Eurotic TV - General Discussion

space6969 wrote:

outside wrote:True friends? How do you measure a friendhsip? By the money you spend for that?
You are the corroded, corroded, blinded and brainwashed from the illusion your friendship is true, but remember what an user called rainer stated here about his friendship with eliza: no money, no friendship.
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I value friendship a lot, and just because I value it a lot, I think the true friendship is something completely different than the pay-for-friendship service offered by ETVShow. Friendship is for free, everywhere.

This gentleman speaks the truth.
Friendship that involves paying money doesn't exist.
Personally I'd be a bit cautious with words like "corroded, blinded and brainwashed", beacuse if the customer knows that he is paying for an illusion of friendship and
not for real friendship it could possibly be a legitimate deal.
On the other hand, if I read the posts of those "friends" here in the forum, I tend to think that at least some of them think that it's real friendship that they are paying for.

regardless, we should not forget that those 'friends' are paying the show with their calls and sms, for the 'none friends' to see it for free

nighthawk wrote:........................
It hasn't been a porn channel, It isn't a porn channel and it willl never been a porn channel.

I'm sorry to disappoint you, but they has been also a porn channel in the past.
and IMHO what a lot of people is asking is not to be back like INXTC / XPLUS but just like eUrotic where girls like Malena, Jaya, Safo, till Mashiara, Amy and Scarlet and more...more... gave us stunning performances without the obsession of "watchers", and without being a porn-actress

nighthawk wrote:1.) They installed "Gold" to make the talks cheaper for true friends ....
2.) Now you can call the ladies in studio for the same fee independant if it is a telephone or a mobile phone. Lasted long but it has happened...

Again IMHO, i'm not so sure...... let's give them the time to have a constant number of buyers for PS or PH (with the current format and prices they need only 30 viewers to replace the maximum value obtainable by a phone call). And when this will happen, they will not remember neither the name of their "friends"

shagshaggy wrote:they are advertising adultfriend finder a lot on screen so they might own that site?

Lol, no.
Don't know how much they make with those ads, but I'd guess it's not much.

outside wrote:True friends? How do you measure a friendhsip? By the money you spend for that?
You are the corroded, corroded, blinded and brainwashed from the illusion your friendship is true, but remember what an user called rainer stated here about his friendship with eliza: no money, no friendship.
...
I value friendship a lot, and just because I value it a lot, I think the true friendship is something completely different than the pay-for-friendship service offered by ETVShow. Friendship is for free, everywhere.

This gentleman speaks the truth.
Friendship that involves paying money doesn't exist.
Personally I'd be a bit cautious with words like "corroded, blinded and brainwashed", beacuse if the customer knows that he is paying for an illusion of friendship and
not for real friendship it could possibly be a legitimate deal.
On the other hand, if I read the posts of those "friends" here in the forum, I tend to think that at least some of them think that it's real friendship that they are paying for.

outside wrote:

Tarl_Cabot wrote:

outside wrote:... their first incoming source isn't calls-sms amount, but telephone numbers advertising.... they would encrypt they would loose their main incoming source (arabic recorded services).

which amount are you talking about?
just to get an idea about the income compared to the costs.

We tell the same, calls and sms would never cover satellite costs, tell it to Joker.

they are advertising adultfriend finder a lot on screen so they might own that site?

Regardless of the different views here .....

I think the most interesting part in this week was the official recognition from ETV in their website concerning the current status of the night shows and how it really became below the standard level .

Tarl_Cabot wrote:

outside wrote:... their first incoming source isn't calls-sms amount, but telephone numbers advertising.... they would encrypt they would loose their main incoming source (arabic recorded services).

which amount are you talking about?
just to get an idea about the income compared to the costs.

We tell the same, calls and sms would never cover satellite costs, tell it to Joker.

nighthawk wrote:@ his name is message enough

could you imagine that I'm following ETV since January 2007 ....

So there aren't much differences since that time, one of it is the music but that's all I miss.
It hasn't been a porn channel, It isn't a porn channel and it willl never been a porn channel.

If you have forgotten, under your corroded thinking by hatred, I would like to remeber you of some facts:

1.) They installed "Gold" to make the talks cheaper for true friends ....
2.) Now you can call the ladies in studio for the same fee independant if it is a telephone or a mobile phone. Lasted long but it has happened...
3.) I don't know how it works from... but I assume they are still sending smoke signals and that could youtube get in trouble with another nice member here

Best Regards and have a nice day

True friends? How do you measure a friendhsip? By the money you spend for that?
You are the corroded, corroded, blinded and brainwashed from the illusion your friendship is true, but remember what an user called rainer stated here about his friendship with eliza: no money, no friendship.
Maybe I could refresh everyone memory about "true friendship"
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I value friendship a lot, and just because I value it a lot, I think the true friendship is something completely different than the pay-for-friendship service offered by ETVShow. Friendship is for free, everywhere.

outside wrote:... their first incoming source isn't calls-sms amount, but telephone numbers advertising.... they would encrypt they would loose their main incoming source (arabic recorded services).

which amount are you talking about?
just to get an idea about the income compared to the costs.

@ his name is message enough

could you imagine that I'm following ETV since January 2007 ....

So there aren't much differences since that time, one of it is the music but that's all I miss.
It hasn't been a porn channel, It isn't a porn channel and it willl never been a porn channel.

If you have forgotten, under your corroded thinking by hatred, I would like to remeber you of some facts:

1.) They installed "Gold" to make the talks cheaper for true friends ....
2.) Now you can call the ladies in studio for the same fee independant if it is a telephone or a mobile phone. Lasted long but it has happened...
3.) I don't know how it works from... but I assume they are still sending smoke signals and that could youtube get in trouble with another nice member here

Best Regards and have a nice day

Sure, and I remember this site headline was "ETV, fooling the viewers".
And I also remember one word stated in the header.

outside wrote:I understand, you have been member since 2010, you don't know what was the real eUrotic.

I understand you have been a member since 2007 so you won't remember all the complaints back then.

Really bad there's nobody spending his money to ask the girls for the shows you want to see.
Hint: The phone number is regularly shown on the screen
I understand, you have been member since 2010, you don't know what was the real eUrotic.
That one were indeed, but they were pushed away from their disgraceful policy (one example: some moderators as Georg aka "The Liar").


And as sad as it is, their business is not broadcasting TV program but receiving calls and SMS, if that worked without TV broadcast they wouldn't pay for 2 satellite licenses.
False, since their first incoming source isn't calls-sms amount, but telephone numbers advertising. Not their own numbers, but recorded services for arabic people, not produced on their own.

Well, that's the business. The people sending the SMS seem to like that.
Are you sure? Always less. Have you ever taken a look at bellerophon stats?


Well, they are still wise enough not to encrypt. IMHO the quality of the shows is even more affected by the girls on stage and the staff behind the cam than by censorship.
Mine was of course a provocation, since they couldn't bear there are people who watch the shows for free.
They have already tried and failed with INXTC. And if they would encrypt they would loose their main incoming source (arabic recorded services).

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I would add some consideration, in no particular order:
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2. They have pushed a different type of calling customers: no more the ones who called for interact with models but the "Princes Charming" or "White Knights" who call, send sms or buy presents from their store for "pay-for-love" or "pay-for friendship" services.

Really bad there's nobody spending his money to ask the girls for the shows you want to see.
Hint: The phone number is regularly shown on the screen

4. Some audience is even inside the show (sometimes even with some visit to studios ),

Shit, have I really been on the screen

plasmas have spoiled shows quality, too much ones and too invasive. Always the same request every night (one example, monster-rene and his showers in high heels requests), would just annoy models and viewers.

Well, that's the business. The people sending the SMS seem to like that.

8. They couldn't accept there is some people who watch TV shows for free, so why don't they encrypt TV channel so they would avoid our annoying presence and at the same time they could offer some real premium content for their real first class customers, since an encrypted channel has no censorship restriction at all, unless of course molvanian law who doesn't allow porn content production.

Well, they are still wise enough not to encrypt. IMHO the quality of the shows is even more affected by the girls on stage and the staff behind the cam than by censorship.

9. ETVShow is one of latest japanese who still broadcats in 4:3. What about 16:9 and HD?

Good luck they don't broadcast 16:9 otherwise half of the screen were covered by the red stripes with phone and SMS numbers.
As they only us a bitrate about 2.5MBit/s you can forget about HD, you'd only see artefacts or blur.
And as sad as it is, their business is not broadcasting TV program but receiving calls and SMS, if that worked without TV broadcast they wouldn't pay for 2 satellite licenses.
I'd also appreciate one good quality broadcast instead, but that would strongly reduce their range.

10. Does ETVShow know streams couldn't be watched using Android platforms (smartphone and tablet)? Why does ETVShow still use an obsolete technology as Adobe Flash Player, even not supported by Google Chrome?

Well, google maybe over estimated their position when completely skipping flash. Yes, Flash is crap, but it's established crap. That will take time until it will be replaced.
And the required software for broadcasting an encrypted web stream is usually not for free, so ETV will have to spend money again, and not to forget the problems they had with the current solution in the beginning (at least the complaints meanwhile have significantly decreased), so my assumption is that problem will persist for a while yet.

Regards
Joker

Just two considerations, without any claim....

1) "serious call" - are we speaking about something that offer us some relaxing moment, fun and leisure. or ETV it's a real social service for depressed people, or at least which have no way to have real friends (meaning people that you can meet normally, and call them without buying credits).

2) Udo, as far as i know a very kind person, didn't ever ask for 300/400% of increasing for his "service", so i think that the store of ETV is not a "service" but just another speculation on some people's weakness.