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News Round Up Part 2 :

Alonso, record stats. Never this good before at Ferrari :
The Spaniard has claimed 111 points in 8 Grand Prix, beating his points tally at this stage in his 2 previous seasons. It’s his 20th consecutive race in the points, including the last 12 of last season: no one has been as consistent as him.
A bolt of red lightning. That darts past, focussed, with hands placed firmly on the steering wheel. Only after the race does he let himself go, even shedding a tear or two on the podium. We’ve never seen an Alonso like this before. An Alonso who managed to overtake 10 cars in his climb from 11th on the grid to the top step on the podium, something that even moved this cool Spaniard to tears. "My best ever victory," he said. A win in the European Grand Prix at Valencia that could not only be the turning point in the season, but also the turning point in Alonso's career. The Drivers’ Championship sees Fernando sitting at the top, in 1st place. There’s nothing new about that: even in 2010, in his debut season at Ferrari, the driver from Oviedo spent much of the season at the top of the championship, before the final, dramatic Grand Prix of the season, when Sebastian Vettel managed to pip him to the title. The number of points Alonso has won this season is also striking, in every single way: 111 – or, "No1" three times, as if to tempt fate, as, should Alonso be crowned World Champion this season, it would be his 3rd title after the 2 consecutive Championships he won at Renault; but, putting omens aside and keeping to the facts, Alonso has never before claimed so many points 8 Grand Prix into the season. Not even in his very positive 2010 season, when, after Montreal, he lay 4th in the Drivers’ Championship, on 94 points and having won only one race, the opening race of the season; last season, he was on 87 points after the race at Valencia, 5th in the Drivers’ Championship, 99 points behind eventual Champion, Vettel. After managing to get past 10 cars to win the race yesterday, Alonso even surpassed himself. But the 111 points per se don’t mean much, Or rather, they could mean everything or nothing. Had Alonso had this many points at this stage last season, he would have been in 2nd place in the Drivers' Championship, but still a huge distance behind Vettel. But what's important is how his rivals are doing. Today, Alonso has a 20 point advantage over Webber. He's never been able to open up such a big gap to his rivals before in all his time at Ferrari. Not even in 2010, when he wasn’t able to manage the gap he did actually build up. And, obviously, it’s the biggest gap he’s had this season. He’s already starting to open up a lead, despite having won just 2 of the Grand Prix so far this season and finished on the podium 4 times. What is therefore making the difference is his continuity: following the withdrawal of Hamilton in Valencia, Alonso is the only driver to have finished in the points in every single Grand Prix so far this season. Including last season, the Ferrari driver has finished in the Top 10 in all of the previous 20 Grand Prix. An incredibly consistent run of results. And now, to Silverstone, the only race Alonso actually won in 2011. "We’ll try to take another small step forward with the car," Ferrari Team Principal Stefano Domenicali said. If the car is good enough, Alonso will drive it like the indestructible robot he appears to be. A robot that, every so often, will lose the odd drop of water - but they will actually only be tears of joy.

Kovalainen says Vergne crash a "rookie error" by the Frenchman :
Heikki Kovalainen described his race-spoiling collision with Jean-Eric Vergne in the European Grand Prix as a "rookie mistake" by the Frenchman, after a race in which both Caterhams were involved in contact with Toro Rossos. Kovalainen and Vergne both sustained punctures when they clashed as Vergne tried to pass the Caterham for 17th on lap 12.
Later on, their respective team-mates Daniel Ricciardo and Vitaly Petrov came together while battling for 12th. Ricciardo continued intact despite an airborne spin and finished 12th, while Petrov required a new nose but still came home 13th, one place ahead of Kovalainen. Vergne had to retire with damage from his incident.
"My pace was good but then Vergne made what looks like a rookie mistake, hit me and I had to come in for a new nose," said Kovalainen. "From that point I was just trying to get to the end of the race."
Vergne felt the collision was "just a racing incident", but that he had been in front.
"I felt I was ahead and as I started to turn into the corner, we collided and his front wing clipped my rear wheel," said Vergne. "There was too much damage to the floor and it was impossible to change the damaged rear wheel so there was no way for me to continue." Ricciardo blamed Petrov's 'aggression' for their tangle.
"I had Petrov going quite slowly in front of me, I went to get around him and he defended by going a bit wide," said the Australian. "So I tried to switch back and I feel I gave him some racing room, but we still made contact because perhaps his move was a bit too aggressive."
Shortly before the clash, Petrov had been running 10th and looking like he might manage to give Caterham its first point. But the Russian was then passed by eventual top-four finishers Michael Schumacher and Mark Webber before being caught by Ricciardo, and said he had never felt scoring was realistic anyway.
"Even though we were running 10th at one point I'm not sure a point was quite within reach today, but it's really encouraging to see how we've progressed here," said Petrov.

Romain Grosjean certain he could have passed Fernando Alonso for European Grand Prix victory :
Romain Grosjean is confident he would have had a shot at victory in the European Grand Prix if not for a mechanical problem. The Lotus driver was running in second position having been passed by Ferrari's Fernando Alonso on the restart following a safety car, when he slowed down after his car's alternator failed. By that time erstwhile leader Sebastian Vettel had retired and elevated Alonso and Grosjean to a close first and second. Grosjean said his race had been perfect until that point, and he was hoping the tyre degradation from the Ferrari in front would have given him a chance to get his maiden victory.
"The car stopped, the engine stopped," said Grosjean, who retired on lap 41. "Basically we had an alternator problem and we need to have a deep look into it.
"The race was almost perfect until that point. I had a good start, a good strategy and we pushed when we had to. We had a good performance today.
"It could have been the first win but maybe in the future. I'm sure we are showing good performance and we are getting experience." The Frenchman was convinced his pace was stronger than that of eventual winner Alonso ."I think I was looking not too bad and we knew we were quicker than the Ferrari. We just had to wait a little bit to see if their tyres were going away then try to push. But we couldn't get to that stage."

Nico Rosberg has admitted it was wrong for him and his Mercedes to try to one-stop in the European Grand Prix :
Nico Rosberg believes it was wrong for him to try to go for a one-stop strategy in the European Grand Prix at Valencia. The German was one of a few drivers who started the race with the idea of pitting just once, but the high tyre degradation made it impossible and Rosberg dropped down the order.
Eventually, Mercedes decided to call him in to put new tyres on near the end of the race, and Rosberg charged back to sixth position setting the race's fastest lap in the process.
"The first lap didn't go to plan and I just lost a lot of places, so that was really not ideal," said Rosberg in a video blog after the race. "But still, we had planned a one stop (strategy) so I was still very hopeful and I thought it could go really well. "But it became quite clear soon that one stop wasn't going to work ".
"There was no way. We were miles off. Then the safety car came at the absolute wrong time for me. Restarting after the safety car I had really worn tyres and I couldn't get the temperature back again, and I lost a lot of places.
"In the end it was a great strategy call from the team to call me in and put some new options on because then I was flying and I made up a lot of positions. In two laps I took like four or five guys and finished sixth, which is a decent result in the end."Despite his disappointing race, Rosberg is still convinced Mercedes has the car to win again this year following his maiden victory in China.
"I want to win a race again soon and we have the car to do it, so we are pushing for that," he said.
And the German said he believes that Formula 1's current mixed up nature is great for fans and drivers after yet another thrilling race, despite criticism from some quarters that the sport is too random at the moment.
"I'm sure it was a spectacular race with so much happening," he said. "A lot of people are saying F1 is too random, but I think it's great. Great for racing, and the same people are still winning.
"The picture is becoming clearer on who is going to be favourite for the championship, so I think it's not completely random. It's just very exciting."

Domenicali says Ferrari still needs to be more competitive despite European GP win :
Ferrari still cannot be satisfied with the job it is doing in Formula 1 this year, despite Fernando Alonso's sensational victory in the European Grand Prix that has helped him edge clear in the championship fight.
That is the view of Ferrari team principal Stefano Domenicali, who believes the fact that the Valencia triumph owed more to his driver's stunning efforts to charge through the field than having a dominant car needs to be taken as a sign that things still need to improve at Maranello.
"The car is at another level from what we were seeing at the beginning of the season, but it is not yet the car that is the quickest," explained Domenicali, who saw Alonso become the first double winner of the 2012 campaign.
"In my view Red Bull, or the Red Bull that I have seen this weekend, is the quickest in terms of pure performance. In the race it was leading comfortably, the pace was very strong. That is something that we need to look at,
"We know what our target is at the end of November, so we know that, in my view, they did something very good this weekend, and they improved the car. They had problems with reliability, but we are not, in my view, at the level that we should be in terms of the performance".
"So we have a lot to do, but we are leading the championship and that is something that will be very helpful for the people at home to keep working with more creativity and ideas."
Red Bull Racing introduced a dramatic update to its RB8 in Valencia - with the car featuring a heavily revised sidepod, diffuser and rear suspension configuration.
Those improvements helped Sebastian Vettel take a dominant pole position, and seize control of the race before being forced out with an alternator problem.
Vettel's retirement left the way open for his rivals to take advantage, and it was Alonso's great efforts – which included a brave move past Romain Grosjean after a safety car restart – to take an emotional victory.
When Domenicali was asked if Alonso ever surprised him, he replied: "We know he is the number one driver. That's the reason why he is here with us.
"I am very happy for him because he had such a pressure. Certain feelings you have just watching the eyes of a man that you know. So I was really so happy from my heart to see him fight like this. And I am also happy for the team because they were working in terms of the right strategy and the right calls; this is the strength of our team.
"But as I said, we need to stay cool, calm. This victory is very important because our main rivals in the championship had some problems. Reliability is a key factor this year, and you need to score points every time."

Team boss Eric Boullier says Lotus can't be disappointed about European GP form :
Lotus boss Eric Boullier thinks there is no reason for his team to feel disappointed that its drivers did not have the pace to win the European Grand Prix - despite its high hopes before the race.
The Enstone-based outfit had gone in to the weekend as favourites to deliver an eighth different victor in F1 this season, and its best qualifying performance lifted hopes it could achieve that target.
But in the race, Romain Grosjean struggled to match the pace of leader Sebastian Vettel before both men retired, and later on Kimi Raikkonen lost time trying to get past the McLaren of Lewis Hamilton - leaving eventual winner Fernando Alonso clear at the front. Raikkonen still managed to finish second though and Boullier said that ultimately he thinks the weekend was a positive one for his team.
"You cannot be disappointed with the pace," he told AUTOSPORT. "Everybody has improved their car, so everybody is improving their pace as well. I think it was a good outcome from the weekend.
"We were able to qualify better, and ignoring retirements we had the pace fast enough to have both our cars in the top five in the final result.
"It was disappointing that Romain could not finish the race, because he had a good start, a good qualifying and a good race - but all in all it is very positive."
Raikkonen's podium finish has helped Lotus hold on to its third place in the Constructors' Championship – albeit Ferrari has closed down its deficit - and Boullier thinks there remains plenty of opportunities for it to score victories this year.
"We need to keep pushing to do a very nice result because we can do it," he said. "It is good to be a regular podium finisher - and it is good for the team that we have recovered the ground we lost last year.
"I am disappointed for Romain and disappointed that there were some big points that we missed, but in the end McLaren and Red Bull did not score as much as they wanted. Okay now Ferrari is chasing us, but that is good."

Lotus team boss Eric Boullier says F1 should consider all possible cost cuts very carefully before implementing any :
Formula 1 teams must not be rushed into agreeing cost-cutting changes simply for the sake of it - despite a deadline looming in the next 48 hours to get new regulations in place for the start of 2013.
That is the view of Lotus team principal and FOTA vice-chairman Eric Boullier, who thinks more damage than good will be done if teams are too hasty in coming up with plans that do not work.
The FIA has laid down a June 30 deadline for agreement on a raft of rule changes – including further restrictions on testing, new personnel limits and the governing body getting involved in the policing of a Resource Restriction Agreement. Although Boullier is encouraged by the fact that all the sport's major players are intent of pushing through cost cuts, he is also wary that bad decisions now could be damaging.
"It is good that everybody in the paddock understands that we need to be thinking carefully about the future of F1," he told . "But we definitely need to take the right decision, and we definitely do not need to rush into a decision that we might regret.
"We made some decisions already in the past which cost us money now; and may cost us more money in the future. So we need to make sure that we go the right way and don't rush."
The June 30 deadline is important because it is the last date by which rule changes can be made for 2013 without the need for unanimous approval from the teams.
Currently, Red Bull and Toro Rosso are not in line with other teams over the scope of the RRA – meaning that either could block any changes for 2013if matters are not sorted before July 1.
Boullier is well aware of the importance of a swift resolution to the matter, but thinks that the speed by which the matter needs to be resolved should not be viewed as more important than doing the right thing.
"There is the June 30 limit in terms of the voting system, but it is not because we have to close the debate in a few days. It's that we have to take a decision that has not been carefully thought through," he said.
"We are all in favour of making F1 better, more sustainable and having a long term plan. Cost-cutting is part of the strategy, but we need to do it consciously."

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Cost control set to be written into F1 rules for first time :
Formula 1 is poised to have cost control written formally into its rules for the first time next year.
Governing body the FIA said that it was having "active discussions with teams regarding cost control". FIA and teams are working on an agreement that will enshrine a form of cost control over car design into the regulations. An FIA statement said the "intention is to help all teams participate in a fair and equal manner".
The teams are all concerned about F1's costs in the context of continuing global economic problems, particularly in the Eurozone. Sources say an agreement on how to limit spending on chassis is "not very far off", but emphasise that talks are still ongoing. This deal will most likely not take the form of a formal cap on budgets, but rather adopt a form of restriction on the way the teams can commit their resources.
The F1 teams are already working to a Resource Restriction Agreement, but it has been fraught with difficulties, with accusations that various teams are breaching its terms.
Despite that discontent, all the teams recognise that restricting expenditure is crucial and it has been agreed by most that the most effective way to police it is for it to be detailed in the FIA technical regulations.
"The expectation is there will be something," said a source close to the negotiations. "There has to be something. All parties are committed to it. There is a concerted philosophy towards cost reduction."
A statement from the FIA following a meeting of its World Motorsports Council (WMSC) - effectively the organisation's legislative body - said that "any amendments to the technical regulations resulting from a further limit on expenditure on the chassis will be submitted to the WMSC via a fax vote before 30 June".
However, this date is understood to be a target with the intention of focusing minds rather than a firm deadline and talks could stretch beyond that date. The FIA is also looking at finding a way of restricting resources - and therefore cutting costs - on engines. The subject of the change in engine formula due for 2014, when 1.6-litre V6 turbo engines will replace the current 2.4-litre normally aspirated V8s, was not discussed at the World Council. The potential expense of the engines is causing concern among the F1 teams. But FIA president Jean Todt said that he was working to keep costs down.
"It is true that the [2014] package will be more expensive, but it is also true that the FIA has been in consultation with the engine suppliers in order to reduce the cost increase," he told before the World Council meeting.
"For example we have already agreed to a reduction in the number of power units. From eight per driver per season in 2012, we will reduce this to five per driver in 2014 and to four per driver per season in 2015."
The FIA also said that it was having "constructive" discussions with F1 commercial boss Bernie Ecclestone over the renewal of the Concorde Agreement - the secret contract that binds the teams, the FIA and the commercial rights holder, which Ecclestone represents, together.
There was "the intention of finalising an agreement in the coming weeks", the FIA said.
The statement added that the deadline for entries for next year's world championship had been deferred from 15 July until 30 September.

Alonso and Vettel could co-exist as team-mates, say Ferrari :
Ferrari team principal Stefano Domenicali believes Fernando Alonso and Sebastian Vettel could drive as team-mates without problems. His comments come after it was revealed that Vettel, the 2010 and 2011 world champion, has a pre-contract with Ferrari for 2014.
Domenicali said: "I think they are both intelligent guys and they could easily co-exist together."
F1 boss Bernie Ecclestone claims the arrangement "wouldn't be a problem".
Domenicali and Ecclestone were interviewed by German magazine Sport Bild, and Ferrari published extracts on their website. Ecclestone said: "All drivers want to drive for Ferrari at least once in their career, don't they?" .Domenicali responded: "In life one should never say never!"
Their remarks, as well as Ferrari's decision to highlight them, will add weight to claims that Vettel could join Alonso at Ferrari in 2014. Some F1 Sport magazine reported last month that Vettel had a pre-contract with Ferrari, believed to be two-way and performance-related.
Red Bull team boss Christian Horner denied the claims, saying they had Vettel under contract in 2014.
But Red Bull adviser Helmut Marko, the right-hand man of the company's owner Dietrich Mateschitz, admitted that the double world champion's contract contains performance clauses.
German Vettel has said he cannot imagine driving for a team other than Red Bull.
Vettel, Alonso and McLaren's Lewis Hamilton are widely regarded as the three best drivers in the world.
The best drivers tend to avoid racing for the same team, but Ecclestone said of Alonso and Vettel: "Both are drivers who are always looking for a new challenge, and to be in the same team would be a new and big challenge. "They would both think they can beat the other one, as they are sure of themselves and Stefano would do what was required to so that they were treated equally". "It would be a case of doing what I did at Brabham in 1979 with Niki Lauda and Nelson Piquet. I told them, 'guys it's simple: whichever one of you is quickest is the team number one'."
A source close to Ferrari says Alonso has vetoed the idea of Hamilton joining him at the team but given his approval to Vettel.

Formula 1 teams are considering a ban on tyre warmers for 2013 :
Formula 1 teams are considering a ban on tyre warmers from as early as next year as part of a package of cost-saving measures.With the FIA and teams currently involved in a consultation period to frame new regulations aimed at keeping finances in check, sources have revealed that one proposal being given serious thought is to outlaw tyre blankets. Such a move, which was also considered a few years ago before being dropped because of safety concerns, would save teams money in both equipment expenditure and in freight costs. Pirelli motorsport director Paul Hembery told that his company would be happy to produce tyres that would work well without pre-heating, but said it would need some advance warning.
"It needs planning and you have to do it well, so it is something that if they want to do they have to do it very quickly," he explained.
"What we have found in the past, when we have tried to discuss it, is that the drivers have tended to be worried about such a move, as they feel that it can create a safety issue. From our point of view, yes we can do it but we need time to do it - because it changes completely the compounds that you use."
Hembery believes that because of the time constraints - as well as the limitations imposed by it not having access to a 2012 car for private testing – it could be better for F1 if such a ban was imposed over two seasons.For 2013, he suggests, it could be possible to ban tyre warmers on wet tyres before a full-on ban on heating slicks for the following campaign.
"There might be some midway of being able to get rid of them on the wet tyres because, by the time you get down the pit straight and it is raining, you have lost your temperature anyway. So possibly we could get halfway there quickly and progress to something different for 2014."


Montezemolo on the strange 2012 season "The title depends entirely on us" :
The Ferrari President sets out the team’s next objectives: "We’ve made massive strides forward, but we need even more. In Canada, we witnessed a team that tried everything in a bid to win. That’s what I want and that’s what the fans want.” On spending: "We need to change things. The situation is starting to spiral out of control." "The current world economic situation, in particular in Europe, is starting to cause a lot of concern and F1 can’t afford not to take stock." That’s what Ferrari President, Luca di Montezemolo, told the official Ferrari website." We can’t afford to lose any more time. We need to take drastic decisions with determination, especially on the question of costs. Ferrari share the view of FIA that drastic action is required. As I’ve always said, we’re absolutely convinced that teams and the commercial rights holder must work together with the Federation on this front. This isn’t a time to get bogged down with sterile discussions or the meandering opinions of team engineers, who usually are only concerned in defending the shuffling for position of someone else: the question has to be tackled right from the top, without further delay,” said the head of Ferrari. These are hot times for Formula 1, especially as, in the next few weeks, a lot of crucial issued will have to be discussed and ironed out, not least the Concorde Agreement.
Regrets — During a long meeting this morning at Maranello, Montezemolo also made it clear to Stefano Domenicali just what he expects from the team in next few races of the 2012 season. "I’m not used to crying over spilt milk. I much prefer to look forward,” Montezemolo went on. “In Montreal I saw a team with a tremendous desire to win and a team that tried everything possible in a bid to win, perhaps even taking one risk too many. Seeing a Ferrari battling for the lead right down to the finals laps is what I want to see and it’s what our fans want to see. I’m happy with the progress we’ve made over the last few races, and I’m already looking ahead to, and the team is completely focussed on the race in Silverstone, where we have to continue to improve. We have to continue along this path, knowing I have to stress, that our success this season will entirely depend on us and us alone.”

Massa all smiles "F2012 more suited to me now" :
The Brazilian driver: "I’m much more at ease now. The modifications are paying off. Compared to Alonso, I’m going down a different direction." "We’re getting better at warming our tyres quicker and in terms of race line speed"
"I’m much happier now, as I can drive the F2012 the way I like to. I’m much more at ease now with the driving and the balance of the car. And the pace is good." Felipe Massa can’t hide the fact that, finally, something on his Ferrari has finally turned in his favour. After a start to the season that was, to say the least, complicated, the Brazilian driver is finally developing “a feeling” with the F2012. "And, when that happens, everything feels good," Felipe told the Cavallino’s official website.
Set up — "All the modifications and changes we’ve made to the car have helped. But what was also important was the way we worked on the set-up of the car with my engineers: we changed a lot of things in terms of the balance and found a direction that suits me,” Massa said, adding that he’s going down a different direction [when it comes to his set-up and development] than team-mate Fernando Alonso. "I think so, yes. But not completely. We’re certainly working in a different way,” he admitted. “Every driver has his own style, the way he holds the steering wheel, or the way he uses the throttle. If you don’t feel comfortable for whatever reason, that doesn’t help. As with every sport at the highest level, even in Formula 1 it’s important to work on even the very smallest details. When something doesn’t work, it’s easy to go off at a tangent and lose performance, as you can’t give 100%."
Tyres and top line speed — But what has changed compared to the start of the season? "We’ve made a lot of changes since the start of the season, when, yes, we were a long way from where we are now with the car’s development. In the last three races things have started to move in the right direction, as the right level of development has seen a lot of improvement in terms of performance. This season the tyres are much softer compared to last season, but the F2012 struggles to get the tyres up to the optimum temperature quickly enough. But, this weekend, with the two options of tyre available - medium and soft – we shouldn’t have any problems.” Even the top line speed is better: "In Canada we were able to overtake other cars easily, cars that earlier in the season we’ve struggled to overtake, even using DRS. This shows that other teams have changed their approach, but that we’ve improved in that respect too."

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Sat 07 July 2012
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Driver Standings after the European GP 2012 :

1. Fernando Alonso : 111
2. Mark Webber : 91
3. Lewis Hamilton : 88
4. Sebastian Vette :l 85
5. Nico Rosberg : 75
6. Kimi Räikkönen : 73
7. Romain Grosjean : 53
8. Jenson Button : 49
9. Sergio Perez : 39
10. Pastor Maldonado : 29
11. Paul di Resta : 27
12. Kamui Kobayashi : 21
13. Michael Schumacher : 17
14. Nico Hülkenberg : 17
15. Bruno Senna : 16
16. Felipe Massa : 11
17. Jean-Eric Vergne : 4
18. Daniel Ricciardo : 2
19. Heikki Kovalainen : 0
20. Vitaly Petrov : 0
21. Timo Glock : 0
22. Charles Pic : 0
23. Narain Karthikeyan : 0
24. Pedro de la Rosa : 0

Constructor Standings after the European GP 2012 :

1. Red Bull Racing : 176
2. Vodafone McLaren Mercedes : 137
3. Lotus F1 Team : 126
4. Scuderia Ferrari : 122
5. Mercedes AMG Petronas : 92
6. Sauber F1 Team : 60
7. Williams F1 Team : 45
8. Sahara Force India : 44
9. Scuderia Toro Rosso : 6
10. Caterham F1 Team : 0
11. Marussia Racing : 0
12. HRT F1 Team : 0


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Here is the official result of todays race :

1. Fernando Alonso : Ferrari : 1:44:16.649
2. Kimi Räikkönen : Lotus : + 6.421
3. Michael Schumacher : Mercedes GP : + 12.639
4. Mark Webber : Red Bull Racing : + 13.628
5. Nico Hulkenberg : Force India : + 19.993
6. Nico Rosberg : Mercedes GP : 1:42.163 + 21.176
7. Paul di Resta : Force India : + 22.886
8. Jenson Button : McLaren : + 24.653
9. Sergio Perez : Sauber : + 27.777
10. Pastor Maldonado : Williams : + 34.630
11. Bruno Senna : Williams : + 35.900
12. Daniel Ricciardo : Toro Rosso : + 37.041
13. Vitaly Petrov : Caterham : + 1:15.871
14. Heikki Kovalainen : Caterham : + 1:34.654
15. Charles Pic : Marussia F1 Team : + 1:36.565
16. Felipe Massa : Ferrari 0:00.000 + 1 lap
17. Pedro de la Rosa : HRT F1 Team : + 1 lap
18. Narain Karthikeyan : HRT F1 Team : + 1 lap
Did Not Finish :
19. Lewis Hamilton : McLaren : crash
20. Romain Grosjean : Lotus : technical problem
21. Sebastian Vettel : Red Bull Racing : technical problem
22. Kamui Kobayashi : Sauber 0:00.000 : not yet known
23. Jean-Eric Vergne : Toro Rosso : crash

Fastest Lap : Nico Rosberg
Pitstop Nico Hulkenberg : 2
D.S.L : 15

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