Eurotic's website & webstream

space6969 wrote:[

Chris26 wrote:I don't know about Chaturbate but I guess the countdown system is integrated there so a performer is obliged to do the advertised show once the countdown gets fulfilled.

There's a "report abuse" button, and I've seen performers getting banned just minutes after they didn't deliver what they promised.

I want a report abuse button on ETVShow also!

Chris26 wrote:Much unlike many ETV viewers who act all angry and unsatisfied and then go back to paying the next time like nothing happened.

lol yeah

Chris26 wrote:I don't know about Chaturbate but I guess the countdown system is integrated there so a performer is obliged to do the advertised show once the countdown gets fulfilled.

There's a "report abuse" button, and I've seen performers getting banned just minutes after they didn't deliver what they promised.

space6969 wrote:

Tarl_Cabot wrote:most mfc top models earn more in one night than an etv model in one month and some of them show nothing or nearly nothing.

Can't take issue with you about mfc, but I was refferring to sites like cam4 or chaturbate.
There the performers set goals for certain actions and when the goal is met via tips of the viewers, the performers are well-advised
to do what they promised, because if they don't, next time very few tips will come in.

Don't know what ETV models earn, I would suspect it's rather low, but performers can't grow rich on cam4 and chaturbate also.

That's also some sort of "evolution" of MFC's system. On MFC, much like at ETV, tips (let's call them "SMS" at ETV, as messages on cam sites are free) are just that and do not imply any kind of engagement or commitment (show) by the model who receives them. Technically and legally speaking, if a model sets a "countdown" on MFC (say, "After I reach 4000 tokens I'll get naked"), she's free to just grab those 4000 tokens and disconnect with no consequences.
Apart, of course, from all those who tipped not tipping ever again in the future.

Much unlike many ETV viewers who act all angry and unsatisfied and then go back to paying the next time like nothing happened.

I don't know about Chaturbate but I guess the countdown system is integrated there so a performer is obliged to do the advertised show once the countdown gets fulfilled.

Tarl_Cabot wrote:most mfc top models earn more in one night than an etv model in one month and some of them show nothing or nearly nothing.

Can't take issue with you about mfc, but I was referring to sites like cam4 or chaturbate.
There the performers set goals for certain actions and when the goal is met via tips of the viewers, the performers are well-advised
to do what they promised, because if they don't, next time very few tips will come in.

Don't know what ETV models earn, I would suspect it's rather low, but performers can't grow rich on cam4 and chaturbate also.

This would confirm main ETVShow models QI is quite lower than average and former models as Jane deserve more respect than most of them.
They act like camgirls without earning camgirls money.


I anyway just wanted to suggest Mr.Niceguy (who thinks he paid a too low price for premium show) a way to make his respect profitable for his favourite models.
It wouldn't take too much time to get this feature. 1, 2, 5, 10, 20, 50, 100 credits tip. Or a brand new photocamera.

timfrance wrote:Of course it's an indredibly high price ! Just like the SMSs and VIP SMSs But well, directors know what viewers looking for some p*** are ready to do.

outside wrote:Since they don't know what to do with your respect, because respect is for free, and they are interested only at your money, why don't you propose "tips" system during webshows, just like camgirls portals?
It would be just the final step to be camgirls at all.

space6969 wrote:No, it would be the last but one step, the final step would mean that they would deliver what other camgirls deliver,
if you know what I mean.

Don't get me wrong, I don't want them to become "regular" camgirls.

none of you got a real idea about the costs of webcam shows or what is shown, or?

btw: none of the top camgirls would work for the money etv models get for their job. most mfc top models earn more in one night than an etv model in one month and some of them show nothing or nearly nothing.

outside wrote:It would be just the final step to be camgirls at all.

No, it would be the last but one step, the final step would mean that they would deliver what other camgirls deliver,
if you know what I mean.

Don't get me wrong, I don't want them to become "regular" camgirls.

Mr_Niceguy wrote:I had the privilege to watch the premium show from Mashiara yesterday for 4 hours. It was a fantastic show on many levels. For this I had to pay only 5 credits which is an outrage in my opinion. If the amount were doubled it would still be ridiculously low... how can you put a price on that really? Then I was thinking what can we do to give the models anything close to what they deserve. So I would like to call upon everybody here to show some dignity and respect in your posts, it is the least we can do and the least the girls deserve. What kind of man are you really if you can't even show a woman respect? Now this thread is the worst place in this forum with every bit of respect and decency gone out the window. Make it better. Thank you!

Since they don't know what to do with your respect, because respect is for free, and they are interested only at your money, why don't you propose "tips" system during webshows, just like camgirls portals?
It would be just the final step to be camgirls at all.

Mr_Niceguy wrote:I had the privilege to watch the premium show from Mashiara yesterday for 4 hours. It was a fantastic show on many levels. For this I had to pay only 5 credits which is an outrage in my opinion. If the amount were doubled it would still be ridiculously low... how can you put a price on that really? Then I was thinking what can we do to give the models anything close to what they deserve. So I would like to call upon everybody here to show some dignity and respect in your posts, it is the least we can do and the least the girls deserve. What kind of man are you really if you can't even show a woman respect? Now this thread is the worst place in this forum with every bit of respect and decency gone out the window. Make it better. Thank you!

Of course it's an indredibly high price ! Just like the SMSs and VIP SMSs But well, directors know what viewers looking for some p*** are ready to do.

brokingbull wrote:Today there was a very good premium show. Artist: Ava!

If ETV could stay like this.........

if kissing a fish head floats your boat...

Today there was a very good premium show. Artist: Ava!

If ETV could stay like this.........

Mr_Niceguy wrote:I had the privilege to watch the premium show from Mashiara yesterday for 4 hours. It was a fantastic show on many levels. For this I had to pay only 5 credits which is an outrage in my opinion. If the amount were doubled it would still be ridiculously low... how can you put a price on that really? Then I was thinking what can we do to give the models anything close to what they deserve. So I would like to call upon everybody here to show some dignity and respect in your posts, it is the least we can do and the least the girls deserve. What kind of man are you really if you can't even show a woman respect? Now this thread is the worst place in this forum with every bit of respect and decency gone out the window. Make it better. Thank you!

Relax, dude.
There are other ways to send credits to the girl of your choice if you want to do that.
Personally I don't like the idea of 4-hour Premiums at all. Not good for the girls and I don't think many customers are buying the whole 4 hours.
4 hours, one girl, is imo just too much. Mashi is almost a "professional", so she can fill 4 hours with ideas and eroticism, I think not many of the
other models are able to do that.

So I watched only the second hour of Mashi's show and it was good as always. She knows exactly what she's doing and how far she wants to go.
Mashi in the office is always a highlight. Anyone remember her office shows in the early days of ELS ? Epic stuff...
A postive aspect was the lack of "directing". That's what I always said: Let the girls do what they want, don't try to produce "art".
Negative, as always, the self-censorship via camera work. Almost always when it gets interesting the cameras are panning or being switched.
Maybe the models want it that way, maybe not....I just know I don't like that.

Respect has gone on this board, but imo only towards the COMPANY ETV, the morons who think they are world class producers of art.
But not towards the models.............well, maybe you're partly right and there is a lack of respect towards less popular models like...you know who.

Also, there are sometimes negative reactions to so called "soft models". If a model sits there for hours, fully clothed,
doing nothing, on an erotic web show, she's gonna get a negative comment from time to time. I think this is understandable.

I had the privilege to watch the premium show from Mashiara yesterday for 4 hours. It was a fantastic show on many levels. For this I had to pay only 5 credits which is an outrage in my opinion. If the amount were doubled it would still be ridiculously low... how can you put a price on that really? Then I was thinking what can we do to give the models anything close to what they deserve. So I would like to call upon everybody here to show some dignity and respect in your posts, it is the least we can do and the least the girls deserve. What kind of man are you really if you can't even show a woman respect? Now this thread is the worst place in this forum with every bit of respect and decency gone out the window. Make it better. Thank you!

Mashi is in The Office!

Dreamlander

Sunday's show by Kristina and Maschiara acting like puppets was certainly the most original way of showing two pretty naked girls I have seen in my entire life. They looked a bit robot-like and not as natural as usual but that was the idea of the show. Camera and video quality were very good. Had they played out exactly the same moves as what Angelina did in the background with her Barbie puppets, the show would have to be rated at least X. The real girls remained modestly explicit, Eurotic style. Tastes may differ, but I liked this one.