19th+20th century in literature - discuss & chat

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25.12.2015, 13:59

19th+20th century in literature - discuss & chat

dear friend
i create this topic because i find my self living in absurd ( doing the same things , my personal works , watching ETV ,and losing my time in the internet )
in fact my life is like THE MYTH OF SISYPHUS, a figure of Greek mythology who was condemned to repeat forever the same meaningless task of pushing a boulder up a mountain, only to see it roll down again.
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so please let's be more reasonable and while you have nothing to do in this site , just take a look to this topic , put anything you know about 19th or 20th century in literature to discuss it here with who is interested about literature . Smile

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27.12.2015, 01:49

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26.12.2015, 02:49

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HvB wrote:Well, as atheist, I feel closer to Nitzsche than Kirkegaard, but he is still good reading and it's very interesting to see a theologist arguing for seperation of church and state. Many of the arguments are still up to date and desperately needed today.
The philosopher I feel closest to is likely Hanna Arendt. Her views on the Banality of Evil have been an eye opener and very helpful in understanding a dark Epoche in history and they are a warning on how easiely it can happen again. Anywhere, anythime.

well , i have just read a third about the Banality of Evil and i find it very very important.
the banality of evil is a phrase used by hanna arendt to keep in mind a various Paradoxes : how the evil could be fiddling , and she speaks about a radical evil containing violence and pains which is insurmountable to endure and to describe .
and eventhough EINCHMANN played a big role in sending away the jews to the Internment camps during the 2nd world war , but he remained in her point of view just an ordinary man , occupied on his career and his bourgeois position , besides he is not a fagot , fanatic ,Deviant or even an Adventurous. and with the banality which Ardent called him proved the triviality of his actions .
i think the term of the banality of evil doesn't mean minimizing the horror of the crimes that Eichmann was a part of it , or not just a shorthand of the experience of the "Holocaust" like a passing incident in history , but in fact Arendt was thinking in the estimation of the large penalty in judging the crimes while it reached a strong limit of ugliness, As long as the perpetrators are just an ordinary people and very pettiness.
and that was actually true they were just a tool in a dictatorial regime of a MONOMANIA leader ( Hitler ) .

25.12.2015, 21:00

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Well, as atheist, I feel closer to Nitzsche than Kirkegaard, but he is still good reading and it's very interesting to see a theologist arguing for seperation of church and state. Many of the arguments are still up to date and desperately needed today.
The philosopher I feel closest to is likely Hanna Arendt. Her views on the Banality of Evil have been an eye opener and very helpful in understanding a dark Epoche in history and they are a warning on how easiely it can happen again. Anywhere, anythime.

25.12.2015, 19:59

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HvB wrote:Nice collection.
I would add
Goethe: the Werther definitely caused more suicides than the Take That split and I especially love the Wilhelm Meister novels
Schiller: Mary Stuart is my favorite
but both wrote most of their works still in the 18th century ...
Emil Zola: love his spotlights on the darker poorer sides of Paris
Leo Tolstoy: anything I need to say?
As you mentioned the strict anti theistic Nitzsche (who is definitely fun to read because if is way to handle language) the he complete opposite:
Søren Kierkegaard, very readable.
While on the topic of philosophy, Jean-Paul Sartre shouldn't be left out.

dear HvB i salute you ! Thumb up

first of all i want to thank you that you remind me of the special german writer von goethe who let a huge literary heritage to the German and international library.
emil zola the founder of naturalism .
leo tolsoy of course nothing need to say , i do believe that he is the most Russian novelists and Greatest novelists EVER .his best Book "War and Peace" deserve to read .
the danish philosopher and theologian soren kierkegaard Thumb up
paul sartre the founder of the existentialism
when i read SARTRE i recall Simone de Beauvoir Thumb up the second sex deserve to read .
while Nitzsche is my favorite , and i'm totally believe what he wrote and what he gave to the readers . although lots of people have the same opinion like you .

25.12.2015, 19:22

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yes SHNAPS7 thank you Thumb upThumb upThumb up

actually Nietzsche was right : what dosn't kill you make you stronger .
trying to understand Nietzsche is often hard work. But it is worth it.

25.12.2015, 19:03

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Nice collection.
I would add
Goethe: the Werther definitely caused more suicides than the Take That split and I especially love the Wilhelm Meister novels
Schiller: Mary Stuart is my favorite
but both wrote most of their works still in the 18th century ...
Emil Zola: love his spotlights on the darker poorer sides of Paris
Leo Tolstoy: anything I need to say?
As you mentioned the strict anti theistic Nitzsche (who is definitely fun to read because if is way to handle language) the he complete opposite:
Søren Kierkegaard, very readable.
While on the topic of philosophy, Jean-Paul Sartre shouldn't be left out.

25.12.2015, 18:43

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25.12.2015, 18:22

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HvB wrote:Why do you limit it to just the 19th century?

because the 19th century It is the era of cultural prosperity.
why i choose it because it's include the best writers ever such as Friedrich Nietzsche ,Theodor Fontane , Victor Hugo , Auguste Comte ,Fyodor Dostoyevsky etc ....
by the way anyone want to write about 20th century it is possible as well . Smile

25.12.2015, 17:29

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Why do you limit it to just the 19th century?

25.12.2015, 15:38

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