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Scottishbloke wrote:Kenny what you fail to understand is that for years ETV had a winning formula even if I was never an avid fan of the channel I always had a healthy respect for what they were doing and always used to wish that the UK shows would adopt a lot of there ideas. Why the hell should anybody have to be given a code Kenny to watch something that should be FTA. what you fail to understand is that for years ETV had a winning formula well clearly the winning formula was no longer working, and with all the new competition, they decided to change things, to adapt. what everyone forgets is that a business has to keep gaining new customers to survive. If you only look after your existing customers, they will all grow tired and slowly decrease in number and then you have no customers. That's is basic business fact, sad but true. If they said OK we'll do what we used to do and we wont change for the next 10 years, would all the complaining customers on here agree to use ETV at the same levels for the next 10years without break or change? sorry, but new customers are needed as a constant feed to cover for those that would leave regardless of events. Why the hell should anybody have to be given a code Kenny to watch something that should be FTA. OK, firstly, I disagree about what should be FTA. there is no God given right to what should free to watch., ETV is a business and as such they decide what they offer for free and what they offer for charge. WE, as customers then decide if we will pay for the chargeable. where does it say we have a right to their shows for free? Do Studio66 provide their webcams for free, or even the pervy cam, mo.. do BSX offer all of theoir shows for fee, no. They all offer some services for free as an enticement to pay for the full services, but if they give it all for free, then what would they charge for? secondly, the idea of a code was for those that paid for phone calls, so that they wouldn't have to pay, so the only ones missing out are those not willing to pay anything. I have no interest in their wants. There's no such thing as a free meal. Pay fair is only fair. You fail to understand that callers and those who are shy can send in an SMS request is what pays for the shows I know what pays for the show, you missed my point about the callers not having to pay extra. If 2016 is just away to get even more tame and censored than the year that we've just left then don't expect it to see 2016 yup, I agree with this, they need to be less and less censored, we agree on this  as for sticking by this sham: To be clear, as I have already said a few times, I like some of what ETV do, some of it is good in my opinion. That which is good, I watch. That which is not good, I don't watch. If we all did that, they would do more of the good that sells and less of what doesn't sell. But just bleating about it all on here will change nothing, and so is pointless (that's not aimed at you, its a general point) but anyway I'm going back to enjoying the exclusives side. Peace and have a nice day
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Please.....Someone save ETV please.
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pollopollo wrote:kennyboy2012 wrote: lobbyists get paid for lobbying, if anyone wants to give me money, I'm happy with that
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kennyboy2012 wrote:
but who knows, maybe I am the ETV director in disguise, as some still think lol You look more like a lobbyist!
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Hey JBGood
I can understand a lot of long term customers being upset and to be fair, I've said this in a post underneath yours on this thread. I'm watching the fusion show now and its different to last week, but as to whether its better or not, its too early to tell. Certainly those that used to enjoy the full show including nudes, for free, are still going to miss out, but as I've said, if they wanted it all for free, then tough, no sympathies for those that want everything for free all the time. Those that call in, there should be some way of giving them the exclusive for free though, and I've messaged ETV to say this. as for my suggestion, I'd say that due to scheduling, they'd have this planned before my suggestion was made. but who knows, maybe I am the ETV director in disguise, as some still think lol |
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kennyboy2012 wrote:and I can understand FTA viewers being unhappy, now that they have lost nudity, and must pay for it. To be honest, I don't have an issue with people having to pay for what they want. The callers are paying though, but theres probably a few on this forum that wont pay, they just want it for free. No time for that idea. Pay and play, or go away. You don't get to watch films at the cinema for free , or go and watch a a play for free, and you don't go to work unless you get paid. so why should ETV be different? but that's towards those that wont pay anything whatever ETV do, but still want everything that those that pay get. Kenny what you fail to understand is that for years ETV had a winning formula even if I was never an avid fan of the channel I always had a healthy respect for what they were doing and always used to wish that the UK shows would adopt a lot of there ideas. Why the hell should anybody have to be given a code Kenny to watch something that should be FTA. You fail to understand that callers and those who are shy can send in an SMS request is what pays for the shows. If 2016 is just away to get even more tame and censored than the year that we've just left then don't expect it to see 2016 out, no show Kenny and no option of an exclusive, when that day comes will you still stay as stuburn and stick to your guns, you've already complained several times in recent months about how much tamer the exclusives have become yet you still stick by this sham. |
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kennyboy2012 wrote:now we know how 2+2 makes 78 Well... you have yards I have meters... You have pounds I have kilograms, you drive leftside I stay on the right side of the road...logics can be different  :I'm not talking about the concept... I just saw your request on the wall and today I see Ivo and the gang applying almost your suggestion As consequence there will be no more NS. Becouse the core of the discussion is the NS constantly robbed in favour of privat shows, almost peepshows. Is it so strange that old customers, who have been, and stilla are so mistreated by ETV attitude, could be upset? |
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Scottishbloke wrote:I'd be interested to know Kenny's take on this seeing that he is ETV's biggest exclusive fan maybe not the biggest fan but I do like the channel, otherwise I wouldn't still be watching. Well, watching some of the shows anyway. anyway, my thoughts on 4 fusion shows per week. Nope, doesn't work for me. I can understand the theory of a fusion show, quicker turn abounds, plus they can keep exclusive viewers happy and have the FTA show feed aswell, all for the same girls and same crew. less cost and two streams more often. BUT for me, it doesn't work. an exclusive for me, is the girl or girls, in a separate studio, doing something special. This fusion is not that. I recall the old exclusives. The girl would nip into the other studio and less than 5mins later, do the request, and then return straight away. the other studio was simple, just a few platforms, a pole, a couch, that's was it, simple and effective. Now the studios are all arty and complex, and the girls take 10mins to go to the studio, Are they taking a taxi? but seriously, exclusives would be better if they were more simple and straight forward, and also a lot quicker on the turnaround. and I can understand FTA viewers being unhappy, now that they have lost nudity, and must pay for it. To be honest, I don't have an issue with people having to pay for what they want. The callers are paying though, but theres probably a few on this forum that wont pay, they just want it for free. No time for that idea. Pay and play, or go away. You don't get to watch films at the cinema for free , or go and watch a a play for free, and you don't go to work unless you get paid. so why should ETV be different? but that's towards those that wont pay anything whatever ETV do, but still want everything that those that pay get. for the callers, maybe they should be given a code to be able to watch the exclusives that night? |
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Seems eTV as a mouse, which itself got lost in a maze.
And now desperately looking for the hole. Every day new names for the same shows. Really confusing and even less logical. You do not find the way out (more money). |
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Firstly I am somewhat confused with the amount of different ETV Threads, why can't one Thread just be used seeing that at the end of day the tone of the discussions and arguments will stay the same. For me I'm more of a passive ETV viewer as most nights I'll record the show but only bother to watch it back once it has finished, this way its a lot let painless.
As I said on the S66 Thread one of my biggest regrets wasn't learning how to record the streams sooner as I fear I may have missed the golden era of the babe channels which includes ETV ofcourse, a channel which I actually discovered on myfreepaysite which also used to stream live coverage from the Big Sister club (great viewing back in that era) I would like to think that now its 2016 that ETV may have learned mistakes from the past year but for as long as they maintain support from a section who have no issues whatsoever who support this sham then nothing will change  GeorgeSK wrote:Out of curiosity I clicked on the description of the Fusion show. They changed the definition of the show just today. They changed it from the split studio concept (which clearly failed with it's concept of nudity only in exclusive) to a split cam concept, so basically it will be a night show just the usual pussy close-ups will be only in exclusive. Not much better, IMHO. Who would pay for something they could see for free just last month? I'd be interested to know Kenny's take on this seeing that he is ETV's biggest exclusive fan 
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JBGOOD wrote:What Ivo is doing today recall me the worker that, after having made a big mistake and being close to loose his job, goes to the boss and resigns (shouting: "it's me that goes away") before being correctly fired now we know how 2+2 makes 78 that's the logic of jbgood my suggestion is nothing like the fusion shows, totally different, and if you watch one, you will see that. and just for the record, I've just posted to the etv wall, aqainst the fusion shows in their current form. |
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lucifer70 wrote:I don't watch at ETV continuously for a long time, but in most cases, every time I take a look at the screen, I see a message from one named WK who asked absurd and repetitive show at almost all the models. hate to pee on your fire Lucifer, but I certainly don't ask all the girls. There's only a few, and only for exclusives. You must have just watched at all the very moments I made requests also, there are fewer request at the moment, so mine seem to be more than most, but as I say, only for select girls. as for the requests, who are you to judge my requests? if you have your own, then make them, but if not, what right have you to call my requests absurd and repetitive, they are less so than your comment. and of course I'm not a real customer. I know etv have made false request up on occasions, but if there are so many of my request as you say, and so absurd, then your suggestion that I am a fake customer is implausible have a nice day
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What Ivo is doing today recall me the worker that, after having made a big mistake and being close to loose his job, goes to the boss and resigns (shouting: "it's me that goes away") before being correctly fired
GeorgeSK wrote:Out of curiosity I clicked on the description of the Fusion show. They changed the definition of the show just today. They changed it from the split studio concept (which clearly failed) to a split cam concept, so basically it will be a night show just the usual pussy close-ups will be only in exclusive. Not much better, IMHO. Who would pay for something they could see for free just last month? Edit: Now we know who thank New Show Ideas WK Sunday, 3rd Jan 2016 WK: an idea for a show. Take the setup for the 4hr Sunday shows, the bed in the studio, and add a static camera on a tripod as if used by a professional photographer for static photos, close enough for good details and still able to get the whole model on the shot. add a cable remote so the girl can pose and take the photos herself, and now add a camera right by the static camera to get the same view and angle, but not using the actual static camera display. The show is basically the girls, one at a time, doing a self shot photo session. each girl can be as daring or as safe as she wants, she makes the poses and chooses what and how much to show. The feed for the premium stream can be simply the view shown, no director needed, no different cameras or suddenly switching angles. the show is a full constant feed, of the one camera, and the girl is the only one that decides what to show etc. We could have each girl do two sessions, so all the girls do a session and then while back in the fta studio, they can get any requests or comments, and then go back for a second session, so if for example, we have 5 girls in the studio, then we have 10 photo sessions in the whole show, some of these could be 2 girl sessions, if there were 6 girls in the show. WK |
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Out of curiosity I clicked on the description of the Fusion show. They changed the definition of the show just today. They changed it from the split studio concept (which clearly failed with it's concept of nudity only in exclusive) to a split cam concept, so basically it will be a night show just the usual pussy close-ups will be only in exclusive. Not much better, IMHO. Who would pay for something they could see for free just last month?
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stegiato wrote:Hi everybody, after a while of reflection i'm back on the forum, i thought about last times of Etv, last words they said and wrote ( i can do many examples) , last words that ETv girls said and are still saying, i did my counts and i realized that i was a stupid chicken in believe they want create something new that exalts women body, i was a fool in believe that girls do what they like or want on screen, i was an idiot in believe that action was spontaneous, ALL THEY SAY (staff and girls) are lies to cheat viewers, to hide their garbage, they fool everyday viewers, web customers and mostly callers (i never did a call but i respect callers). You had so right and find the right words. 
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