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Chris26 wrote:

Mr_Niceguy wrote:

Chris26 wrote:So, since implying things from other people's posts is the main sport here, I can safely assume that you're both saying: "We need an idiot who's idiot enough to send his wish without it being fulfilled the way he wants".

no that is not what I am saying nor implying. I said you have better chance getting what you want when you call and I am saying that many people (including you) are complaining you always get the same show and now you say you will only send a request if it has already been done, thus keeping the circle going. That is what I am saying sorry for being unclear...

And, in your opinion, this is fair?
If for you it is, then there's no point in continuing this discussion (or any discussion, really ). If you think that this is fair, you are saying that it is fair that people sending VIP SMS for wishes (which, as ETV keeps repeating, will be all fulfilled and whatnot, although they tend to forget to mention that they're not legally forced to...) waste their money and that ETV is not in the wrong.
Unless you mean that with calls it is easier to "direct" the models to do the show that you want, but 1) many models claim they don't like to be directed, 2) 160 characters are well enough to summarize a wish with clear directions and instructions.
Too many times it happens that models refuse to do wishes by SMS saying "i do wishes only for those who call me" and then when you call and ask the same wish, they magically tell you that they can't do it/don't feel like doing it. That is a scam.
I stand by my idea that I am not going to send a message requesting a show until I am 100% certain that my request will be done the way I want, or in the other case 100% sure that I will get a refund should the request not be done in the desired way. And this mistrust certainly didn't stem from me first, but it's up to ETV to improve the situation.

Chris, as far as I can understand, ETV' strategists have set new guidelines, and ETV has a new "target".
We (you, me and many other old viewers) judge the quality of a channel by considering the content showed on the screen and the possibility to see the wishes fulfilled on the screen.
On the contrary, the "new ETV" is most of all a service for people who want "to hear". Nudity is a sort of background.

Probably the strategists think that watching Lilian completely naked while "model x", fully dressed and sitting on a chair, says to you on the phone: "f*ck my mouth"
has the same result than what we can see in the "nostalgia" or in the "hot shows" video sections.
Nowadays calls have much more power than vipsmss for this simple reason.
If your wishes are something to hear, then ETV is ok (ITV - imagination TV)
If your wishes are something to see ... this is another story.

Watcher wrote:@Chris26
Sadly, it seems that the real world does not match up to your expectations.
I suppose you complain vehemently to your government when they do not spend your taxes as you have dictated to them but, then again, it would be more likely to see the complaints here.
You clearly have no interest in what ETV say you will get for your money, only your expectations matter.
Since you know that ETV will not meet these expectations why do you persist?

Rest assured that on a local level (I'm actually quite unconcerned by national events) I'm more than able to cater to my interests and to stand my ground.

They don't meet them in this moment, which does not rule out that in the future things might change and I might be willing to spend again if I am still interested; I think I'm actually doing them a favour, stating what I think is wrong, because I highly doubt that fixing the things I'm mentioning will drive customers away. I was a customer and now I am a potential one, I think I'm kind of entitled to say my 2 cents and to forward my expectations, or is ETV a closed cult that only does shady dealings on a "you-get-what-you-get" basis?
If you think that I'm persisting uselessly, feel free to abandon the discussion, I'm definitely not going to stop anyway.

@Chris26
Sadly, it seems that the real world does not match up to your expectations.
I suppose you complain vehemently to your government when they do not spend your taxes as you have dictated to them but, then again, it would be more likely to see the complaints here.
You clearly have no interest in what ETV say you will get for your money, only your expectations matter.
Since you know that ETV will not meet these expectations why do you persist?

Mr_Niceguy wrote:

Chris26 wrote:So, since implying things from other people's posts is the main sport here, I can safely assume that you're both saying: "We need an idiot who's idiot enough to send his wish without it being fulfilled the way he wants".

no that is not what I am saying nor implying. I said you have better chance getting what you want when you call and I am saying that many people (including you) are complaining you always get the same show and now you say you will only send a request if it has already been done, thus keeping the circle going. That is what I am saying sorry for being unclear...

And, in your opinion, this is fair?
If for you it is, then there's no point in continuing this discussion (or any discussion, really ). If you think that this is fair, you are saying that it is fair that people sending VIP SMS for wishes (which, as ETV keeps repeating, will be all fulfilled and whatnot, although they tend to forget to mention that they're not legally forced to...) waste their money and that ETV is not in the wrong.
Unless you mean that with calls it is easier to "direct" the models to do the show that you want, but 1) many models claim they don't like to be directed, 2) 160 characters are well enough to summarize a wish with clear directions and instructions.
Too many times it happens that models refuse to do wishes by SMS saying "i do wishes only for those who call me" and then when you call and ask the same wish, they magically tell you that they can't do it/don't feel like doing it. That is a scam.
I stand by my idea that I am not going to send a message requesting a show until I am 100% certain that my request will be done the way I want, or in the other case 100% sure that I will get a refund should the request not be done in the desired way. And this mistrust certainly didn't stem from me first, but it's up to ETV to improve the situation.

Chris26 wrote:So, since implying things from other people's posts is the main sport here, I can safely assume that you're both saying: "We need an idiot who's idiot enough to send his wish without it being fulfilled the way he wants".

no that is not what I am saying nor implying. I said you have better chance getting what you want when you call and I am saying that many people (including you) are complaining you always get the same show and now you say you will only send a request if it has already been done, thus keeping the circle going. That is what I am saying sorry for being unclear...

So, since implying things from other people's posts is the main sport here, I can safely assume that you're both saying: "We need an idiot who's idiot enough to send his wish without it being fulfilled the way he wants".

If you want better chances of getting a request fulfilled in the way you want you can better call then send a message. If you will wait with your wish untill it is already fulfilled then we are in the same circel we are in, the same requests over and over so please don't do that

Chris26 wrote:< snip >
Maybe you could refund the viewers who are not satisfied with their requests, I'm sure that at that point they would be more than willing to try and write.

Since I have not received anything from the unsatisfied viewers, I am hardly in a position to refund them.
As to the cause of their 'unsatisfaction', perhaps they should check exactly what they are buying.
I'm sure that, with no contribution from me, they stand a good chance of being successful with their attempts ...

Watcher wrote:

uk334 wrote:

Chris26 wrote:True, but you also have to consider the viewer's wish. Much like balloons and everything else, if this is what the viewer has asked for, it's what needs to be shown.
For the very same reason, I don't make VIP requests (even those rare times in which there are models I appreciate) because I know that they're not going to be fulfilled the way I want. The day I see a request, more or less similar to those I have in mind, being fulfilled the way I would like to see it, I'd perhaps consider making one myself.

You have probably spoken for a lot of older customers mate.

There's probably a big group of you, all waiting ... Who's going to be brave .

Maybe you could refund the viewers who are not satisfied with their requests, I'm sure that at that point they would be more than willing to try and write.

i'm just arrived at home
.....and i'm watching

uk334 wrote:

Chris26 wrote:True, but you also have to consider the viewer's wish. Much like balloons and everything else, if this is what the viewer has asked for, it's what needs to be shown.
For the very same reason, I don't make VIP requests (even those rare times in which there are models I appreciate) because I know that they're not going to be fulfilled the way I want. The day I see a request, more or less similar to those I have in mind, being fulfilled the way I would like to see it, I'd perhaps consider making one myself.

You have probably spoken for a lot of older customers mate.

There's probably a big group of you, all waiting ... Who's going to be brave .

Tarl_Cabot wrote:I think the main problem or not of the showers is the way these showers are shown by the director.
if the directors switch only once or twice in 2 mins for a few seconds to the shower also the hottest shower with the best models will look bad.
maybe I'm wrong but it seems to me that in the last weeks most or all shower scenes are shown in this bad style while in the past shower scenes were mostly shown without any or with only a few switches to the main studio.
and yes, the predictable script with models x, y & z in the last hour of the night show in the shower isn't really creative nor interesting. often is a look at the schedule enough to know which shower vids will be posted the next day.

I have always blamed the directors, they are the ones who should have the vision and the sexual prowess to make or break a show
Having said that, they can also make or break a model, especially one in particular.

Chris26 wrote:True, but you also have to consider the viewer's wish. Much like balloons and everything else, if this is what the viewer has asked for, it's what needs to be shown.
For the very same reason, I don't make VIP requests (even those rare times in which there are models I appreciate) because I know that they're not going to be fulfilled the way I want. The day I see a request, more or less similar to those I have in mind, being fulfilled the way I would like to see it, I'd perhaps consider making one myself.

You have probably spoken for a lot of older customers mate.

True, but you also have to consider the viewer's wish. Much like balloons and everything else, if this is what the viewer has asked for, it's what needs to be shown.
For the very same reason, I don't make VIP requests (even those rare times in which there are models I appreciate) because I know that they're not going to be fulfilled the way I want. The day I see a request, more or less similar to those I have in mind, being fulfilled the way I would like to see it, I'd perhaps consider making one myself.

This is why there is a director present. He/she should fullfill the request in such a way it adds to the qaulity of the show not destroy it. If it's impossible simply say, we need better requests cause this is boring our viewers.