Eurotic TV - General Discussion

Yesterday i wrote some few words regarding my ETV consideration, i did not know yet the new Fusion show and placed on all week, i won't judge their decision, weeks ago on the wall they wrote in reply to message of WK (i'm not sure he can confirm) that only 5% of viewers make calls, and the remaining 95% watch, so this is an attempt to make pay also many others and take off to all this 95 % what there was before, so looking in maths terms it could be right, they say 5% remain to call and of the 95 % 30 will buy and 70 will go, i suppose... where is the problem? In this choice there is first of all a problem of contents through curtain we can see what happening in "closer view" and it was a total nothing the same nothing happening in studio, ok the price is only 2 crdts, but i think is not a problem of costs, some night i have no problem to spend a coca cola cost for watch something real erotic, intriguing and welldone, but for sure i won't watch neither for free a girl standing naked on a side in front of a camera trying to find the worst angles possibles, yesterday i preferred watch Homeland (at least there is suspence)
In second place in this choice there is no industrial plan, why not try to enlarge the mass of viewers to find some new callers and some new buyer?Instead of growing (clearly u grow only with good contents) they decided to skim actual roster of viewers.
My stupid suggestion is to bring back at least 5 on 7 a good Ns and use it as pulling for every other initiative, that must be well done with accuracy and mostly with passion.

Tonight was a coherent shambles, ETV's worst show ever, I've seen some bad shows in the past but this one had to be ultimate number 1 disaster, total train wreck from start to finish. What an embarrassment, I'll get my coat

kennyboy2012 wrote:

badrus wrote:

Scottishbloke wrote:Who would have thought it the UK shows tonight are like hardcore pornography compared to the shambolic mess that ETV are putting on, I remember saying to Kenny months ago that supporting the exclusives would ultimately lead to the destruction of this channel, how soon now will it be before what they are showing now as FTA will become the next batch of exclusive when you have to pay just to see a pair of boobs

Kenny you may not have any direct links to the channel but shame on you from promoting exclusive for all these months as this is ultimately the end result of your tireless campaigning, well done I hope you are satisfied just make sure that when the funeral takes place that you are leading the service.

you are right on and lectures about etv he has no clue the other internet sites are better and shows what he thinks excl will etv is like a kids show

so why are you still here whinging like a big kid then, why don't you go elsewhere then, or do you just like to constantly whine and whinge like a little girl.
you are no longer worthy of a reply, you have nothing of use to say, and to exchange with you is pointless

because you have been wrong about every facet of etv the excl a year ago in the daytime shows where they belong were worth watching but every show you have said was good has not even been better than night shows of a year ago on back so don't try to use anything against your way as whining since I don't see many people agreeing with you so your only answer is to come back with insults everything I told you from when you first came here is coming true they don't listen to there viewers even if you have spent money and I spent enough and since I stopped no one on this forum have ever said anything has improved with exception of you and you have complained too lately and I will let you in on a few things be nicer to the girls I have heard from a few about the so called wk

kennyboy2012 wrote:Lets be realistic. ETV's customer base is probably 100's or 1000's bigger than the number of unhappy customers on this forum.
so that customer base must be quite happy with the product on offer.
so regardless of what we say on the forum, how many predict the end of ETV, I think it may just last a bit longer than a few predict, and that's without their non-paying input

Well, if you count the number of VIP's and compare them with how many they USED to have, and read the names at the bottom of the unfaked ones, you will notice that all the VIPs nowadays are sent by the same 5-6 guys, and they are all addressed to the particular model that particular customer is infatuated with.

Meanwhile, as Ju said, "All the girls are waiting for calls". And will probably have to wait.

Sorry that are gangsters and totally stupid. Without any notice what viewers/customer want they realise their concept.

Some ns before they got request for full strips and they do max topless shows and now they get requests for leg and feet shows in the studio and put a fullstrip on top to show this only in ex. what a crap. No requests for an ex shows so they must do someting to make more ex shows. What ju title as to hot for tv was a joke. They had no respect for the viewers.

All ex enthusiast, you must not answer, but you will not understand that from the beginning of etv the program was not free. A lot of people had paid for the show and they paid only while the offer from etv was good and they like this. You are so interested that no one use etv for free. I hope you gave money to firefox, wikipedia and all the other free services in internet, if you use them for free. But that was the same finance concept what etv use from the begining on. Some people send advertising messages, some like the show and pay a little bit more for calls or wishes. A lot of people like the program and use it and from this people some more pay and so on. But this is something that all the old viewers know, but this will be ignored by all the ex enthusiast, because it fit not in their universe, that everyone had to pay for everything, but I think they all will use the free internetservices and open source tools. I hope that they all pay for opensource and all the free services in internet.

This shared finance would now destroied with the new format. Etv would lose more calls and wishes. I think the ex enthusiast cant correct that and with the new format it would be harder for etv to find new customers, or would you buy, if the shop owner said to you, you must pay to see thru the window. I would not do that.

Their first big mistake they had now correct after 1 year, the girls had headsets in ex, but now they lose callers.

wow ju said all girls wait for calls!!!

I save more and more money no new credits, no new hdd and more sleep

Wilsonsand wrote:kenny, with all respects, something is going bad there when the balance in 2015 is 14 regular models less than 2014.

54 models have left ETV in 2015, they have reduced the crew, premiums are disappeared, exclusives boring and scandalously tamed down with usual terrible darkness and censorship, night shows destroyed, the wall full of fake compliments from fake users, and promotions for selling credits one after another. And i have no data, but i see much less sms on the plasmas and very often boring models without callings.

But hey, the exclusives are really good because we can see Kia tits from a "closer point".

ps: and many models left, but nobody knows what is still Sandra doing there so many hours in the morning like a clown. Does anybody knows?
ps2: and don´t forget there are many members who are actually not ready to pay a cent for the current shows, but they would be really happy to pay again if they make better shows, but it´s obvious ETV is working for a new market.

yes, there are fewer models. some will have left anyway, but yes, they should have more replacements, but there is a steady flow coming in, and a few are staying so maybe it will take a while to build back up. Maybe ETV have competition locally, that's offering better contracts maybe. I do think the need more newer girls, but yes, they need more,
crew reductions are happening everywhere in every industry though. but again they have reduced too much, using remote operated cams has not been as good as manned cameras.
the censorship we all agree on, I have made plenty of comments both here and on the wall about the taming down and increased censorship levels.
nights shows arent as good as a result of the censorship, that's true,
a lot of the fake compliments and messages have stopped, thank goodness, there may still be a few and I think there's also a few new customers still in the honeymoon period. or with simpler needs.

I would say the number of messages may actual be increasing in some shows , but that's just from what I've seen, and non of us know for sure, the various income streams used by ETV. don't forget, they can sell their huge video collection to new markets for fresh income.

as for Sandra,, I have no answers for her lol

but at the end of the day, we either like it and buy it or we don't. discussions here wont make any differences

kenny, with all respects, something is going bad there when the balance in 2015 is 14 regular models less than 2014.

54 models have left ETV in 2015, they have reduced the crew, premiums are disappeared, exclusives boring and scandalously tamed down with usual terrible darkness and censorship, night shows destroyed, the wall full of fake compliments from fake users, and promotions for selling credits one after another. And i have no data, but i see much less sms on the plasmas and very often boring models without callings.

But hey, the exclusives are really good because we can see Kia tits from a "closer point".

ps: and many models left, but nobody knows what is still Sandra doing there so many hours in the morning like a clown. Does anybody knows?
ps2: and don´t forget there are many members (i personally know a lot, and some usually were spending a lot of money) who are actually not ready to pay a cent for the current shows, but they would be really happy to pay again if they make better shows, but it´s obvious ETV is working for a new market.

GeorgeSK wrote:

kennyboy2012 wrote:OK, firstly, I disagree about what should be FTA. there is no God given right to what should free to watch., ETV is a business and as such they decide what they offer for free and what they offer for charge. WE, as customers then decide if we will pay for the chargeable.

Yes, they are a business. But you have to ask yourself: Does ETV offer me a better product for the increased cost they are asking now? Or just a fancy new packaging? Fusion imo is the secomd one. And the customers will vote with their feet and will go to the competition.

maybe, Customers should indeed vote with the feet, but you have to compare with what's available now, not was available in the past. What ETV are offering at the moment, compared with what else is available. If you like it, you will stay and possibly pay, if not, then you will leave and go elsewhere, that's business, that's the way it should be
What I can never understand is those that post and claim that they haven't paid anything in months and will never pay again. In that case, why stay and just whine all the time. They are no longer customers and say they never will be again, so ETV will have no interest in their thoughts. so why stay and constantly complain about something they will never use again? Unless they claim not to, but in truth, they are actually still using ETV and are still paying?

This is just guesswork though, I don't know what others do, and to be honest, I don't care, there's a few on here that I now only reply to because its quite amusing watching them react, and some on here make valid and sensible points, and I enjoy discussions with them.

kennyboy2012 wrote:Lets be realistic. ETV's customer base is probably 100's or 1000's bigger than the number of unhappy customers on this forum.
so that customer base must be quite happy with the product on offer.

So what is the reason to keep FTA, alive if they are able to keep on going with the good product offered on web?. Shut down FTA broadcasting forever.

kennyboy2012 wrote:OK, firstly, I disagree about what should be FTA. there is no God given right to what should free to watch., ETV is a business and as such they decide what they offer for free and what they offer for charge. WE, as customers then decide if we will pay for the chargeable.

Yes, they are a business. But you have to ask yourself: Does ETV offer me a better product for the increased cost they are asking now? Or just a fancy new packaging? Fusion imo is the second one. And the customers will vote with their feet and will go to the competition.

badrus wrote:

Scottishbloke wrote:Who would have thought it the UK shows tonight are like hardcore pornography compared to the shambolic mess that ETV are putting on, I remember saying to Kenny months ago that supporting the exclusives would ultimately lead to the destruction of this channel, how soon now will it be before what they are showing now as FTA will become the next batch of exclusive when you have to pay just to see a pair of boobs

Kenny you may not have any direct links to the channel but shame on you from promoting exclusive for all these months as this is ultimately the end result of your tireless campaigning, well done I hope you are satisfied just make sure that when the funeral takes place that you are leading the service.

you are right on and lectures about etv he has no clue the other internet sites are better and shows what he thinks excl will etv is like a kids show

so why are you still here whinging like a big kid then, why don't you go elsewhere then, or do you just like to constantly whine and whinge like a little girl.
you are no longer worthy of a reply, you have nothing of use to say, and to exchange with you is pointless

Scottishbloke wrote:Who would have thought it the UK shows tonight are like hardcore pornography compared to the shambolic mess that ETV are putting on, I remember saying to Kenny months ago that supporting the exclusives would ultimately lead to the destruction of this channel, how soon now will it be before what they are showing now as FTA will become the next batch of exclusive when you have to pay just to see a pair of boobs

Kenny you may not have any direct links to the channel but shame on you from promoting exclusive for all these months as this is ultimately the end result of your tireless campaigning, well done I hope you are satisfied just make sure that when the funeral takes place that you are leading the service.

Who would have thought it the UK shows tonight are like hardcore pornography compared to the shambolic mess that ETV are putting on,
well the web, including the UK, has always offered hardcore porn, for many years, for free. that's nothing new, but the TV channels in the UK no longer offer more than topless for free. Restrictions imposed by government have seen to that.

actually, I am happy with myself watching what I am watching for a mere 2 credits, it's quite a good deal.

Also, I much prefer exclusives and although everyone is predicting the end of ETV, they have been doing that for 6 months at least.

Lets be realistic. ETV's customer base is probably 100's or 1000's bigger than the number of unhappy customers on this forum.
so that customer base must be quite happy with the product on offer.
so regardless of what we say on the forum, how many predict the end of ETV, I think it may just last a bit longer than a few predict, and that's without their non-paying input

Scottishbloke wrote:.... how soon now will it be before what they are showing now as FTA will become the next batch of exclusive when you have to pay just to see a pair of boobs .

i agree, and what is worse, to see a pair of boobs you have seen hundreds times for free. So there is not even the "novelty" factor.

Scottishbloke wrote:Who would have thought it the UK shows tonight are like hardcore pornography compared to the shambolic mess that ETV are putting on, I remember saying to Kenny months ago that supporting the exclusives would ultimately lead to the destruction of this channel, how soon now will it be before what they are showing now as FTA will become the next batch of exclusive when you have to pay just to see a pair of boobs

Kenny you may not have any direct links to the channel but shame on you from promoting exclusive for all these months as this is ultimately the end result of your tireless campaigning, well done I hope you are satisfied just make sure that when the funeral takes place that you are leading the service.

you are right on and lectures about etv he has no clue the other internet sites are better and shows what he thinks excl will etv is like a kids show

Who would have thought it the UK shows tonight are like hardcore pornography compared to the shambolic mess that ETV are putting on, I remember saying to Kenny months ago that supporting the exclusives would ultimately lead to the destruction of this channel, how soon now will it be before what they are showing now as FTA will become the next batch of exclusive when you have to pay just to see a pair of boobs

Kenny you may not have any direct links to the channel but shame on you from promoting exclusive for all these months as this is ultimately the end result of your tireless campaigning, well done I hope you are satisfied just make sure that when the funeral takes place that you are leading the service.