Eurotic TV - General Discussion

tunturi wrote:"15102004"
You're right, many memory is short and etv-team knows it exactly,
a few days of complaints, and that's it, that's nothing special, unfortunately.

People need to man up and keep the promises made to themselves not to spend on ETV, like the boycott thread, and not to start again after 4-5 days. I know it is difficult because I know firsthand that ETV with it's live factor can be addictive. And I am writing this as a former quite satisfied customer. The last straw was an unfulfilled wish in exclusive during one of those boring 5 hour afternoon shows. And we had one similar wish but for the studio this afternoon and they bluntly said they were not gonna do it though they did it a bazillion times before. And didn;t even refund the credits but did something the viewer didn't ask for. This is a total disrespect of their own customers.

If you went to a shop and they would show such a disrespect and would cheat you out of your money you wouldn't return there. You may even file a complaint with the resonsible bodies or even the police. ETV is a business like any other so don't complain if you are always returning for another round of abuse from them instead of leaving them for good.

"15102004"
You're right, many memory is short and etv-team knows it exactly,
a few days of complaints, and that's it, that's nothing special, unfortunately.

I read a lot of complaints here and there, i think that's right but i also guess that a lot of complainers today will be again customers tomorrow as nothing is happened.
It's already occurred with the introduction of the exclusives in the NS but after few days it was just like nothing was happened.
ETV perfectly knows it, they know their customers and the how treat them.
They can do what they want as they are doing since more than 10 years.

Deleting today's date in the directory etvshow.com.
A reason: persistent poor technical quality of the connection, deficiency is not the fault of my provider,
Exclusive Video gets into the library after 6 weeks and it is not full,
girls that are a year or more before the cameras are visible disgust or they are gone.
I eUrotic will continue to watch the Astra, because I have 40 account credit for which you sometimes buy videos. I'm not going to give them up in favor of someone who caused my withdrawal.
I wish viewers and contributors early return "etvshow.com" to gauge the meaning of an income for us.
Juraj

TazDevil wrote:

tux.friend wrote:Also I think that the viewer and customer base of etv is not so big as some people guess. Why, the easiest way to make money is to market places for advertising, but this depends on parallel views on the tv or on clicks at the website within a month or google searchs and hits. I know a midrange blog with 10000 clicks starts to be interesting for companys to place advertising. But there was no advertising on the etv site and we know etv bosses do everything to make money.

Currently their website receives 4,000 Daily Unique Visitors with 14,800 (3.70 per visitor) Daily Page Views (freely available on the web). I happen to remember earlier in the year, about June I think, they were getting 6,000 Daily Unique Visitors. So if this data is accurate, there has been a customer base loss of one third, and who is to say or not if that third spent more or less than the remaining two thirds!

Dont trust this web statistics, this all estimations with a big delta. The only statistic had the webserver himself and this was in the hand of etv and the server provider.


liveshow-tv.com is on rank1 for similar websites

another the webserver for etv is located in the usa and etv decline by 3505 ranks in the alexa ranking for the last 3 month.

another says 20000 unique visitors and 100000 views, server is in the usa. Yeah our account information had the nsa

for all statistic fans, that is an delta.
My math professors says always, only trust this statistics, you had self faked.


ps: etvshow.com has a global traffic ranking of 136,350 in the world. This site is estimated worth of US Dollar $ 150,000.00 and have a daily income of around $ 250.00 US Dollar.

pps: Alexa Rank:196,559 (-10% over the last 3 months), Website Worth: $5,653.85 Daily Pageviews: 5,342 Daily Visitors: 2,428 Daily Ads Revenue: $15.49

ppps: Alexa Rank 145074 Pageviews 7.58K/ Day Worth $ 17.87K

tux.friend wrote:Also I think that the viewer and customer base of etv is not so big as some people guess. Why, the easiest way to make money is to market places for advertising, but this depends on parallel views on the tv or on clicks at the website within a month or google searchs and hits. I know a midrange blog with 10000 clicks starts to be interesting for companys to place advertising. But there was no advertising on the etv site and we know etv bosses do everything to make money.

Currently their website receives 4,000 Daily Unique Visitors with 14,800 (3.70 per visitor) Daily Page Views (freely available on the web). I happen to remember earlier in the year, about June I think, they were getting 6,000 Daily Unique Visitors. So if this data is accurate, there has been a customer base loss of one third, and who is to say or not if that third spent more or less than the remaining two thirds!

GeorgeSK wrote:[quote='tux.friend']

ETV needs a real advertising campaign and new platforms, like smatphone and TV apps.

...and online shows with hot enough content that members want to spend their credits on these shows and then eagerly want to top up their credits again and again because the paid shows are worth the cost (in my opinion, they are failing in this regard currently, there are many, many other free and cheaper paid for website with erotic videos, that are better and not pornographic either)

Yes Lol soon you'll have to go to exclusive just to see the face

how ETV will satisfy the tastes of all muslims...

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connell wrote:I don't understand the new concept.

No more "Show" on TV, the old TV Show is calling now Exclusive and the Exclusive Show is died.
No one can happy now. Not with the TV Show and not with the internet show.

you're absolutely right!

I don't understand the new concept.

No more "Show" on TV, the old TV Show is calling now Exclusive and the Exclusive Show is died.
No one can happy now. Not with the TV Show and not with the internet show.

tux.friend wrote:The reason is, the fta is the only marketing and advertising that etv had. ETV need it.

Also I think that the viewer and customer base of etv is not so big as some people guess.

As I said in my post below, satellite TV and TV viewership in general is on decline. Even in a big market, like Britain, TV viewership declined by 12% year on year. More and more people want watch to stuff when they have time not when the TV company decides to show it.

I used to watch satellite TV for hours just 10-15 years ago, now not that much. Now I have Internet - Netflix for TV shows and movies, Youtube for interesting things, sex and fetish sites for my sexual interests.This logically means that with the decline of TV viewers there is a decline in VIP messages and calls.

I also think that ETV viewership is aging (including me ) and has less money than it used to have or other priorities (sorry if I am wrong)

ETV needs a real advertising campaign and new platforms, like smatphone and TV apps.

JBGOOD wrote:

kennyboy2012 wrote:Lets be realistic. ETV's customer base is probably 100's or 1000's bigger than the number of unhappy customers on this forum.
so that customer base must be quite happy with the product on offer.

So what is the reason to keep FTA, alive if they are able to keep on going with the good product offered on web?. Shut down FTA broadcasting forever.

The reason is, the fta is the only marketing and advertising that etv had. ETV need it. What is a good product and no one knows it, thats nothing. If there was no fta who would find etv or eurotic or etvshow. 10 or 15 years ago if you put one word into the internetsearch, it would be fine if you got some hits, today you good millions of hits for the same keywords and etv is not so importand that, if you dont use the above keywords, you good hits at one of the first pages. If you know the etv site you dont need the search, but what is if you dont know the etv site, where will you find etv? The best and fastes way is a channel search on astra which a stepping thru the fta channels.

Also I think that the viewer and customer base of etv is not so big as some people guess. Why, the easiest way to make money is to market places for advertising, but this depends on parallel views on the tv or on clicks at the website within a month or google searchs and hits. I know a midrange blog with 10000 clicks starts to be interesting for companys to place advertising. But there was no advertising on the etv site and we know etv bosses do everything to make money.

stegiato wrote:Yesterday i wrote some few words regarding my ETV consideration, i did not know yet the new Fusion show and placed on all week, i won't judge their decision, weeks ago on the wall they wrote in reply to message of WK (i'm not sure he can confirm) that only 5% of viewers make calls, and the remaining 95% watch, so this is an attempt to make pay also many others and take off to all this 95 % what there was before, so looking in maths terms it could be right, they say 5% remain to call and of the 95 % 30 will buy and 70 will go, i suppose... where is the problem? In this choice there is first of all a problem of contents through curtain we can see what happening in "closer view" and it was a total nothing the same nothing happening in studio, ok the price is only 2 crdts, but i think is not a problem of costs, some night i have no problem to spend a coca cola cost for watch something real erotic, intriguing and welldone, but for sure i won't watch neither for free a girl standing naked on a side in front of a camera trying to find the worst angles possibles, yesterday i preferred watch Homeland (at least there is suspence)
In second place in this choice there is no industrial plan, why not try to enlarge the mass of viewers to find some new callers and some new buyer?Instead of growing (clearly u grow only with good contents) they decided to skim actual roster of viewers.
My stupid suggestion is to bring back at least 5 on 7 a good Ns and use it as pulling for every other initiative, that must be well done with accuracy and mostly with passion.

Hi Stegiato.
Yes I recall reading that on the etv wall, that they are now going to concentrate on the internet and internet shows at the expense of callers, who are only a small percentage of viewers.

At the time I thought this made sense, there's a growing number of internet users compared with TV, so maybe its where they do need to aim. I think the biggest issue and the biggest reason for loss, is the taming down of whats allowed to be seen. Looking back to the last Free Wishes Show, and at that time, compared with now, is such a big difference. To my mind, they need to address this above all other. If they started offering hot shows again, then I think they would get more income, but as it is, my expenditure has dropped a lot.

as for the 'closer' show, there were stages where one camera showed through the curtain and it looked tame, and to be fair, it mostly was, but for the premium feed, there was another camera giving some nice close ups. Problem is, the girls are all now ensuring that nothing can be seen except standard nude. Even girls that have always been more relaxed about showing more, are covering up and also ensuring that the other girls don't show anything without realising.
I don't know what the change of plan is, regarding levels. Are the girls now on different payment levels and they have chosen to offer less in protest, have they been told to all keep it covered, is there some other reason, maybe a local law change. We don't know, we just see the result, and its not good. This is the first thing they need to fix about all others.
this is just my thoughts only

What is the next step after Fusion? Shower shows renamed dripping shows because they will need to save on their water bill and everything will be shot in infrared because they will have to save on their electricity bill?

Sometimes I have a feeling that it would be best if ETV just closed down gracefully with a big farewell party open to everybody on the Internet and TV than watching this increasing agony and slow death. At least we would have nice memories and videos from this site and not bitterness towards ETV.

I was thinking about why is this happening. And then it hit me - demographics and technology. These days it is most probably middle aged people and older who watch ETV on satellite and call and send messages (if I am wrong I apologise). Watching satellite TV is not the most favourite pastime of the younger generation, they prefer the Internet (on a smartphone or tablet, or even smart TV) and good luck to them if they want to stumble upon ETV if there are tens of thousands of other sites serving every interest from fetish to hardcore.

To be honest, if I didn't buy a new TV which happened to have (as a welcome bonus) an integrated satellite receiver and an old dish on the roof unused for about 8 years i wouldn't have (re)discovered ETV. It is not a coincidence that satellite TV is still strong in Germany and ETV has the most messages from Germany. But satellite TV in this era of Internet and Netflix and Youtube and hardcore websites is not as popular as it was just 10 years ago, in fact TV is in decline in general.

Maybe they need new technology platforms - an app on smart TVs, apps for Android and iOS devices in app stores. And also cable companies who woud carry their signal to those people who do not have satellite TV.