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i am very glad reading a comment from a mod like that,deffending the right of posting our different opinions, thank you Tarl
 I celebrate it because i am becoming very tired of being accused of the same things from same persons in such personal way. I know there are at least 2, but sometimes i feel like they are the same person  The point is not how i know the things, the point is if that things are true or not. And i didn´t lie. Facts are facts. A fact is what they published on their site and a fact is the pole show was not the announced shower shosw, regardless if i spend my money on it or not. I was not complaining about shows i didn´t buy as you said, i was complaining about a bad selling habit. The point here is just a comment about a selling strategy based in a lie when they say you will see a shower show and they offer a pole show. That is not a decent selling offer, that is not honest, and it doesn´t make ETV reliable, and It has nothing to do with what i personally do with my credits, or how i know they did it. By the way: it seems some people is very interested in knowing how i know the things that i know. I will tell you something, Slow. I have not (still) watched the film "Maleficent", but i know is based on Sleeping Beauty, and i know the main actress is Angelina Jolie. I can know it without watching it, it´s fantastic, do you see? the knowledge has many ways, my friend! now i know that if i will buy a ticket, i am sure i will find Angelina Jolie playing Maleficent, not playing Lara Croft. I will like the film more or less if i buy my ticket, but at least they are not lying me with false information. ETV pretends their customers pay for whatever, and they look like everyday more like our politicians: they promise to do this, and after that they do whatever else. To satisfy possible curiosity: Tarl_Cabot wrote:maybe only you and a second person was watching the shows and the second person is in communication with Wilsonsand but doesn't want to be the one who publishs this thus ...Wrong. Tarl_Cabot wrote:maybe Wilsonsand is the speaker of a certain groupWrong, i talk just by myself, but i would have no problem admitting it if it would be so. Tarl_Cabot wrote:maybe Wilsonsand bought the show but doesn't confirm this and prefers to tickle you with this Wrong again.Tarl_Cabot wrote:for sure that's all is pointless as everyone is allowed to post his opinion and nobody must prove his payment of credits nor must show his phone bill.Absolutely right!
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Eurotic could show a blank screen all day and some posters would still pretend to defend their beloved channel in the forum. Sad.
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They really need to fix these technical problems even the hotbird channel is just running graphics and riya look like she was doing a show at the pole. Hmm they really have gone all out today both tv channels now !
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Watched dps Sandra she had only tights on in the studio at the strip pole but was like my granny.
they have the zoom trick back and you can see the other girls Danna and Riya enough said its going to be another cheap week again. |
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Slowfox wrote:However, complaining that a product is different of the offer without having purchased the product is senseless. as it's about buying and the laws for a salesman senseless or not isn't the question. the only question is allowed or not. etv is acting in an absolutely not professional way and not pressional is the only thing they are realiable on. and this leads to the next point: Slowfox wrote:... and is this really earth moving again ? at a single time of course not but as it's obviously an important part of etv economical politics this false acting is earth moving and will be earth moving until etv changes its acting. Slowfox wrote:And from a plain logical point of view. How can somebody who did not buy the shows know, that the setting has changed, and finds reason to complain ? maybe only you and a second person was watching the shows and the second person is in communication with Wilsonsand but doesn't want to be the one who publishs this thus ... maybe Wilsonsand is the speaker of a certain group maybe Wilsonsand bought the show but doesn't confirm this and prefers to tickle you with this maybe maybe maybe .... but for sure that's all is pointless as everyone is allowed to post his opinion and nobody must prove his payment of credits nor must show his phone bill. the point is: etv is/ was acting once again in a wrong and not allowed way. that's it. |
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Dreamlander wrote:alex wrote:nuttyboy wrote:I wouldn't attempt to watch a premium show at the moment as they are apparently having technical difficulties again Yeah I guess time to save up and get calling the girls instead and maybe watch a couple of night shows a week hopefully if they go this way it will only be for the summer when most of the competent management/ideas people come back from holiday it may well lose them customers with this format and isn't fair on the girls either why should put on shows that are on view to everyone and making them feel uncomfortable but i guess etv doesn't care as long as they get the money I know for the girls it is a job a way to earn money but they should be able to feel comfortable in their work and having fun at work is a bonus |
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alex wrote:nuttyboy wrote:I wouldn't attempt to watch a premium show at the moment as they are apparently having technical difficulties again Ah, good news, well not for you, for me!  My recording did the same thing. As for the pole in the studio. I think this will signal the end, or 'softening' of the very nice 'tease' shows we have been getting from the soft girls like Cassie and Katelin. There's a reason why some girls are 'web-only' and why some soft girls do really sexy shows in the Fitting Room. It's more 'private'. Less staff to watch behind the scenes, less girls with their clothes on 'watching' you. Less distractions or reminders of the outside world to interrupt any sensuality the girl is trying to impart into the show. I know for a fact that Alice will not be at all happy doing the Premium shows in front of everybody, along with a couple others at least. And, to be honest, as a viewer, I don't want the Premiums to become a little 'appendix' to the TV show. All of the intimacy disappears, the fantasy appears in front of reality and that's just not sensual or erotic for me and probably isn't for the girls, either. There needs to be a curtain or divider, or something that means it's just 'you' and the girl, no other 'guests', onlookers or mundane normality disturbing the feel or mood of the show. Otherwise, it just becomes mechanical, emotionless and devoid of any sense that you are sharing something with the girl, a moment in time, as it were. Going through the motions kills enjoyment of most things, erotic performances included.  Dreamlander-I did consider that maybe it was done for logistical or technical reasons but, already, one of the shows this morning had technical problems, so it can't be that!
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nuttyboy wrote:I wouldn't attempt to watch a premium show at the moment as they are apparently having technical difficulties again yesterday as I bought the daytime premium show with alice the stream was broken after 14 minutes... 
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Tarl_Cabot wrote:if I understand etv made advertisement for a product and sold this product to the customers and when the customer has bought it he has realised that it's the wrong product. If you paid for something that has been offered / advertized and the final product is different it is absolutely correct to complain and to ask for re-imbursement, unless the different product was to your satisfaction. However, complaining that a product is different of the offer without having purchased the product is senseless. And i saw only such complaints and no further comments of those who actually purchased the shows in question. ... and is this really earth moving again ? And from a plain logical point of view. How can somebody who did not buy the shows know, that the setting has changed, and finds reason to complain ? |
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if I understand etv made advertisement for a product and sold this product to the customers and when the customer has bought it he has realised that it's the wrong product.
afaik this is against the laws and the customers can ask for the wanted product and in the end for the money back and the salesman etv must offer the correct show or pay the money back. not a professional acting of a professional salesman and an acting that should not even happen to a beginner in a business. at etv I'd suspect blaming the customers for this mistake. |
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I don't think even jade can make this week of shows exciting they are apparently going to be in the studio with poledancing so what are we going to get for 1 credit pole dancing and a view of the tv studio just like when they started this project
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I wouldn't attempt to watch a premium show at the moment as they are apparently having technical difficulties again
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Pole dancing crap knew I should have bought at least one show today just hope that isn't all that is offered next week in premium shows
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1. i am not angry, i told you i don´t care about that shows. I am only talking about it.
2.t i didn´t buy the shows, but it doesn´t change the fact that the information about the shows was wrong, and that is not a good thing, at least for me. Of course its not the more important thing of life, but it´s the issue of this thread. If you want, we can talk about the meaning of life, or about our family and our own health, but i fear this is out of topic here.3. i have not a lot of money, just the opposite, i like when i find right information from sellers, it makes the business reliable, don´t you think? Maybe you don´t care, i do, call me angry man for that I didn´t buy the shows, but maybe some people did it expecting shower shows as announced. Maybe they are happy anyway with the pole shows instead,but that doesn´t change the fact they didn´t what they said they were going to offer, and in my opinion that is not a good thing, just it.You don´t know how easy i take it long life Slow! |
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Wilsonsand wrote:the issue is being professional, honest and reliable giving right information about the shows, and not telling lies in their own marketing for today when they say: Well, once there is nothing more important in life .... But I appreciate that it is still worth one of the usual comments. Anyway, why so angry about a show or shows you never watch or watched? If I'd offer you strawberry ice cream you do not buy anyway, you would still complain, because I wanted to give you chocolate ice cream instead? In the end your hands are empty either way and you saved your money on a greedy thief. In your view I would be a damn lier also, because I sold you something you did not want to buy upfront and effectively did not buy. If I were you, I would take it a little easier sometimes. |
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