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logic wrote:to 1.
In my opinion, the TV shows became boring because of censorship and bad music, even before they started the premium shows. So no real context for me.

to 2.
You're talking about the ELS. Yes, especially for models with a small fan base very demotivating. The ELS should be mainly for callers, but also to fulfill wishes of the viewers. Only sitting and waiting for calls doesn't work.

to 3.
Sorry, you can't compare ETV with other things of real life! It's erotic business - and it was never cheap!

Fully d'accord with all 3 points.

To point 3 I would add that they should definitely bring back the one-model shows for 2 credits.
So why did they stop them ? Propably they are speculating: two-model shows -> same number of viewers than one-model shows = double profit.

News for tonight substitute show.

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ETV News:

More quality streaming available
Thursday, 30th Aug 2012

Good news and new breaking trough to the possibilities of the quality streaming. Now the servers are moved to an European location. This will ensure much better connectivity to all viewers in Europe and will allow higher bit rate. The studio cameras for Exclusive and Premium shows are now improved to work with better HD. The frame aspect ratio is set now to 16:9!


Now we are waiting for a breakthrough to better shows! Shows which earn the name exclusive or premium.
Until now the shows are not hotter than former fta - shows which were free as we all know.

I still can not advice to a friend to buy an etv - account without twinge of conscience.

I also think that stucture for PREMIUM and ELS should change, it is clear the actual one does not work.
Maybe better to come back to what it was in begining and Include some Premium show during ELS, when model decide to do so.
It is clear that when models interact with viewers by answering the messages and there is no camaraman the show is more dynamic, because models feels more confortable and free.
Also one model Shows are better.
Point is how to get the interest back, maybe the only way is to have ELS just with models prepared to do then, this means ready to fulfill the customers request, at least at certain level, otherwise I am very pesimistic about the future of WEB Shows.

@kolokotronis
If you compare ETV with other channels or websites, they're for sure not the cheapest and they never were. But for ETV itself, it's the cheapest offer they ever had. That was what I meant!

15102004 wrote:how different is the world

In my opinion, premium shows are the worst thing they done!

1 - destroying TV shows in favor of Premium, means losing viewers and so potential web-users.

2 - Models without calls, msg, totaly alone in a large part of their shows, are demotivated, sad, and without any want to do something.

3 - Four credits (6/7€ the same price of an international film) for one hour of Molvanian art is quite like a robbery, please don't forget that we are talking about students, aspirant actresses or models, and also some mothers of kids.
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to 1.
In my opinion, the TV shows became boring because of censorship and bad music, even before they started the premium shows. So no real context for me.

to 2.
You're talking about the ELS. Yes, especially for models with a small fan base very demotivating. The ELS should be mainly for callers, but also to fulfill wishes of the viewers. Only sitting and waiting for calls doesn't work.

to 3.
Sorry, you can't compare ETV with other things of real life! It's erotic business - and it was never cheap!

Money makes the world go round.

We all are dedicated to money. You see money destroy a lot. Or is it normal that the Spanish League plays at 11.00 pm?

Or that every League is parted some play Friday, the other Saturday and the last on Sunday.

But as we say, we do everything for the right prize.

logic wrote:Maybe you should change your imagination, what ETV and the premium shows are:

1. The premium shows are made for the combination of erotic and art! Full nudity isn't a "must be", but of course they try to show as most as the models are ready for.
2. You pay for the show itself and not for a fully nude model
3. 2 credits or 4 credits for an uninterrupted show of 1 hour is the cheapest thing ETV ever offered! A VIP in the studio costs 4 credits too (9,99€ for a non-member!!) and you get maybe a show of a few seconds with lot of interrupts. In the past they had even only one plasma and often was a VIP only shown for a few seconds and that's why overlooked by the models. That was a reason to complain!

In my opinion are the premium shows on of the best ideas ETV ever had, only the picture quality needs still an improvement! I don't need a HD resolution. I want a clear picture, even if there are some movements!

how different is the world

In my opinion, premium shows are the worst thing they done!

1 - destroying TV shows in favor of Premium, means losing viewers and so potential web-users.

2 - Models without calls, msg, totaly alone in a large part of their shows, are demotivated, sad, and without any want to do something.

3 - Four credits (6/7€ the same price of an international film) for one hour of Molvanian art is quite like a robbery, please don't forget that we are talking about students, aspirant actresses or models, and also some mothers of kids.

This is the third attempt, they are trying to move their business on web but till now they always failed, their obsession "no money no funny" has deleted every great things they done in the past.
I refer to myself, when they tought only to make great shows, i spent money for them, now... i neither think to do!

regards

The cheapest thing etv ever offered cost about 6.4 euro. For what ? For an hour artistic web shows whithout always totally nude models
Four hours show from shebang tv with hardcore action cost about 3.7 .. What do you think about that? Are etv models so special to pay for them so much money for so soft shows?
I dont think so. It is my opinion

AGINULFO wrote:I saw the last two premium shows, in no way paying, of course.
So much art. Too much art and too little nudity action.
A philosophical question.
A premium show with two models, naked one the other is not (isabella-suzy, angelina-jade, tia-anna), it cost 4 credits.
When they are both naked the cost will be 8 credits?

Maybe you should change your imagination, what ETV and the premium shows are:

1. The premium shows are made for the combination of erotic and art! Full nudity isn't a "must be", but of course they try to show as most as the models are ready for.
2. You pay for the show itself and not for a fully nude model
3. 2 credits or 4 credits for an uninterrupted show of 1 hour is the cheapest thing ETV ever offered! A VIP in the studio costs 4 credits too (9,99€ for a non-member!!) and you get maybe a show of a few seconds with lot of interrupts. In the past they had even only one plasma and often was a VIP only shown for a few seconds and that's why overlooked by the models. That was a reason to complain!

In my opinion are the premium shows on of the best ideas ETV ever had, only the picture quality needs still an improvement! I don't need a HD resolution. I want a clear picture, even if there are some movements!

No prob,

i really don´t understand them ....

No complaints.
It 's just a matter of philosophy (as I wrote).
Commercial philosophy ...

Slow is right,

why complaining when you can watch for free.....

AGINULFO wrote:I saw the last two premium shows, in no way paying, of course.
So much art. Too much art and too little nudity action.
A philosophical question.
A premium show with two models, naked one the other is not (isabella-suzy, angelina-jade, tia-anna), it cost 4 credits.
When they are both naked the cost will be 8 credits?

why complain, since you obviously found a way to get around the payment

slow

At least now some good music between the shows.

And I can fetch a can of popcorn.



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I saw the last two premium shows, in no way paying, of course.
So much art. Too much art and too little nudity action.
A philosophical question.
A premium show with two models, naked one the other is not (isabella-suzy, angelina-jade, tia-anna), it cost 4 credits.
When they are both naked the cost will be 8 credits?