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nmahauk wrote:

stegiato wrote:The first 90 mins were a joke i hope show will now start

A bad joke I vil say.

This is not a joke, just a little sophisticated fraud

I have sent in an SOS (Save Our Show) and asked nicely for a hotter and bolder show for the last two hours to reduce complaints and sent in bolder show requests which I don't normally have to ask so directly for. Fingers crossed.

stegiato wrote:The first 90 mins were a joke i hope show will now start

A bad joke I vil say.

stegiato wrote:The first 90 mins were a joke i hope show will now start

A joke!!!What humor at etv!The show is flat,full empty,nothing,nothing,nothing

The first 90 mins were a joke i hope show will now start

kennyboy2012 wrote:please be fair to the girls and the rest of the viewers

Yes Kenny, it's so simple, but unfortunately many people will never understand this and think only by themself.

Have a nice weekend.

I think the opposite, i never did, but i agree with those sending bad reviews and complaints, it's the only way for a viewer to express his opinion, if u go to Opera and it sucks people whistles but actors have to go on is their job, if you go to stadium and your team sucks people whistles but players go on is their job, and so is for the girls, usually is not their fault, but writing bad reviews they also know that their efforts are ruined from camera work and direction, and managment knows that viewers don't want what they're giving (they still know it but they don't care at all) ,people at home can't always say "yes "or "will be better next time", can also say" tonight was really bad " .

imaginator55 wrote:

TazDevil wrote:

15102004 wrote:i can't understand the "obsession" of some users to want strongly know the name of the senders, nobody is anonymous!!
To send messages you have to login and subscribe the payment for a premium or any other stuff so ETV perfectly know who is the senders and if a girl want also know, she just have to ask to someone.
It should be ETV to judge and filtered the messages (if needed) and this is enough.
There is no need to show the name for other viewers pleasure, and it is also a respect of privacy.
Don't worry, ETV and the girls are accustomed to very strange people and unfortunately to a vulgar people too, they also speak every day with any kind of guys, so can't be a message to change the things.

If ETV did apply a filter and judgement to the messages displayed during the WFF show then this would never have been an issue. But they haven't applied any filter or judgement and it has impacted the mood of the girls and destroyed previous shows. All that has been said before is that those with strong views will be happy to put their name to the comments, Trolls will not. It has also been said that most of the negative comments are aimed at ETV and not the girls, but it is the girls who seem to have to respond, which I find unfair on the girls who should be allowed to look amazing and be erotic. If the show wasn't impacted by the Trolls I wouldn't care, but they have impacted too often now.

I think it makes a huge difference for the girls, to know whether the many negative messages they sometimes see come from a large number of viewers, or only a few viewers each send lots of anonymous negative messages.

I agree with the above points. The girls do seem to take the comments to heart and its usually not aimed at them, but they have to respond and deal with the crap, and it certainly does affect the show, and this isn't fair to the girls or the viewers.
If a screen name or some way to tag each comment to the person making it was used, then as stated, the girls could see that maybe all the negative posts were from one or two, and they could address those few, Also, ETV could block them, something that should happen more often, in my opinion.
Also, if the anonymity was removed in some way, then maybe some posts may be a bit more polite and less offensive.
I can understand concerns about a persons account name being used, and I agree this may not be a good idea, but as Tazman has suggested, users could create their screen name in their profile, and that could be used. Just to add some accountability visibly.
Yes, maybe the girls hear all sorts of things said on the phones, but to be sitting there with everyone able to see the criticism thrown at them, is a different matter and can be really cruel and unjustifiable sometimes.
One member of this forum has already been identified with some of the negative and (in my mind) offensive messages, and to be fair, the messages were intended more aimed at the team than the girls, but the outcome is still the same. If you through mud at someone, there's no point saying its meant for someone else, its already made a mess on the person first hit by it.
I'm hopeful that person will take this on board, he's usually fair with his comments

I just hope tonight is not full of negativity, and that the stream can cope. I've asked ETV to allow logging in prior to the show, and this may reduce the pressure at the start of the show possibly.

If anyone is watching and is not happy, please don't just message the girls complaining, its not necessarily their fault, message from your ETV accounts to the team, or use the FTA channel and send a message to the team there, please be fair to the girls and the rest of the viewers

The fact is that nobody is anonymous at etv.
People are anonymous only for you, like every other viewers, and i find this absolutely right in respect of privacy.

ETV have every way they like to stop this issue, respecting privacy of all "normal" senders too, but maybe (and this is my opinion only) they use this pretence to move the fault of a bad-show on others.

imaginator55 wrote:I think it makes a huge difference for the girls, to know whether the many negative messages they sometimes see come from a large number of viewers, or only a few viewers each send lots of anonymous negative messages.

They perfectly know all the alter egos and who sends which messages.

imaginator55 wrote:I think it makes a huge difference for the girls, to know whether the many negative messages they sometimes see come from a large number of viewers, or only a few viewers each send lots of anonymous negative messages.

Only if they really care about such messages.

15102004 wrote:And what is the difference if also YOU know the name of the senders??
Something will improve for that?

It is just the Psychology of the perceived anonymity for some (not all) people. It is known as the “online disinhibition effect.” The theory is that the moment you shed your identity the usual constraints on your behaviour go, too. As it happens so much has been said on the matter, rather than ETV doing something about it quickly, that if you introduced a solution now, many people would be more likely to send in negative comments as an act of defiance! So little will actual improve!

TazDevil wrote:

15102004 wrote:i can't understand the "obsession" of some users to want strongly know the name of the senders, nobody is anonymous!!
To send messages you have to login and subscribe the payment for a premium or any other stuff so ETV perfectly know who is the senders and if a girl want also know, she just have to ask to someone.
It should be ETV to judge and filtered the messages (if needed) and this is enough.
There is no need to show the name for other viewers pleasure, and it is also a respect of privacy.
Don't worry, ETV and the girls are accustomed to very strange people and unfortunately to a vulgar people too, they also speak every day with any kind of guys, so can't be a message to change the things.

If ETV did apply a filter and judgement to the messages displayed during the WFF show then this would never have been an issue. But they haven't applied any filter or judgement and it has impacted the mood of the girls and destroyed previous shows. All that has been said before is that those with strong views will be happy to put their name to the comments, Trolls will not. It has also been said that most of the negative comments are aimed at ETV and not the girls, but it is the girls who seem to have to respond, which I find unfair on the girls who should be allowed to look amazing and be erotic. If the show wasn't impacted by the Trolls I wouldn't care, but they have impacted too often now.

I think it makes a huge difference for the girls, to know whether the many negative messages they sometimes see come from a large number of viewers, or only a few viewers each send lots of anonymous negative messages.

And what is the difference if also YOU know the name of the senders??
Something will improve for that?

Prediction For Friday Wish For Free Show:

I fear the worst tonight, the signs are not looking good. We have one soft model in a bold show, one model borrowed from the TV show disrupting those viewers, cheaper exclusive show so Trolls can get in for less than a beer and if too many people buy the Black Friday discounted online show, the stream will fall over and the picture quality will be poor.