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kennyboy2012 wrote:in regards to 'the girl next door' I do think there are a few that are girl next door, and a few that are clearly not. Sidra is clearly a pro, Zoe, I don't know (but with that body, I really really don't mind I'd agree with much of this (especially the part about Sidra being clearly a pro  ). Given that we aren't likely ever to meet the models the reality of whether they've previously worked in this or a related industry doesn't worry me. Their appearance and, most importantly, willingness to make an effort is what matters most to me. As an example, for me the contrast between Lauren and Marla is huge. Whereas objectively in terms of looks there might not be much in it, Lauren seems to enjoy what she does. That in itself makes her shows more enjoyable to me. Marla seems much more ambivalent, which I can respect but, at least for me, it makes her appearances somewhat uncomfortable. Rightly or wrongly I would put both in the 'girl next door' category but one of them seems to have so much more fun. I would guess that I'm not alone in preferring the performances where the models seem to be enjoying themselves.
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Slowfox wrote:kennyboy2012 wrote:I reply to vector's comments about his connection issues. I suspect you are just lucky, but I don't begrudge you that! Speaking personally I suffer quite a few problems with the Exclusive stream. I buy shows regularly (though by no means all) and have problems with the stream quite often. Fortunately the problems do usually tend to be resolved fairly quickly. The fact ETV try to suggest it's not their fault is quite annoying, but they may even believe it's the truth! I think the truth is that their hardware is regularly somewhere near its limit and that extra demand (such as with the birthday show) can cause quite serious problems. If they are genuinely short of resources then I suppose it's just the way it is and we can only hope that they can improve things. What their excuse for some of the camera work might be is harder to fathom... |
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kennyboy2012 wrote:I reply to vector's comments about his connection issues. Cannot really say that I have the same issues. The stream is on both fta and internet far more stable then a few months ago. The internet exclusive / premium shows even have a higher bit rate then the TV shows broadcasted via internet. Very rarely these days I get disconnected when recording consecutive hours and hours. An entire nightshow of 7 hours is just one file usually. Almost zero disruption when paying. It reacts fast enough while switching from unencrypted to encrypted that the stream does not get disconnected. I'm on a 50 mbit connection case this makes a difference. Admittedly I do not buy many shows, effectively just a few. Can also be I was just lucky. |
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I'm happy someone enjoyed last night (not polemic post just different points of view)
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I reply to vector's comments about his connection issues.
I sometimes get these issues. The FTA works fine, but the paid stream can freeze, and can sometimes take way too long about paying before it works. I think its just hardware resources not coping. and its wrong to suggest its the customer when the FTA is working fine. |
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vector wrote:Slowfox wrote:kennyboy2012 wrote:.... in regards to 'the girl next door' I do think there are a few that are girl next door, and a few that are clearly not. Sidra is clearly a pro, Zoe, I don't know (but with that body, I really really don't mind  ) whereas Yoko and Destiny, I would suggest are 'girl next door' girls, but this is just guess work on my part, I don't honestly know.But then, if a pro can portray herself as the 'girl next door' then for me, it doesn't really matter that much, we buy into the illusion, into the fantasy, into the escape of our own reality, to enjoy the girls for the times that we watch, but that's just my view as for ETV struggling with the internet side of things, yes they certainly are. There are many internet rivals with fully developed websites that just do the internet, and do it well, whereas ETV have to try and cover TV, internet, and the various TV over the web feeds such as ROKU, and I do think they struggle. the connection issues that we all suffer, I would say are down to insufficient processing resources, that requires investment, but then, if ETV are struggling, they are stuck. I do hope they work at it and get the web streaming reliable. When it works, its quite good, its just the occasional glitches that annoy so much, and it really doesn't help if ETV suggest its the customers connection when the FTA is working fine and the paid stream is the issue. I see this often enough to know that it is an issue for sure. and yes, its good to have a good and fair discussion
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yeah Slow i miss next door girls too, and the bad thing is that thiis clearly professional girls, very cute for real, are sold (bad word for human being) as shy in tv show and super hot in web like if they have a double personality matching the channel they 're performing on.
That's my opinion not the truth |
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Slowfox wrote:kennyboy2012 wrote:.... Slow and I do not always agree. But Slowfox has recognized very well with a clear knowledge and to the point. Those who still "the girl next door" believes in the myth of that is to raise his thumb. I think, my answer is this: 
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tux.friend wrote:vector wrote:07:08 in the morning. I have paid and a stream not found (Premium) Hi. tux.friend, my friend. Let me explain. After a long time I feel compelled to write a somewhat longer answer. ( Actually, I did not feel like it, because my comments are mostly torn here immediately from the context ) I was just awake half an hour after then 07:00 because I had worked a late shift until 24:00 on a construction site. I saw on the "Free Live Stream" Isadora and Isabella. ( And, unfortunately, the clown Sandra ) I considered briefly and am changed on the Premium Stream. Have pushed the Pay button and saw only the black bar. "Stream not found". This "stream not found" haunts me even in my dreams, so many times I've seen it at ETV. It was my fault that I have pushed too early. When I would tell to ETV my problems, then they would say ( as always, because it is their standard answer is ) it's up to my Internet speed. Let me say this: My Internet speed: Provider: Cable Germany Downstream: 100 Mbits Upstream: 6 Mbits [hidden link - please register] In the 21 minutes as I waited for the Premium Stream, I saw on the "free live stream" the clown Sandra and a slightly thicker balding older man funny things do with the clown Sandra. I want to tell all haters who want to insult me now ( Yes, I'm not Mr. Universe ) <= I know that and not put myself in public with a clown to show. This has annoyed me mightily.  If I would allow such errors as an independent contractor ( which I am now sometimes ), I could close my business. Although I have only three employees, but these employees trust me and expect that I do my job properly. ( Not correctly executed work = no jobs ) At "the wall" I do not need to write. My comments are no longer published. And if so, then only the good. My negative comments disappear in Nirvana. Now I have written me my frustration of the soul. It will take some time until I do it again. But sometimes I have to do. regards vector Sorry for my bad english. 
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kennyboy2012 wrote:.... Certainly true.LOL. Also a fair point regarding the development of the internet appearance. But still I have the feeling they are struggling there a little. They bring in new girls, but those 'shy' girls do not really look shy to me but rather experienced, if not professional, with this kind of entertainment. Am referring to girls like Zoe and Sidra, just to name 2. But then who cares, as long as they are willing to deliver what the viewer requests. The 'next door girl', which once was the figurehead of ETV, is disappearing and the channel is increasingly dealing with professionals. At least it appears to me to be like this. But then professionals are easier and easier to be sold, then a whimsy 'next door girl' who is not really willing to show off the last square inch of her body, and further needs to be cheated on as explained in a different comment already. Anyway, wait and see. Also still remains to be seen who has the final word, once they start to measure again their income per customer. Maybe the higher payer draws when asked for his requirements. As a side note, I appreciate and enjoy very much though, that a fair discussion without any animosity is still possible here. Reminds me also of a few years ago.
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that's fair comment.
but I would point out in my supporting wall post, I've said that they need to promote and advertise in advance, that some of the newer girls may appear for an hour, they need to say who will appear in the FFW's show, so that everyone knows before the show starts. That way, there is no confusion, everyone knows who will be where and when, the girls also know in advance, and its by choice. and yes, maybe ETV did well for 8 years without the internet, but times change, and so does the marketplace. in ten years from now, we may all be watching TV over IP, and the web will be the main hub for all entertainment, ETV need to keep up to date and move with the times. Yes, they need TV but more and more is moving to the website or TV via the internet, so its a tough call but they need to cover the internet, or be left behind. Someone recently mentioned that a lot of members have left and gone to Live Jasmin and MyFreeCams, well these are internet based.. my main thoughts though, are that they need to do something with the show, to keep it fresh and not get stale. Maybe they will do another All Giving Tree series, that would be a good move the last was great., we will see At the end of the day, we can put the suggestions to ETV, but they will decide which way they go, we are just passengers buying a ticket for the ride, and having a chat about it here
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kennyboy2012 wrote:TazDevil wrote:Show your support (or not) on the ETV Wall to let more unscheduled models drop in to a show for an hour. It doesn't matter to what extent she does or doesn't takes part in the show when unscheduled, as her involvement wasn't included in the cost, but it is great experience for the model and may result in more models wanting to get involved in future shows. We see presently that the atempts to merge TV and internet do not really ignite. Sometimes the internet is likely good, with the TV show aired the same time being dull. The Sunday, Monday and Wednesday night shows already make the TV studio more a waiting hall for the internet appearances, with them also being very much subject to critics. Now you also want to add friday night to this ? The recent proposal, as can be read on the ETV wall, will even more mess up things, as it will confuse everybody, when girls are put in shows unscheduled, besides the girls presently available are all doing already more hours then contracted. And shall I pay credits for a show I would never buy first place only for the remote possibility to see those I like to see ? That would be buying a pig in the poke. And before you say it .... No, I will never ask for any girl attending a show she is not scheduled for. So, when asked, I am against such an idea. I have nothing against fresh ideas, but in the present pretty fragile environment ETV is maneuvering some stability and consistency is likely the better way forward rather then this frequent trial and error things. The latest changes in the show concepts already look to my like desperate measures, but then again this will be good for maybe 3 or 4 times / weeks. Thereafter people will again ask for something new. Apparently ETV did well some 8 years without internet. I personally also preferred the nice and cosy TV shows. The internet made it too much technical, cam girl like and peep show style. And since then they are struggling to get their business going, either way. |
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TazDevil wrote:Show your support (or not) on the ETV Wall to let more unscheduled models drop in to a show for an hour. It doesn't matter to what extent she does or doesn't takes part in the show when unscheduled, as her involvement wasn't included in the cost, but it is great experience for the model and may result in more models wanting to get involved in future shows. I've added my support, the post is on the wall as Close Encounters 17 November TazMan Tuesday, 17th Nov 2015 if everyone in favour posts support, then maybe.... |
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vector wrote:Now it works. 21 minutes to late. when this has happened to me, I've messaged ETV and asked for a refund, and they have usually given it, 21minutes can seem such a long time, and if you've made a request, you can miss it, which is even more annoying. |
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Show your support (or not) on the ETV Wall to let more unscheduled models drop in to a show for an hour. It doesn't matter to what extent she does or doesn't takes part in the show when unscheduled, as her involvement wasn't included in the cost, but it is great experience for the model and may result in more models wanting to get involved in future shows.
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