Eurotic TV - General Discussion

outside wrote:THX for that example, talking about rotten apples you have chosen the wrong guy.

Apple fans who spend the night before outside the Apple store are just fanboys, so very stupid people in my humble opinion, just the same as Tokyo Hotel or Lady Gaga fans and of course just the same as biggest ETVShow chickens AND/OR giahadists (just wait for rotten apples addicts reaction and you will have the prove).
I haven't any doubts about it, (always in my humble opinion) Samsung Galaxy (smartphone and tablet) is cheaper and far better than I-Pad and I-Phone, firstofall because it has Android as OS, that means Google technology and know how and firstofall for FREE. So google chrome, google maps, g-mail, google earth and so on.
Apple is a closed circle, Android is open and more flexible.
And what about Apple Store and Android Market? Same applications are pay at Apple, free at Android.

So it's quite clear I won't buy an Apple product ever, as I will never subscribe a ETVShow membership.

But I don't trust google further than I can throw my computer or mobile phone. Apple doesn't have Products for me (iPhone too big, iPad too small and incompatible with some of my software, Macbook only glossy displays...), so I have none of them.
Not to forget the miserable update availability for old Android phones (means older than ~6 months) because except of Nexus none have a generic Android, every manufacturer customizes so you are stuck to updates from him or you put a modified Android on it and lose the warranty.
In this respect I hope Windows 8 mobile will be usable again (and yes, I really trust M$ more than google)

Talking about ETV girls, many of them (not everyone, some of them are consistant at least) are worse than pornstars to my eyes, because pornstars at least aren't hypocrite. Pornstars are consciuos about their job and they accept honours and charges from that job.
ETVShow models want only honours, without any charges at all. They are responsible about that situation.
They act as cheapest camgirls, not nextdoor girls anymore.
Just a little example, I cannot watch Mashiara anymore because she gives me feelings of dirt and filth.

Do you think the same about Kaleya and Jaya? They even showed their pussy FTA.
Is it distorted perception with you or do you just want to tease Nighthawk?

Maybe they have a brain, but they use it just to pluck their chickens over and over again, selling them some false friendship or love and playing their pathetic part. Off the records, maybe they are the first at laughing at their chickens clucks.

Has this ever been different? Maybe your memories are a little too glorified.

Maybe they once had a soul, but they sold it. They sold even their birthday party.

Are you sure the "sold birthdays" are their real birthdays? We don't need to argue about honesty, this never was a strength of E(Urotic)TV

I know, life is hard, but some of them have realized there might be a life outside ETVShow.
Scarlet has realized about that and went away, Amy too, and they have gained my respect again. Of course until the day they would come back.

What can they buy for your respect?

Regards
Joker

outside wrote:I cannot watch Mashiara anymore because she gives me feelings of dirt and filth.

And the mask is removed. This says more about you than any of the models.

THX for that example, talking about rotten apples you have chosen the wrong guy.

Apple fans who spend the night before outside the Apple store are just fanboys, so very stupid people in my humble opinion, just the same as Tokyo Hotel or Lady Gaga fans and of course just the same as biggest ETVShow chickens AND/OR giahadists (just wait for rotten apples addicts reaction and you will have the prove).
I haven't any doubts about it, (always in my humble opinion) Samsung Galaxy (smartphone and tablet) is cheaper and far better than I-Pad and I-Phone, firstofall because it has Android as OS, that means Google technology and know how and firstofall for FREE. So google chrome, google maps, g-mail, google earth and so on.
Apple is a closed circle, Android is open and more flexible.
And what about Apple Store and Android Market? Same applications are pay at Apple, free at Android.

So it's quite clear I won't buy an Apple product ever, as I will never subscribe a ETVShow membership.


Talking about ETV girls, many of them (not everyone, some of them are consistant at least) are worse than pornstars to my eyes, because pornstars at least aren't hypocrite. Pornstars are consciuos about their job and they accept honours and charges from that job.
ETVShow models want only honours, without any charges at all. They are responsible about that situation.
They act as cheapest camgirls, not nextdoor girls anymore.
Just a little example, I cannot watch Mashiara anymore because she gives me feelings of dirt and filth.

Maybe they have a brain, but they use it just to pluck their chickens over and over again, selling them some false friendship or love and playing their pathetic part. Off the records, maybe they are the first at laughing at their chickens clucks.
Maybe they once had a soul, but they sold it. They sold even their birthday party.
I know, life is hard, but some of them have realized there might be a life outside ETVShow.
Scarlet has realized about that and went away, Amy too, and they have gained my respect again. Of course until the day they would come back.

outside wrote:Let's ask Philip Kotler how much time do such companies last on a market where competitors are cheaper and offer far more

Thanks for the hint.

If you have a unique product with the respective reputation, it will be sold very fast, as soon as the customers are experienced the brand of it. Such a company will stay on market for eternal time. The best example is Apple.
If it is an i-Phone, i-Tab or now the new mini i-Tab, fans of it spend the night in front of the store before the sale get started. Because of exsisiting other companies with products with the same skills and they are cheaper.
(SAMSUNG with their Galaxy)

To come back to ETV, their Ladies are unique,they have a heart and a soul.
They aren't anonymous porn actresses.
Not to forget they have something in their brain.

Only a short comparison and help to go back in real life.

Best Regards

HvB wrote:The name is all, if you don't have the substance to do your business without leading people to believe you are more than you are.
From the most valuable brands, only a handful makes it into the biggest companies.
I stongly disagree that it is the best measurement to evaluate a company, and for sure, it's not the only one.
But all this is totaly off topic.

Meanwhile you also can't deny by any means .....That the Name of the company ...and the quality of the final outcome ( the product ) is certainly considered one of the core elements in evaluating businesses ...Do you ?

Maybe some meaningful figures are only x * 8,90€ away...

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HvB wrote:Yes, I do.
Because to evaluate it correctly, you first need to understand. Ever seen any business analyst looking at advertisements and products, but ignoring the books?
It's a problem of our time, that people just look at the surface and think they understand.

That's why I guess people all over the world trust the Name of the companies and make their mind based on this regard …...with no real interest in figuring out the detailed information about the work environment inside the company.

That's why I guess companies all over world spent so much time building their own Name ....Because essentially the name of any company is resulting in .....from the successful outcome of their business and the amount of satisfaction between their customers ...That's what really matters .

It's all about the Name and the final outcome of the business ....That's simply the best and the only valid measurement for evaluating any reputable company .

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Just looking at the top 4
Exxon is well known for the EXXon Valdez desaster and it name stands for ecological unfriendlyness
So:
Brand value $16,419m
Revenue: $486,429m

Shell: best remembered for sinking it's used up oil plattforms
Brand value $22,022m
Revenue: $470,171m

Walmart: The place where ugly, crazy lower class people shop
Brand value $38,320m
Revenue: $446,950m

BP: well known for the Deep Water Horizon desaster
Brand value $10,222m
Revenue: $375,517m

I doubt many have ever heard about the next ones ...

Vitol
Sinopec
State Grid Corporation of China

So the name of the biggest companies in the world has a negative touch, but still they are playing in different leages from the companies with the big names.
The name is all, if you don't have the substance to do your business without leading people to believe you are more than you are.
From the most valuable brands, only a handful makes it into the biggest companies.
I stongly disagree that it is the best measurement to evaluate a company, and for sure, it's not the only one.
But all this is totaly off topic.

Watcher wrote:There are millions of customers of allegedly reputable, big name financial institutions who would consider that final statement to be laughably naive.

And I also could assure you that there are millions who would consider that your last comment ( as usual ) has definitely exceeded the limits of respect and nothing strange about that specially if the post has been signed by Watcher .

But as a different point of view other than mine I would accept it .....and I can assure you that I can live with that ....Because that's exactly what we used to get from someone like you .

zxcv wrote:

HvB wrote:Yes, I do.
Because to evaluate it correctly, you first need to understand. Ever seen any business analyst looking at advertisements and products, but ignoring the books?
It's a problem of our time, that people just look at the surface and think they understand.

That's why I guess people all over the world trust the Name of the companies and make their mind based on this regard …...with no real interest in figuring out the detailed information about the work environment inside the company.

That's why I guess companies all over world spent so much time building their own Name ....Because essentially the name of any company is resulting in .....from the successful outcome of their business and the amount of satisfaction between their customers ...That's what really matters .

It's all about the Name and the final outcome of the business ....That's simply the best and the only valid measurement for evaluating any reputable company .

That one woke me up ...

There are millions of customers of allegedly reputable, big name financial institutions who would consider that final statement to be laughably naive.

HvB wrote:Yes, I do.
Because to evaluate it correctly, you first need to understand. Ever seen any business analyst looking at advertisements and products, but ignoring the books?
It's a problem of our time, that people just look at the surface and think they understand.

That's why I guess people all over the world trust the Name of the companies and make their mind based on this regard …...with no real interest in figuring out the detailed information about the work environment inside the company.

That's why I guess companies all over world spent so much time building their own Name ....Because essentially the name of any company is resulting in .....from the successful outcome of their business and the amount of satisfaction between their customers ...That's what really matters .

It's all about the Name and the final outcome of the business ....That's simply the best and the only valid measurement for evaluating any reputable company .

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outside wrote:Neither you have answered. Just hot air from sources with less than zero reliability. People that I usually name in a certain way, the same as stated in my avatar.
It's the same.
With one little difference: it's you the one who have to give answer, I have never had any relationship with them.
It's you the one who is going under with them. I am on the river bed. Waiting.

It's true, you allready drowned in your lies. And you know very well, that whatever you answer I will show that you are lying. And thanks for confirming that you have no idea, but that your avatar is your source of information. Yep, very reliable ...and of course you have no answer to the claim in your avatar, except that you believe they are, right?

Well, it is a caracteristic of primitive societies that believe is valued higher than reserch and knowledge.

Everyone will drown in his appropriate pool.
I have my tabloid press (yellowpress as someone else named), you have your Molvanka Pravda.
People will choose which paper buy.

outside wrote:With one little difference: it's you the one who have to give answer, I have never had any relationship with them.
It's you the one who is going under with them. I am on the river bed. Waiting.

Regrettably I cannot believe in the objectivity of HVB. As usual he knows that ETV reads what he writes, and he cannot displease them to be able to maintain his good relations with the direction ETV(what i can understand) and with the models, that his relations are shared or forced (he knows what I want to say)

outside wrote:Neither you have answered. Just hot air from sources with less than zero reliability. People that I usually name in a certain way, the same as stated in my avatar.
It's the same.
With one little difference: it's you the one who have to give answer, I have never had any relationship with them.
It's you the one who is going under with them. I am on the river bed. Waiting.

It's true, you allready drowned in your lies. And you know very well, that whatever you answer I will show that you are lying. And thanks for confirming that you have no idea, but that your avatar is your source of information. Yep, very reliable ...and of course you have no answer to the claim in your avatar, except that you believe they are, right?

Well, it is a caracteristic of primitive societies that believe is valued higher than reserch and knowledge.

None wants to be "destructive as possible"", but the current situation should be considered in the right way,
because I think it's not so common that so many "aficionados" loose every kind of interest for this channel.
Arrogance and superficiality should be put aside. I don't know If ETV is affected by some legal problems but if not so, then my suggestion would be to have a second thought about the editorial policy.

HvB, just think about how many posts, in this section of the forum, could have been saved if you would do what you said here :
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It would be sufficient to replace the word "concept" with with word "show".
The source of inspiration for the "shows" is always there:
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HvB wrote:

15102004 wrote:Apple is still on top after Jobs's death, ETV totters if some models leave ?!?

ok i understood!

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15102004 wrote:Apple is still on top after Jobs's death, ETV totters if some models leave ?!?

ok i understood!

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