso : Ferrari : No Time

This was the 3rd and last free practice session at this race weekend (again under wet conditions) so in 80min. will follow the first highlight of this weekend.........the qualification

Source : formel1.net

Best Regards
GenaroXP

dazaman wrote:Its looking like it could be a wet qualification today as the last practice as plenty of water on track right now.

so we should look out for a rockin' & shakin' rain coat during this weekend.

Its looking like it could be a wet qualification today as the last practice as plenty of water on track right now.