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kennyboy2012 wrote:GeorgeSK wrote:Hi Kenny, -- Hi kennyboy2012 - "Liveshow-Expert", do not think on yourself alone - others would need easy access and that was generally better with past E-TV than now E-internet for many users. So long -- |
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GeorgeSK wrote:Hi Kenny, I agree that the shows should be recorded and made available and yes, proper exclusives are much better inc recordings afterwards. although ETV are too keen to cut hot views from the recorded versions. and fair point re different countries and costs  and yes, Jasmine and Lauren certainly enjoyed themselves with the kissing
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Hi Kenny,
I watched the kissing show of Jasmine and Lauren right after my wish and found it hot. That with the price of a pint may be true but I am from a country which is much closer to Molvania that yours, I presume, so for me it is not as cheap as it is for you. And I still maintain that a normal exclusive is better with it's video highlights. |
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GeorgeSK wrote:Slowfox wrote:Nevertheless, you need to be a paying customer at first, where I have reasonable doubts with some around here. firstly, well done for giving it a go. many are quick to share their opinion of the exclusives, but many claim not to watch, so logic is that many speak hot air You've given it a go so your considered opinion and comments have credibility and value.I watched last night, mainly because I was a bit bored and though, why not Also, I can compare it with last weeks show.so, for me, this weeks show was better. The girls were in exclusives for a longer time ,each time, and the camera work was better. Jasmine certainly was up for a good show with some lovely revealing moves I wasn't expecting, Kelly was nude, which I haven't seen for a while Jasmine, I thought was great with Isadora, with the photo shows. I saw your request for the shower. Now I must add, that I am so not a fan of shower shows , but I don't see why they cant do them in the same time frames as other shows. As far as can tell, the only differences are that the girl has to get dried and ready again after the show, so maybe time wasted that wouldn't be of it was end of show, and also, previously, I think they have a limited number of cameras to hand or at least someone to operate it, because in exclusives going back, there was usually a longer delay for a shower exclusive than normal exclusive requests. and this does highlight that some requests are left to wait hours. ETV say its to fit everything in, in an order that's possible. I think requests should be performed within 1 hr or they are auto cancelled and refunded. I'm still not a fan of these fusion shows, they are not as good as exclusives and so I hope to see less of them and more exclusives. as to cost,. well, lets be honest, a show is less than the cost of a pint. so a few requests thrown in and its still twice as cheap than spending it in a pub for the timescale. you've given the show 13.5 out of 25, I'd probably go maybe 15-18, Isadora was frustrating but was also excellent tease , to be fair to her. I'd be curious on thoughts from anyone else that watched the exclusives all the way through. No point asking some, who didn't watch it, we know what they will say
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Slowfox wrote:Nevertheless, you need to be a paying customer at first, where I have reasonable doubts with some around here. Hi Slow and other paying customers, so I took up the challenge last night and for one night I lifted the self imposed ban on exclusives just to have the right to see and review or even criticise the Fusion format which with other things started this boycott, so people could make up their mind, even those who would never pay for exclusives. And that I couldn't be criticised for reviewing something I didn't see. And there was Isadora, so I was really curious if she wold go to full nudity (spoiler alert - no). I will try to write it down concisely: 1. Content Experienced firsthand what people were suspecting - the exclusive part, while good, is on par with the old TV shows, nothing more. 3 out of 5 2. Exclusive feel With most shows, which are in the same studio, you don't have that exclusive feel like in normal exclusive shows. On the other hand, division of the studio to two parts helps the eyes to concentrate on the models who are in that exclusive part. 3 out of 5 3. ETV's promised seamless integration of TV with exclusives so there is no wait This one is a tough one - it depends on the wish - you can have some fulfilled quickly, others not so. The fact that you buy exclusive and pay for the exclusive wish doesn't guarantee you exclusive treatment from ETV. I had one wish for a shower show for Isadora, I was I think the third person to send a VIP, acknowledged by Isadora on air with 4 other VIPs for her only after about one hour into the show after she and others performed countless wishes for the studio.. She performed the 4 other exclusive requests, which came long after mine and returned to the studio. When I sent a message to the team asking what was with my request I was told that shower wishes are fulfilled at the end of the night shows and that there were no exceptions (I asked Isadora to do it quickly because of early wake up time). I then pointed out that they just did that on Sunday night - showers spread through the whole show, I also pointed out that a member shouldn't wait for almost 4 hours for a fulfillment of an "exclusive" wish. So they were gracious enough to bring it forward, so I watched it at 1.45 am, "only" 2.5 hours after I made that wish, so I could go to bed. 2 out of 5 4. Value for money At 3 credits I just can't justify paying for an "exclusive" like this. This is really only an attempt to monetise a night show which was "free" before. And before anybody of the paying customers justifies this price as fair I would like to point out a fact nobody seemed to notice so far - for a regular exclusive evening you pay 2 credits and you can re-watch the highlights the next day. Here for 3 credits you have one-off exclusives without highlights as ETV doesn't record night shows. For the price of exclusive and my wish plus the messages to the team I could have had 2 wishes in a classic night show and a change left. 3 out of 5 Overall 2.5 out of 5 Recap: Fusion is just an extremely monetised classic night show by greedy ETV. There is this schizofrenia or duality of this show - when it comes to paying, it is a quite expensive exclusive show, when it comes to format it is a night show with the same limitations, like showers at the end, even though you paid exclsuive bucks etc. If you want a real exclusive feel with wishes fulfilled within 30-60 minutes a normal exclusive evening is a much better value with it's video highlights the next day. Unfortunately, you don't have a choice now, if you want a classic night show without exclusives. It is up to you to decide if it is for you. It is definately not for me. |
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Dear friends, I will take a break.....maybe this is my last post in this topic, but anyone else feel free to keep on this topic if there is any idea, comment or suggestion.
The majority of former viewers have stopped to call and send messages as disappointed by the new not very exciting scenario. There is a bunch of passionate lovers of what we consider almost zero as erotic level and many new comer, that is to say people who had a look at the sat and buy some credits looking for something exciting. Very soon they understand they have lost their money as what they find is very far from any reasonable expectation and they leave it. Other new comer will follow and this day light robbery of new chicken will go on until it will be possible. Etv changes quite often so there will be new format and solutions. The only thing that is clear is that without sat the website will come to an end in a few weeks due to camgirls and porn competition. I'll have a look at your posts in other topic and caps from slava or stegiato (as much as there is something interesting). I'll keep on to have a look anyway to the channel and beloved models like Jasmine or Lauren or Saya (until they are still there). Thank you ...to all participants to this topic. It has been very useful to understand what's going on and where we are, all of us. Best regards and keep watching Andrea  
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Watcher wrote:andreaparma wrote:People lost their money asking for full strip not fullfilled. People lost their money paying for Izzy (Izzy?) tits. There are some happy few willing to spend for boring exclusive. No more exciting interaction among 5 or 6 top models like Gia, Scarlet, Sabrina, Maschiara, Claudia etc... No more surprise. No more psycological intriguing interaction among models and self-expression of model themselves. No more games. No more smiles. Just a peep show behind the curtains. Leaving apart peep show followers they are loosing their supporters. But they CANNOT SURVIVE WITHOUT SAT CHANNEL. Web only would die in a week due to strong competition. Things will change. Go on. GO ON Please help me, can you explain where i can read this term & condition on TV screen? |
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andreaparma wrote:People lost their money asking for full strip not fullfilled. People lost their money paying for Izzy (Izzy?) tits. There are some happy few willing to spend for boring exclusive. No more exciting interaction among 5 or 6 top models like Gia, Scarlet, Sabrina, Maschiara, Claudia etc... No more surprise. No more psycological intriguing interaction among models and self-expression of model themselves. No more games. No more smiles. Just a peep show behind the curtains. Leaving apart peep show followers they are loosing their supporters. But they CANNOT SURVIVE WITHOUT SAT CHANNEL. Web only would die in a week due to strong competition. Things will change. Go on. GO ON Oh dear! Dear! Dear! Dear! Dear!!! These people have lost their money due to their own stupidity. Did they not check what they are paying for? This point has arisen many times and, no doubt, will continue to return in various threads here. Did these people not read the "Terms & Conditions"? By the way, how's you "Boycott" going? Withdraw symptoms must be kicking in by now
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I think We need some inspiring quotes for our campain
[hidden link - please register] For this it has always been said ....That human progress has never shaped by cynics ...And the idea is.....Never let the cynics bring you down . Over and over and over again ....Who cares for the cynics !
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tux.friend wrote:But sometime ago it was the meaning that etv staff knows about this forum and read here. yepp, that was 6 or 7 years before you have become a member of this forum. not sure if the threads about Jaya or Joanna still exist but try the search and maybe you'll find some posts from etv staff. andreaparma wrote:Tarl, well, let me tell you that I've started to boycott several years ago the lady shave companies and the tampon companies and the meat is murder slaughterhouses and guess what was the result of this boycott? yepp, nothing, absolutely nothing as none of the companies knows anything about my boycott. so think about a boycott to a company that knows nothing about the boycott or it reasons. and when and how did they steal your money? by weapon or by knife or when you've used online banking? or was it just another moment of mental weakness? so neither the first nor the last moment of mental weakness, you are a man, it's your normal acting. it's on you to change this and grow up or to become strong enough but don't cry about your own weakness. so no, etv didn't steal your money. you gave it to etv although you have known it before that it's etv you are dealing with. your own mistake, so start crying or try to change yourself. and a gentleman agreement? sorry but everyone who isn't happy with etv should be clever enough to stop paying for etv without this agreement and all others wouldn't agree. or dou you think that etv would agree to anything??? (rofl) thus it's another useless idea.and you don't know my pov? so you haven't read my posts. read my posts and you'll find my pov about etv nowadays. no need to repeat it every day, week or month. it's just a rumour that the truth is made by repeating a lie often enough. ;) @slow: I expect that all member who complain or wanna boycott are costumers of etv. if they are not they should shut up. these are the only people who aren't allowed to post in this thread. a boycott of a only wanking .... upps  sorry ... only watching viewer is just a proof of his boredom.
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Tarl,
any real criticism is banned on ETV. We thought also about suggesting a Gentleman Agreement via direct and official contact but it is useless. ETV staff is a Group of bandits looking forward to steal your money. They did it in the past. They do that now much more than yesterday. In every forum the moderator is also participating in discussions and involved in the topics development. You know our position. We don't know your position, Tarl. What you think about the change of previous eurotic TV turning into ETV (fusion, split cam and other paraphernalia)? TARL, YOUR POINT OF VIEW ABOUT ETV WILL BE HIGHLY APPRECIATED. |
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Tarl_Cabot wrote:andreaparma wrote:... But sometime ago it was the meaning that etv staff knows about this forum and read here. Allways a good strategy to talk about if its useless or not, if its the right time or not, if its the right place or not and say nothing about the content itself, if someone didnt like the topic and the substance of a discussion. |
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Tarl_Cabot wrote:andreaparma wrote:Dear John, Nevertheless, you need to be a paying customer at first, where I have reasonable doubts with some around here. |
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andreaparma wrote:Dear John, nonetheless it would be stupid to post only in the internet and not to send a message to etv. I expect, no I demand that everyone who posts in this thread (you know, only who wanna boycott etv is allowed to post here) has sent at least one message to etv although a single message isn't enough. everyone should send every week a message to etv including his name and customer number and what he doesn't like or why he doesn't wanna rebuy any credits. if someone hasn't sent a message to etv he should shut up and stay away from this thread. |
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Johnbirracchio wrote:Dear Andrea di Parma,Dear John, you know any kind of real criticism, polite or not, is banned on etv wall as hater. In my opinion the only thing they are focussing on is money and that's the only language they use. So only by not spending credits they can be aware of some change. Not in other ways that didn't work in the past and don't work now. I agree with you. Any company take care of customers. Not etv. |
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