Eurotic TV - General Discussion

Next week.....three hours of Premium Live SHOW .......three hours?
What's it, a masterpiece of Mikhailovich Eisenstein?

But it's a threat or a punishment?

am i wrong or NS become more hot than before?

ji_mar wrote:In currently are total of 44 girls in ETV, and this is the division of girls to my taste:
class A : 0
class B : 15
class C : 10
class D : 13
class E : 6

Holy cow, 13 girls that bother you and 6 girls you hate and who make you angry ?
That must suck...


For comparison my stats:
class A : 1
class B : ~ 13
class C : ~ 30
class D : 0
class E : 0

ji_mar wrote:I read several posts in which it was written that NS are again better and hotter . I am pleased that once again there are people who are satisfied and happy while watching NS .
For me, NS ceased to be interesting when disappeared a playfulness, fun and a erotica . NS happened only "call center" and "waiting room" for wishes .

I am wondered if it the right time for me to again watched the night show .
- But I have a reason?
- They are girls in ETV even interesting for me?
- Fascinates me still their beauty and art?
For this reason, I conducted this my personal "analysis".

I divided the girls into 5 classes:
class A : - A girl who enchants me and excites me. I want to see every show with her and I look forward to every show with her.
class B : - A girl who is likeable to me and I like her body. I'm glad she is in the show.
class C : - A girl who is not interesting for me, but I do not mind, when she is on show.
class D : - A girl who is unsympathetic to me or I do not like her body. It bothers me when she is in the show and she spoil my mood.
class E : - A girl, which I hate for many reasons, regardless of her beauty. If the girl in the show, I am angry and I not watching this show.

In currently are total of 44 girls in ETV, and this is the division of girls to my taste:
class A : 0
class B : 15
class C : 10
class D : 13
class E : 6
Unfortunately, the result of my analysis is not good .

This week are in NS 18 girls, and this is the division of girls to my taste:
class A : 0
class B : 1
class C : 6
class D : 7
class E : 4

My decision whether I'll watch again NS?
You try to guess . I think that you know .

...........

Excuse me, please. This is not a joke or a provocation. This is only an opinion and feeling of former viewer and customer.

.....a special return?

I read several posts in which it was written that NS are again better and hotter . I am pleased that once again there are people who are satisfied and happy while watching NS .
For me, NS ceased to be interesting when disappeared a playfulness, fun and a erotica . NS happened only "call center" and "waiting room" for wishes .

I am wondered if it the right time for me to again watched the night show .
- But I have a reason?
- They are girls in ETV even interesting for me?
- Fascinates me still their beauty and art?
For this reason, I conducted this my personal "analysis".

I divided the girls into 5 classes:
class A : - A girl who enchants me and excites me. I want to see every show with her and I look forward to every show with her.
class B : - A girl who is likeable to me and I like her body. I'm glad she is in the show.
class C : - A girl who is not interesting for me, but I do not mind, when she is on show.
class D : - A girl who is unsympathetic to me or I do not like her body. It bothers me when she is in the show and she spoil my mood.
class E : - A girl, which I hate for many reasons, regardless of her beauty. If the girl in the show, I am angry and I not watching this show.

In currently are total of 44 girls in ETV, and this is the division of girls to my taste:
class A : 0
class B : 15
class C : 10
class D : 13
class E : 6
Unfortunately, the result of my analysis is not good .

This week are in NS 18 girls, and this is the division of girls to my taste:
class A : 0
class B : 1
class C : 6
class D : 7
class E : 4

My decision whether I'll watch again NS?
You try to guess . I think that you know .

...........

Excuse me, please. This is not a joke or a provocation. This is only an opinion and feeling of former viewer and customer.

Remember ETV closes itself no longer exists in Europe a channel of eroticism, so think twice before criticizing always too green is not blue but not too blue and too black Ugh and now that white, and so on blah blah blah.

The criticism.
Criticize harshly but always without any useful purpose, criticize for bias because we believe owners of a single reality leads nowhere, the reality is always open to different interpretations.
There is no absolute reality as there is good and evil.
The believe in the right is not always open to dialogue, you have no principles of democracy.
  So I conclude that loveth not Eurotic change channels or otherwise face the critical but constructive not just a waste of words or long words.

bellerophon wrote:

Watcher wrote:

bellerophon wrote:Having, I have to admit, for once watched last's nightshow, it was striking yet again to find a show which not only did not cut away from below the waist shots, but repeatedly focussed on the female downstairs bits, often actually zooming in on the pussies of models who didn't mind at all like Kia, Ira, Mashiara and Angelina.

In the webshows of course exactly the opposite happens most of the time, so either they are really trying to resurrect customers for the free-to-air shows, even those with on paper unpromising casts, or there is some policy difference which escapes more than only me. Let's hope the fta shows don't suddenly receive the censorship imposed on the web, rather than the other way round.

I think you answer your own question ... Maybe the models in the webshows did mind.

In some cases, yes of course, but I doubt that Claudia, Kia, Mashi, Angelina or Nancy mind any more on the web than in fta. And Mimi and Jade don't seem to mind at all.

Going OT so brought it here.

Maybe they don't want the webshows to turn into something already abundantly present on the web.

I always read too many criticisms of ETV has become a constant.
I do not share the criticism when it does not have anything constructive.
ETV remains the only channel in Europe to deal with the theme of eroticism in a non-vulgar.
Even the WEB is not a bad idea, see the girls express themselves without having to answer calls is nice also allows them to progress, there is a different video the commitment and desire to act to interpret. This then their progress is also transmitted in TV, Nancy lately and much more sensual thanks to the possibility of having starred on the Internet.
Would not surprise me very self at the end of some of the girls fail to have a chance in the world of entertainment. Having only the TV does not allow anything like that because it justly commitment to messages and phone calls is very high.
I have seen several videos of ETV is sincerely do not agree with the ruthless criticism that is sometimes made​​, they are beautiful girls from non-professional for these are also more playful.
Also consider the price of the video very honest 2 credits for a girl and 4 for two are not an exaggerated price, because generally purchase videos of the models that most interest.
Apart from some relief, I should support this reality the only one that allows us to see an erotic show free to interact with their favorite girl and see the same video in genuinely well made not vulgar and not too explicit.
Viva ETV

nighthawk wrote:There is a little difference between discuss various points of view about a matter and to be aginst a stupid, senseless and disrespectful campaign.
This has been pure hatred of people they haven't to do better things and probably never met a Lady in their real life.

sorry, nighthawk, there was any insults, there was no campaign and being so bold to call the opinion of some people who thinks different than you "stupid", "senseless" and "disrespecful" it´s just becoming disrespectful yourself. Everyone of us has different opinions about the shows and the work of the models. Some people used the wall (a space who ETV gives to the customers to write some comments) to complain about Karry behaviour in night shows, nothing more. I know it bothers you a lot, but their opinion must be equally respectable than yours, it´s equally senseless or stupid than yours. I insist ETV was more disrespectful to Karry than any of the people who made a comment then, but you and some fans like you prefer to keep blaming the people who express opinions that dislikes to you for denying yourself something you dont´want to accept, even if many people is denouncing it. I don´t read nothing about ETV responsability about it and the way they managed it from you (all of you who talks about "campaign against Karry").

I think all should assume Karry has something to do about it (did you see the excellent post of Hilbert today: [hidden link - please register] as an example of what the people was talking about) and assume the way ETV has managed this issue, but honestly, talking about "hatred of people" is too strong. Many of that people spent money on sms, callings to her, or bought Karry´s premium shows, maybe because they were interested on her, true?

Finally, i guess many of us have known a real Lady. I don´t know how is Karry as person, so i can´t judge her. But as model she is for sure far away of the idea i have of a Lady. It´s my opinion.

best regards.

nighthawk wrote:Very fast answer but understood anything ? No and I have no hard time to discuss with people they disagree with me, is my daily bred at work but the way of style is different totally
There is a little difference between discuss various points of view about a matter and to be aginst a stupid, senseless and disrespectful campaign.
This has been pure hatred of people they haven't to do better things and probably never met a Lady in their real life.

The distinguish between the Yedi's and the Sith's ?

Only a Sith deals in absolutes
Obi Wan Kenobi

Honestly, and I tell you this with no polemical intent whatsoever, you're behaving like a child.
And "probably never met a Lady in their real life" sounds a little bit like the pot calling the kettle black considering that your way of treating ladies is buying them.
This, and let me respectfully tell you that making snide remarks about other people's personal lives is a bit far-fetched.
I really have no wish to continue discussing with you, but feel free to keep responding to what I write, you're making me save the tickets for the circus.

Chris26 wrote:

nighthawk wrote:It seems someone has understood something, exactly this is meant with ELS. For the other tings it is called PLS
So i can calm you and tell I'm very clear, yeah.

Hardly because if you actually read what I write with normal glasses instead of ETV-tinted ones (maybe they give them in exchange for some photographic equipment, what do you say? ), you can see that I wrote that they are confused too. Don't try to pin problems on viewers, because they are within ETV. If ELS, as you say, are merely for conversations, then why did ETV try (in their own distorted and negative way) to improve them as shows? And let me ask you this: if ELS are for conversations, reserved calls are for calls and PH/PS are for shows, then what's the point of the messages you can send? Some kind of bonus that viewers should be grateful for?

nighthawk wrote:Exactly the thursday night was Karry's night. What is she ?
A.) Director
B.) Cameralady
C.) Moderator
D.) Model
I think you know the right answer and more than one are right sometimes. But in main part she is a model and not an only working
as the director one. The same with Aria, works for model, director, moderator. This had already been the best shows without a director or with on who works or worked for a model too.

Based on what? Your personal opinion. So you can say that in your opinion those were the best shows. I honestly think that the first Karry's thursday night shows were very good, then, with ETV's shift to premiums, they just became (like all other nightshows) a "Hi guys, I'm XXXX, I'm here with ZZZZ, YYYY, UUUU, BBB and we're waiting for your calls and wishes": presentation, sitting on the couch, doing nothing, etc.

nighthawk wrote:Every Tuesday night has been a relaxed and highest erotic atmosphere in it. Where did you spend your time ?
Better for you is probably like for the most ones but the most ones aren't all and she has the right to come back
This has been no constructive critizism, it was a campaign aginst her and nothing else. Nobody deserves that.

Again, this is all your opinion. I honestly saw no insults on the Wall (except for a couple of posts that maybe went over the top), but if you want my opinion (I know you don't as other people's opinions don't matter to you unless they agree with you but I don't care ), if we're talking obviously about her behaviour on the workplace and not herself as a person, I think people have actually been too kind in what they wrote.

nighthawk wrote:Stupid and senseless. Exactly what I mean and what I felt when I read the comments.This is the little distinguish.
The comments are it and that is it what I have said. It is my opinion and I have the right to tell that.
If you mean that my posts are stupid and senseless, I can live with it. Even very good...
In Germany we have a saying for your example: " As you sow so you will reap."


At last:
If you are so unsatisfied with their doing, why not to watch another channel. Enough exists where you get what you want.
I appreciate them for their uniqueness

Good Night

Ah, OK, so it's what you felt, I feel sorry for you then, you must have a hard time discussing with people who disagree with you.
And the great conclusion "If you don't like, don't watch", very classy.
Uniqueness... a bit unoriginal, though, you can do better.

Very fast answer but understood anything ? No and I have no hard time to discuss with people they disagree with me, is my daily bred at work but the way of style is different totally
There is a little difference between discuss various points of view about a matter and to be aginst a stupid, senseless and disrespectful campaign.
This has been pure hatred of people they haven't to do better things and probably never met a Lady in their real life.

The distinguish between the Yedi's and the Sith's ?

Only a Sith deals in absolutes
Obi Wan Kenobi

nighthawk wrote:It seems someone has understood something, exactly this is meant with ELS. For the other tings it is called PLS
So i can calm you and tell I'm very clear, yeah.

Hardly because if you actually read what I write with normal glasses instead of ETV-tinted ones (maybe they give them in exchange for some photographic equipment, what do you say? ), you can see that I wrote that they are confused too. Don't try to pin problems on viewers, because they are within ETV. If ELS, as you say, are merely for conversations, then why did ETV try (in their own distorted and negative way) to improve them as shows? And let me ask you this: if ELS are for conversations, reserved calls are for calls and PH/PS are for shows, then what's the point of the messages you can send? Some kind of bonus that viewers should be grateful for?

nighthawk wrote:Exactly the thursday night was Karry's night. What is she ?
A.) Director
B.) Cameralady
C.) Moderator
D.) Model
I think you know the right answer and more than one are right sometimes. But in main part she is a model and not an only working
as the director one. The same with Aria, works for model, director, moderator. This had already been the best shows without a director or with on who works or worked for a model too.

Based on what? Your personal opinion. So you can say that in your opinion those were the best shows. I honestly think that the first Karry's thursday night shows were very good, then, with ETV's shift to premiums, they just became (like all other nightshows) a "Hi guys, I'm XXXX, I'm here with ZZZZ, YYYY, UUUU, BBB and we're waiting for your calls and wishes": presentation, sitting on the couch, doing nothing, etc.

nighthawk wrote:Every Tuesday night has been a relaxed and highest erotic atmosphere in it. Where did you spend your time ?
Better for you is probably like for the most ones but the most ones aren't all and she has the right to come back
This has been no constructive critizism, it was a campaign aginst her and nothing else. Nobody deserves that.

Again, this is all your opinion. I honestly saw no insults on the Wall (except for a couple of posts that maybe went over the top), but if you want my opinion (I know you don't as other people's opinions don't matter to you unless they agree with you but I don't care ), if we're talking obviously about her behaviour on the workplace and not herself as a person, I think people have actually been too kind in what they wrote.

nighthawk wrote:Stupid and senseless. Exactly what I mean and what I felt when I read the comments.This is the little distinguish.
The comments are it and that is it what I have said. It is my opinion and I have the right to tell that.
If you mean that my posts are stupid and senseless, I can live with it. Even very good...
In Germany we have a saying for your example: " As you sow so you will reap."


At last:
If you are so unsatisfied with their doing, why not to watch another channel. Enough exists where you get what you want.
I appreciate them for their uniqueness

Good Night

Ah, OK, so it's what you felt, I feel sorry for you then, you must have a hard time discussing with people who disagree with you.
And the great conclusion "If you don't like, don't watch", very classy.
Uniqueness... a bit unoriginal, though, you can do better.

Chris26 wrote:

nighthawk wrote:It has been ETV's own decission to show more during the time when it is impossible in TV. Can you follow...

Hmm, not quite. This was the models' first explanation when asked about the Internet, but ETV has made it clear several times that the purpose of the ELS is not to "be a nightshow during the day" but just to have a nice and relaxed conversation with your favourite lady without interruptions and cuts.
But yeah, given how ETV has quite some confused ideas, I can see how you might get confused too. :

It seems someone has understood something, exactly this is meant with ELS. For the other tings it is called PLS
So i can calm you and tell I'm very clear, yeah.

Chris26 wrote:

nighthawk wrote:Only to add this little one, I think I can.
After all the stupid and senseless complainings about Karry on their wall [the most came from...], what has leaded to remove her from the Night Shows, we haven't a show without director on Tuesday anymore.
It has been so nice to see the ladies acting like they want and not to be forced by a director like "george"to go over the top with stupid actions, like three ones had it done during the last Saturday Night Show.
So, from now on the Tuesday has a director again, of course it depends on who it is...
Thanks to all complainers

Uhm, I can't seem to find a correlation between what happened with Karry on the wall and the lack of a director on Tuesday. Wasn't Karry the director on Thursday nights? I seem to recall Tuesday nights were merely 5 models, 1 of which was Karry spending all the show sitting with her (clothed) ass on the couch. So for me it's much better than the show is back to more models, and especially models who are willing to do something.
And I will add that, although this coming week's nightshows bear no interest for me, it is true that they have somewhat improved in the latest weeks. Less nervous cuts, more convinced camera job, models who seem more relaxed. Sure, they should work on variety, but one step at a time.
P.S.: "Stupid" and "senseless" sound like insults to me. Am I therefore allowed to say that also your posts to me seem "stupid" and "senseless", now?

Exactly the thursday night was Karry's night. What is she ?
A.) Director
B.) Cameralady
C.) Moderator
D.) Model
I think you know the right answer and more than one are right sometimes. But in main part she is a model and not an only working
as the director one. The same with Aria, works for model, director, moderator. This had already been the best shows without a director or with on who works or worked for a model too.

Chris26 wrote:I seem to recall Tuesday nights were merely 5 models, 1 of which was Karry spending all the show sitting with her (clothed) ass on the couch. So for me it's much better than the show is back to more models, and especially models who are willing to do something.

Every Tuesday night has been a relaxed and highest erotic atmosphere in it. Where did you spend your time ?
Better for you is probably like for the most ones but the most ones aren't all and she has the right to come back
This has been no constructive critizism, it was a campaign aginst her and nothing else. Nobody deserves that.

Chris26 wrote:P.S.: "Stupid" and "senseless" sound like insults to me. Am I therefore allowed to say that also your posts to me seem "stupid" and "senseless", now?

Stupid and senseless. Exactly what I mean and what I felt when I read the comments.This is the little distinguish.
The comments are it and that is it what I have said. It is my opinion and I have the right to tell that.
If you mean that my posts are stupid and senseless, I can live with it. Even very good...
In Germany we have a saying for your example: " As you sow so you will reap."


At last:
If you are so unsatisfied with their doing, why not to watch another channel. Enough exists where you get what you want.
I appreciate them for their uniqueness

Good Night

Working with young girls who have rightly also their needs is difficult to do well some girls to continue studying I love Nancy studied at least I know that I speak two languages, I believe that with ETV is financed studies and does well is certainly not the work to ETV that can give you a future.
I also understand the difficulties of those who must organize evenings, they took a big commitment to go live 22 hours a day with nothing recorded is by no means easy, then if some models are pointing your feet goodbye.
Hence their use of less demanding unfortunately not for their faults may only make up the numbers.
They also made a big investment on the internet for charity I have nothing contribute their website in fact I bought all videos Nancy is not at all repentant, but also for the WEB serve the models and at the end of the blanket is getting shorter.
I contribute with my little for ETV Although times are hard my country are in deep waters not beautiful, my rant is that of a FAN who loves TV as a fan even when his team takes bad but then finds himself to support every Sunday shouting no longer have a voice.
I'd love to know more about ETV to judge things better again we see only a very distorted reality perhaps is perhaps the executives are also difficulties in their culture is not incompetent they know to do their job then I think they are in trouble because can not be explained otherwise as a day like Thursday night of the week is the best defense from the beautiful and Tia Nancy and Giselle are only three in the end.
A greeting and thanks.