Eurotic TV - General Discussion

imaginator55 wrote:

kennyboy2012 wrote:[quote='pollopollo']Kenny, why do you play always the protector of ETV?

They still need to reduce the censorship levels, its still too tame to what it used to be, but last Friday and the Friday before, were much better, so there is hope that they may work on it and with the new subscription service, they may now focus on improving the exclusive shows and the fusion/splitcam shows Only time will tell

I watched last Friday's show too, all of it, but I must say I was not impressed. This was hardly better than what we have seen in free tv until recently and, contrary to what ETV announced (models trying their limits), none of the models, except perhaps for Destiny, came anywhere close to limits they have reached in the past. And the worst about it all is that the supposedly hot exclusive scenes are interleaved with an incredibly boring free-tv stream where really nothing of interest happens. So unless you record it and watch the hot parts the other day (assuming that the stream did not crash on the way), I can't see how anybody can like the current exclusive show format.

fair enough I do agree the levels are not where they used to be and they still need to fix this. Its really annoying sometimes, watching a girl perform a revealing pose, and the camera zooms away. I have been known to message the team with my thoughts in no uncertain terms

they do need to spice the exclusives up for sure. I'm watching the exclusives at the moment, and its only the level that used to be seen in the free shows, so for an exclusive, its tame

kennyboy2012 wrote:[quote='pollopollo']Kenny, why do you play always the protector of ETV?

They still need to reduce the censorship levels, its still too tame to what it used to be, but last Friday and the Friday before, were much better, so there is hope that they may work on it and with the new subscription service, they may now focus on improving the exclusive shows and the fusion/splitcam shows Only time will tell

I watched last Friday's show too, all of it, but I must say I was not impressed. This was hardly better than what we have seen in free tv until recently and, contrary to what ETV announced (models trying their limits), none of the models, except perhaps for Destiny, came anywhere close to limits they have reached in the past. And the worst about it all is that the supposedly hot exclusive scenes are interleaved with an incredibly boring free-tv stream where really nothing of interest happens. So unless you record it and watch the hot parts the other day (assuming that the stream did not crash on the way), I can't see how anybody can like the current exclusive show format.

connell wrote:Hi Kenny,

when you buy the three Exclusive Energy Shows the week, thats 36 credits the month for the Shows and the Videos.
Now you pay 29,99$ the month and must pay 24 credits for the Videos, because they cost 1 credit more than live.

Where is the price advantage?
you are right, thats the Exclusive Energy the last thing thats worth to watch on ETV.
If you still want to see something positive in ETV.

to be blunt, if you don't watch the exclusives, then its not worth it, but if you do, then it is. I like the exclusives.
so lets do the maths, based on your numbers
that's 36 credits per month, which is approx. $72
if I were to buy the videos, that's 12 credits which is $24
so shows as a subscriber plus videos = $29.99 + $24 - $53.99, a saving of $18 per month.
saying that, now I have a subscription, I get full access to the evening and the night shows (morning and afternoon too, but I'm usually out)
so arguably, I could say I get 31 days x 2 shows, so 62 shows for $29.99
but in regards to the videos, I've heard about screen recorders ;) and to be honest, once ETV cut the best bits from the videos, they aren't always worth it.
the main thing for me is that I will easily save money compared with a non-subscription month.

having said all of that, it all depends on what shows are in the schedule, they may increase the shows I enjoy, or they may make some that I don't bother with, so I wont know for sure until the end of the month, but that's the same for most subscriptions to websites

so for anyone that watches/enjoys the exclusives, it makes sense.

kennyboy2012 wrote:[quote='pollopollo']

Yes, I've subscribed to the shows, for me, its a no brainer at $1 per day. Saying that, ETV may put up the rates, or change other things, so I've only signed up for this month, to see how it goes.
So far, they have added more exclusive style shows, so this makes it better value.
The question over the levels, is still up in the air, I don't consider the fusion and the splitcam shows to be proper exclusive shows, even of they are tagged with the label and included in the subscription.
They still need to reduce the censorship levels, its still too tame to what it used to be, but last Friday and the Friday before, were much better, so there is hope that they may work on it and with the new subscription service, they may now focus on improving the exclusive shows and the fusion/splitcam shows Only time will tell

Hi Kenny,

when you buy the three Exclusive Energy Shows the week, thats 36 credits the month for the Shows and the Videos.
Now you pay 29,99$ the month and must pay 24 credits for the Videos, because they cost 1 credit more than live.

Where is the price advantage?
you are right, thats the Exclusive Energy the last thing thats worth to watch on ETV.
If you still want to see something positive in ETV.

pollopollo wrote:kennyboy2012 wrote:
what do you mean by Tohuwabohu ?

I mean that ETV has difficulties with this business model.
Looking your way, that's good.
But the hustle and bustle of the last few weeks was not good.
The friends of ETV want consistency.

I agree, consistency is very much needed with ETV. I personally think they are still looking to find the right balance. For me, its getting there but there is still work to be done.

kennyboy2012 wrote:
what do you mean by Tohuwabohu ?

I mean that ETV has difficulties with this business model.
Looking your way, that's good.
But the hustle and bustle of the last few weeks was not good.
The friends of ETV want reliability.

pollopollo wrote:Kenny, why do you play always the protector of ETV?
Hard to understand when the Tohuwabohu that currently provides ETV.

what do you mean by Tohuwabohu ?

I don't always protect it, when they screw up or do wrong, then I've posted to say so. My issues are with posts that have no actual substance or evidence or any factual basis.
For example, if someone wants to post to say that they watched the exclusive show last night and it was crap. That's fine, that's their opinion and its good, I may disagree if I thought it was a good show, or I may agree and say it was rubbish. but we can have that discussion politely and fairly.

where I have an issue is with someone posting to say the exclusive was crap, but they didn't actually watch it. basically, they are posted a comment without anything to back it up. they are just posting negativity.

I also disagree with the viewpoint that etv should provide a free show of full nudity, and not be able to charge for it. ETV is a business and needs to charge for its services, it uses the fta as part enticer and part for calls to the girls Certain members think it should all be free and persistently say how they wont pay anything.

these are my viewpoints and opinions. I'm not saying I'm right or wrong, I'm just explaining where I'm coming from .

I would also point out that others have defended ETV but when I do it, I get abuse and I retaliate ., That's something that needs to stop, both the abuse and the retaliation.
and to be clear, your post was not abuse, it was a fair question, and I'm happy to reply and explain

and now back to topic

Yes, I've subscribed to the shows, for me, its a no brainer at $1 per day. Saying that, ETV may put up the rates, or change other things, so I've only signed up for this month, to see how it goes.
So far, they have added more exclusive style shows, so this makes it better value.
The question over the levels, is still up in the air, I don't consider the fusion and the splitcam shows to be proper exclusive shows, even of they are tagged with the label and included in the subscription.
They still need to reduce the censorship levels, its still too tame to what it used to be, but last Friday and the Friday before, were much better, so there is hope that they may work on it and with the new subscription service, they may now focus on improving the exclusive shows and the fusion/splitcam shows Only time will tell

Kenny, why do you play always the protector of ETV?
Hard to understand when the Tohuwabohu that currently provides ETV.

megonehad wrote:Where are models like Sabrina , Nikita , Angie , Carmen ,Kiara , Amy , Gia , spirit who has so sexy tits like my aunt (sister of my mother) and Athina ? they were very sexy models .

Theses were models before I started using ETV. I'd guess that some of them have moved on with their lives, maybe some used ETV to get through college and are now graduated and doing other things, maybe some have stopped modelling for other reasons. Also, some models may have become too exposed, and by this, I don't mean they have shown too much, I mean that have been on screen so much that maybe they need a break for sales figures and to refresh. We'll probably never know the reasons some girls leave. There have been new girls recently that haven't stayed for long, Britany was an example of a lovely girl, that didn't stick around, a real shame.
Of course, some girls simple move to another channel or site, and so are still available.

tunturi wrote:Scottish Bloke after all, tend to write things, but kenny boys write
always only his own self, does not respect the opinions of others, reason, because
he pays, he has a special permissions, be sure not to care, the head thing is for his own pleasure only. (wrote only one loser)

OFFTOPIC - DOES NOT DISCUSS CURRENT ETV / PERSONAL ATTACK - PLEASE IGNORE

unsuwe wrote:

kennyboy2012 wrote:

Scottishbloke wrote:Politically me and Kenny shall never agree on how ETV is run, however on a moral level we will always find some common ground, interesting to note is the difference in the terms compromise as this is what Kenny wrote back on this date when the exclusives were relativelty new.

27th April 2015

kennyboy2012 wrote:I see some don't like the exclusives, but I have to disagree. I only watch for the exclusives.
we have 3 nights of exclusives, and 4 nights without, so if you don't want exclusives, then watch the 4 nights without, simples!
you cant have it all your own way, ETV wouldn't survive if they catered for just one view point, they need to cater for everyones wishes.

To this hm..............

kennyboy2012 wrote:To call them as 7 exclusive nights, they are just as much FTA nights as exclusive nights, but in reality, they are neither, they are a compromise that will not satisfy either group of viewers. The FTA crows will complain that they cant see nude for free, and the exclusive crowd will argue that the shows cant properly do exclusives, so neither group is happy.

Amazing how much ETV have shifted the goalposts backed up from Kenny's statement, they look like they are straight from the horses mouth, are these Kennys words or ETV's I wonder as the opininions are very similar. You are still calling this a compromise, well if statement A is a compromise what does that make your latest one.

Answers on a postcard please

this is getting boring, What exactly is your point? are you posting about ETV or just (trying to ) have a dig at me?

if its about ETV, then try and make the point clearly and focused on ETV.
if its to have a dig at me, then save your energy, I'm not biting

Thats enough! You can fight privately ,but not here!

hes dragging it on, not me. I posted about etv and he tries to rake up old stuff!

Just to be clear, there are a small group that all band together, slate and post against etv and anyone that doesn't hate etv. if you argue with one of them, they all join in as a group to have a go at you.
if you try and correct them or offer any comments that they don't like, they all group and attack. Its pathetic, its like a group of bullying schoolgirls
just look through the forum, its always the same ones, all posting and sticking together
that's probably why this forum is full of mainly etv haters,. because everyone else is p***ed off with all the abuse and crap
there are some good posts with good points for and against ETV but they we just get the same old line from the whingers

I'd happily discuss etv , the pro's and con's but all that happens is that the haters post anti etv comments, based on the old days and crap like that.

if anything needs to happen its that this forum needs to stick to sensible discussion about etv and stop the personal abuse.

maybe we should have a new thread called , etv the good old days, so they can post in there, and then allow discussion about the current etv in this thread without constant posts about how it was so good years ago

EDIT
OK, everyone is fedup of the crap post., so from now on, any posts that are off-topic or have a personal attack, I'm just going to label them as

OFFTOPIC - DOES NOT DISCUSS CURRENT ETV / PERSONAL ATTACK - PLEASE IGNORE

I suggest others do likewise

Scottish Bloke after all, tend to write things, but kenny boys write
always only his own self, does not respect the opinions of others, reason, because
he pays, he has a special permissions, be sure not to care, the head thing is for his own pleasure only. (wrote only one loser)

Where are models like Sabrina , Nikita , Angie , Carmen ,Kiara , Amy , Gia , spirit who has so sexy tits like my aunt (sister of my mother) and Athina ? they were very sexy models .

kennyboy2012 wrote:

Scottishbloke wrote:Politically me and Kenny shall never agree on how ETV is run, however on a moral level we will always find some common ground, interesting to note is the difference in the terms compromise as this is what Kenny wrote back on this date when the exclusives were relativelty new.

27th April 2015

kennyboy2012 wrote:I see some don't like the exclusives, but I have to disagree. I only watch for the exclusives.
we have 3 nights of exclusives, and 4 nights without, so if you don't want exclusives, then watch the 4 nights without, simples!
you cant have it all your own way, ETV wouldn't survive if they catered for just one view point, they need to cater for everyones wishes.

To this hm..............

kennyboy2012 wrote:To call them as 7 exclusive nights, they are just as much FTA nights as exclusive nights, but in reality, they are neither, they are a compromise that will not satisfy either group of viewers. The FTA crows will complain that they cant see nude for free, and the exclusive crowd will argue that the shows cant properly do exclusives, so neither group is happy.

Amazing how much ETV have shifted the goalposts backed up from Kenny's statement, they look like they are straight from the horses mouth, are these Kennys words or ETV's I wonder as the opininions are very similar. You are still calling this a compromise, well if statement A is a compromise what does that make your latest one.

Answers on a postcard please

this is getting boring, What exactly is your point? are you posting about ETV or just (trying to ) have a dig at me?

if its about ETV, then try and make the point clearly and focused on ETV.
if its to have a dig at me, then save your energy, I'm not biting

Thats enough! You can fight privately ,but not here!

Scottishbloke wrote:Politically me and Kenny shall never agree on how ETV is run, however on a moral level we will always find some common ground, interesting to note is the difference in the terms compromise as this is what Kenny wrote back on this date when the exclusives were relativelty new.

27th April 2015

kennyboy2012 wrote:I see some don't like the exclusives, but I have to disagree. I only watch for the exclusives.
we have 3 nights of exclusives, and 4 nights without, so if you don't want exclusives, then watch the 4 nights without, simples!
you cant have it all your own way, ETV wouldn't survive if they catered for just one view point, they need to cater for everyones wishes.

To this hm..............

kennyboy2012 wrote:To call them as 7 exclusive nights, they are just as much FTA nights as exclusive nights, but in reality, they are neither, they are a compromise that will not satisfy either group of viewers. The FTA crows will complain that they cant see nude for free, and the exclusive crowd will argue that the shows cant properly do exclusives, so neither group is happy.

Amazing how much ETV have shifted the goalposts backed up from Kenny's statement, they look like they are straight from the horses mouth, are these Kennys words or ETV's I wonder as the opininions are very similar. You are still calling this a compromise, well if statement A is a compromise what does that make your latest one.

Answers on a postcard please

this is getting boring, What exactly is your point? are you posting about ETV or just (trying to ) have a dig at me?

if its about ETV, then try and make the point clearly and focused on ETV.
if its to have a dig at me, then save your energy, I'm not biting