Back to square one - ETV back to full censorship

Guys unless I am blind or don't understand reality as it is transmitted I am sorry to tell you that once again ETV (eUrotic.TV) is censored and we are nearly where we were a year ago.
It started Saturday with the lame and no full nudity show (any attempt by Scarlet was suppressed) Then although the day shows have no nudity haven't you noticed that the girls are fully dressed ? Sunday and Monday night shows once again no full nudity from Ashly and Amy even Lin that during the day show appeared with her slip yesterday was fully covered and just for a few seconds she has unveiled her cover ?? Not to mention that yet once again they have new stupid adds covering half of the screen (HB version).
Is this related to the change that was done in SSTV recently did the law have a deadline yo which all channels have to conform ?? Look what happened to Astro TV ??
Am I the only one noticing the wind of change in ETV ?? Its time that they will move to encryption !! I'll appreciate tour thoughts on the subject .

Yasmine1 wrote:2. My feeling about Scarlet was correct and It was not her problem to show or not last weekend but a management decision.

Scarlet is a special case, there isn't only the decision of the direction but also a personel decision, she must choice between two group: the people want to see her soft (the image of the innocent angel) and other that want to see her hard (I'm one of them).

But in general in this channel doesn't applies the censorship only for legal rules but also respect at the potential of the girl. The direction there aren't problem to leave the static background Lilian with panties down, also the camera is more present on her with zoom in that fantastic moment , the viewer doesn't call or send message for her, he want to see a pretty girl that often doesn't made the request. Final result, the wish isn't satisfied and the channel receives money with a sadistic behaviour because the direction knows that there are people that continue to send message uselessly.

@ Yasmine1
The censorship isn't a moralistic rule but a form of profit

I have promised to post my response as soon as I see a change so I do - yes last night was a terrific show and no censorship what so ever . Is it going to stay like this I am not so sure at all !!! but this doesn't say that what was aired in the last two weeks were normal and uncensored shows.

I was correct with my observation and senses ! As oppose to some members I don't have a clue what is going inside ETV and its surroundings I don't keep a log who appeared on this show or another I don't recall when a model arrived or left or how many times in a show she got naked on the other hand I just have senses and notice every small nuance in every show and in every models behavior.

1. The shows were lame in the last 2 weeks which proves that it was self imposed censorship of the channel for their own reasons (we now may know why , PPV !). Sure I don't expect a show like yesterday's show every day but last weekend it was a disaster and the daily shows beside Angelina here and there were soft, the models were mostly dressed and the shows were boring.
I am aware to ETV's instability pattern in the level of the shows changing dramatically from one day to the other (lets hope that this doesn't happen tonight) .I am also not familiar with the European censorship rules and I don't spent time googling it . I just noticed that parallel to ETV recent move Sexy sat started to be very conservative, for months Melos TV is not hot any more and the girls are only topless and the sad truth is that there are no decent liveshows channels (I don't have the UK channels) so based on the past history with changes ETV went trough (going from full nudity to nearly no-nudity and then back to nudity and finally no nudity during the day and brief nudity at night completed by full night nudity starting from 10/2009) I assumed there is a link , one has to be vigilante !!
None the less I will say this , we know ETV is testing their viewers behavior all the time they do a pretty good data mining (just recall the first censorship period which was self imposed) I am sure that also last 2 weeks shows were a test maybe for the PPV service. I.E this is the level of shows more or less we will see on TV if you want more please use your credit card
2. My feeling about Scarlet was correct and It was not her problem to show or not last weekend but a management decision.

Sorry HvB when I see such a brutal and bully attack from one member I take it personal I think I was quite civilized in my answer !!! I still stick to what I have written in my post whether someone likes it or not ! None the less I have stated that if I will be proven wrong I will admit it, unfortunately since last Friday (nearly 2 weeks ago) I don't see any reason why should I . To summarize some of those responding the way they do usually speak from a certain position. (Like in the stock exchange when a bank or a broker are trying to promote a certain paper or currency in order that the value of it will raise) . As I said before I have nothing to add and as a matter of fact it doesn't change a thing as ETV moves they way it does regardless to our posts !

Yasmine1 wrote:if you don't like it don't participate and add your comments but keep your words to yourself !

You're talking about the forum of my dreams ... unfortunately nearly the whole forum is nowadays someone not liking something ...

Yasmine1 wrote:I hope you understand , end of discussion !

The best idea since ages. I hope you stick to your own words, especially when the posts tend to become personal... like your last one.

Some forum members will still argue about this topic which I agree is dead. Last night was Monday which the shows are always pretty dire so it was no surprise at all to see such a lame outcome, I personally don't understand why they should air crap such as this and call it erotic, the day of the week should'nt effect the quality of the product.

Warcher , if you don't like it don't participate and add your comments but keep your words to yourself ! I hope you understand , end of discussion !

Isn't it about time this "arguement" was kicked into touch?

This thread is no more! It has ceased to be! It's expired and gone to meet it's maker! It's a stiff! Bereft of life, it rests in peace! If you hadn't kept repeating the 'arguement' it'd be pushing up the daisies! It's metabolic processes are now history! It's off the twig! It's kicked the bucket, it's shuffled off it's mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisibile!! THIS IS AN EX-THREAD!!

Let it go .

(Apologies to Monty Python) .

Well to the point of it going to ppv, it won't happen or prove to be profitable, remember all the talk of the show last year being toned down due to the so-called broadcast to a new american audience of a supposingly us cable channel, what a load of bullshit that turned out to be, all etv do is toy with you, yes it's fair to say the camera work wasn't the best or anywhere near to what the viewers expectations should meet but the camera work has been this way even in the hot Tia shows for months now so I would still say nothing has changed what so ever regarding any strictor whether it be laws or rules for the show.

@ Yasmine1
I totally agree with you. The only girl who can saw everything is Lilian. Why? They care only about money not about the viewers. If you see models like Lilian, marayah , amanda, eliza, lace, in the night shows understand that

davecool31. yes you are right its better than it was between March and October 2009 but it has improved and we going backwards once again. Seeing a naked Gir from the distance or her bare bottom or girls pulling haf way their slip is not what I mean fully nude - If you want examples : light version Scarlet 2 week ago friday night , Tia until 2 weeks ago, Athena just 2 weeks ago, Spirit the same (yes last nigh she was naked but watch her and the camera angel excluding the oops) . Just referring to Saturday night show its stated with a neice strip of sabrina then spirit joined and it was ignored and in addition you got the PIP (HB version) Scarlet just he bottom no front ... the same with the rest of the girls and some how when the show calmed down you didn't get the PIP. But as I said if you don't see maybe I am the only one . Its true that ETV does change from time to time but obviously this time there is a chnage . This obviously exclude Lilian !! Now I am not saying that the censorship is imposed by law but as I said in a previous post it can be because of strategy (moving to pay service etc) but the fact is there. Lets see what will happen this week.

full nudity ???????? --- with no camera where it should be and if the cameramen are scared of showing full nudity even if spirit tried to pass some but her act was not effective as the director is not allowing the scenes we are requested.
one again even the models are getting bored of this manner of changing the scene from a model to another...

Just to clarify this topic is as good as dead as 2 models last night got fully nude for the show last night, just because you don't see it for a couple of nights you automatically hit the panic button, believe me things are a lot better this year than last year now that the rules have been more or less confirmed.

logerhead wrote:...and increase the cost of calls and messages. makes sense.

I think this part is not a good idea (just my opinion).

i totally agree with you, encryption is the only way forward for this channel. i suggest the management some how convince the girls on the show that its the best way forward. but there will have to be a lot more explicit content in an encrypted show to ensure card sales.
maybe have a freeview version on until around 10, after encryption, the viewers would still have to sms or call the girls to direct them. maybe sell the card for a small amount and increase the cost of calls and messages. makes sense.