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outside wrote:Tarl_Cabot wrote:and being a Mod @ lstv you aren't forced to be a fan of everything and you are free to have an own opinion.Ehm, I would have some objection about this. and nobody cares about it. |
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Tarl_Cabot wrote:and being a Mod @ lstv you aren't forced to be a fan of everything and you are free to have an own opinion.Ehm, I would have some objection about this. |
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@ zxcv, you are right, but no hope about them.
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aceman65 wrote:But I'm making the biggest mistake. In my humble opinion .....the calls for withholding the money is not the best solution ..because nobody will pay so much attention for that as you have said yourself . The right thing to do .......is to prove to them that they are applying the wrong strategy and the wrong plan . And as we explained and concluded before ( Just some days ago ) ....and as they have recognized on their walls .....The new ELS service are nothing but a big failure and huge waste of time , efforts and money . Simply because ....it didn't add any substantial income to the total income of the channel .....Once they figured out this fact they decided to change their failed plan with another more failure plan ....to turn the free ELS shows into per-pay in order to push everybody to spend more ....will this work ....the answer still no . So , if we really intend to make any difference on the ground ....we have to prove to them that they are applying the wrong strategy which certainly will generate a huge disappointment . From here we could start ...... |
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fcn2011 wrote:And i think the victims are the models and we, because if the model don´t do what they them told, she will be fired... I never said anything about the models doing anything different. It's us the viewers and contributers of the channel. I have nothing against any of the models. They are just trying to earn a living, like the rest of us. But I'm making the biggest mistake.  I'm continuing to debate the subject, as if anything I say or do will make a blind bit of difference. It won't. People will still continue to fund them. We will still complain. And they will continue to provide us with less and less, for more money.And I dare say, in 12 months time, new members will still be debating the same things. |
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aceman65 wrote:jonas wrote:After watching Chelsea`s internetshow today, it seems for me that ETV will kill itself by selfcensorship now happening also in the internetshows. After her break the show was much softer and Chelsea`s mood much worse And i think the victims are the models and we, because if the model don´t do what they them told, she will be fired... Or isn´t it strange that Sunny is cancelled from every show this week? It is true was Jonas wrote, Chelsea is one of these model who like to be naked more as dressed.  
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Siegfried wrote:JohnGuitar wrote:I need to purchase the premum view for tonight with Thank you mate, I have a credit on my account. John |
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Hi guys! I think it's all how we say "a war with windmills." This same theme was taken up during the talk-show Karry, we do not call, we do not send messages. And it was enough for a moment and look at the ELS was evident that the messages will come up one by one. And thus the loans flowed a broad stream, and for that matter many, many, many!
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jonas wrote:After watching Chelsea`s internetshow today, it seems for me that ETV will kill itself by selfcensorship now happening also in the internetshows. After her break the show was much softer and Chelsea`s mood much worse Yep, I watched the show myself, and I agree with what your saying. But I don't think it is self censorship by the models. I think she was told that she could not show so much any longer, because they want to keep that content for the premium shows, just so we have to pay more. It has nothing to do with the number of calls, or the number of messages the models get throughout the shows. Which was the bullshit Ilia fed to me. It's all about profit. This concept was initially set up for the models, to allow them to better interact with their fans in a more personal and intimate way. free from the restrictions of the studio. But it would seem that the ETV bosses have decided to take over the project, and try and milk it for all it worth. I'll not pay them another credit as long as they continue with this policy. The few credits I have on my account will be left, just so I can use their bandwidth up watching what little will be left. The only message that will get though to them, is to hit them where it hurts. In their pocket. So I hope others will decide to boycott the premium shows. And stop sending messages. If enough of the well known & liked members do it, and let them know why they are doing it, then they will have no choice but to take notice. I know it's not a nice situation to be in, when all you want to do is converse with your favourite model. But it's the only way to make them take notice. This has nothing to do with the models, it's the management. Chelsea was clearly pissed off, and who can blame her. |
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After watching Chelsea`s internetshow today, it seems for me that ETV will kill itself by selfcensorship now happening also in the internetshows. After her break the show was much softer and Chelsea`s mood much worse
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JohnGuitar wrote:I need to purchase the premum view for tonight with when it starts there is a button under the screen to press which takes the credit from your account. If you don't have one, you need to join. |
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I need to purchase the premum view for tonight with
Angelina and Ava, how could I do that? John |
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Tarl_Cabot wrote:and about my opinions about live show channels feel free to have a PM exchange with kolokotronis. that would be for sure some fun. Thanks for good words Tarl. And you are very funny
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Hi Tarl,
that's the best summary I ever read about ETV, maybe you should make it stick on top of this thread  Regards Joker Tarl_Cabot wrote:space6969 wrote:So your opinion is that ETV is there to fool customers and people, who spend money there, are stupid. |
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space6969 wrote:So your opinion is that ETV is there to fool customers and people, who spend money there, are stupid. my opinion is that at etv is everything possible and most people spend money for etv while their idea is often or nearly always different to the idea of the etv bosses. joining the adventure etv it would be the best to expect nothing and be glad about everything good you'll get. it's etv and we know everything is possible. take the example klemi who joined the etv adventure to get his Karry dose and he got the full program. all what he was dreaming about and all he has always feared. you only know that you don't know what you will get when you enter the etv adventure. the only sure thing in life is the dead and the only sure thing about etv is that you will be at least one time angry at this adventure but you will probably also be happy, be disappointed, be tired, be surprised, be ... be whatever. it's etv and so the complete emotional program will be inclusive. but if you are honest you will agree that you have known this when you entered the etv adventure. so you have known before what is your money for.and being a Mod @ lstv you aren't forced to be a fan of everything and you are free to have an own opinion. but being a Mod @ lstv brings also some understanding for some channels. I can perfectly understand why etv takes 1 credit for every published post on the ETV Wall. if I find a way to do this I'll take 10 cent or more for every single post in this thread because the complete topic should be discussed at [hidden link - please register]. so they get the money and we (lstv) get the trouble in the forum. it's etv, so you should expect everything.  and about my opinions about live show channels feel free to have a PM exchange with kolokotronis. that would be for sure some fun.
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