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Scottishbloke wrote:kennyboy2012 wrote:Ok, two serious questions, not having a go at anyone, just straight forward questions Scottishbloke to question and answer 1, I specifically said I was asking why still post here if they hate the channel so much. , I did not say that anybody should stop posting. I was asking a question, not giving an instruction! to question and answer 2, yes, I am well aware if rampant channels, and I consider them to be dissimilar to ETV, the interaction is completely different. and it offers either topless only or explicit hardcore. ETV sits between these two levels, has a much better class, has a studio full of girls as opposed to one girl or at most two girls per channel. Its like comparing diesel and petrol cars. Both are cars but both are different to each other. as for " perhaps members might be more open to the other channels now that ETV has effectively bitten the dust" oh change the record, a small group on here have been predicting the demise of ETV for at least 6 months, and guess what, its still going! Yes, its not the same as it was, and it is constantly changing, they keep trying new ideas and concepts, and I will agree, that its offerings at the moment are less attractive than 6 months ago, but its still there. You say its effectively bitten the dust, well maybe its like been knocked down, and it getting back up again, difficult to see with the current offerings, but if its down, its certainly not dead, but again, if its all done for, why do you still post here? Yes, this is an open forum, and so anyone can post, even if they have never seen etv, but it does strike the question why? but my questions were to everyone, so I'd like to hear from other viewpoints |
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kennyboy2012 wrote:Ok, two serious questions, not having a go at anyone, just straight forward questions Your answer to this Kenny is very simple this is a forum and as such all viewpoints must be heard, if this were an ETV fanzone then you'd be well within your rights to tell people to stop complaining but because it ain't then you yourself have no grounds for complaining about the complainers. kennyboy2012 wrote:second question: can you list some of these free sites that are more interesting and free. Kenny take a look at this website - [hidden link - please register] Also take one look through my posting history, I like to post content from all the channels and that includes ETV but not in its current state, I have also gone on record as to saying that its no skin off my balls if ETV continue in this vein as I have no shortage of other channels to like and upload to this forum. In saying all that I also see myself as a critic and will pass comment on any of the above channels. Because the UK channels don't tend to get debated much on this forum then the only form of interaction I can have on this forum is within the ETV sections, perhaps members might be more open to the other channels now that ETV has effectively bitten the dust, there loss will ultimately be another channels gain. I'll say it again I have no loyalty to any of the channels whatsoever. |
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limelime wrote:I completly agree with Schottishbloke that has told with "other" words my same concept. Ok, two serious questions, not having a go at anyone, just straight forward questions  first question, and this is to anyone that's complaining about etv. If other shows and sites are more interesting, why do people stay and complain, instead of just going to these other shows and sites ? I'm not telling anyone to do that, I'm just asking the obvious question that if you think its so bad, then why are you still here? If you watch a programme series on TV and you don't think its any good, you just stop watching it. second question: can you list some of these free sites that are more interesting and free. |
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Wilsonsand wrote:this is one of the things i was meaning: I wonder if it maybe because the handheld cameras used in the studio tonight can get close enough, but the remote cameras in the exclusives are limited because they are static and so have to zoom in as it is, and to get the above level, they cant zoom in enough without loosing the quality. I would also say that, from watching the shows, they have some good cameras and some quite bad ones. The video feed from some of the cameras in the main studio can be so pixelated sometimes and yet other cameras in there are fine. It seems that since they started using remote cameras in the exclusives, they haven't been as good. the handheld cameras were better and moved around giving better angles. |
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this is one of the things i was meaning:
[hidden link - please register] a zoom so good like this taken from tonight show is not made in exclusive anymore, and i really can´t understand why. |
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as far as i can see on the "free" part of the exclusive shows (+my experience from other shows), they suffer from the same defects that lately have led the shows far away from an acceptable level for many customers.
1. Bad lighting. Poor lighting, oranged models skins, shadows and that black background that doesn´t help. (It helps to the censorship task)Just compare: [hidden link - please register] 2. Too many distant shots. Cams are too far from the action, and they offer a lot of not interesting distant shots (It also helps to the censorship task) [hidden link - please register] 3. cameras too distant so, very few and poor zoom shots (It also helps to the censorship task). Just compare: [hidden link - please register] 4. Lots of absurd shots where nothing interesting can be seen, It is aggravated by the bad placed cameras and the poor lighting [hidden link - please register] 5. Wrong angles=bad camera work. Perfect for censorship. [hidden link - please register] You can add: abuse of back and side views to hide pussies, the almost constant trying to avoid frontal shots, almost symbolic interactions, etc etc. The shows made in that studio in that conditions are for sure destined to fail. All together helps to make a soft, dark, boring and dull production wasting the beauty&talent of the models. It looks a suicidal plan. |
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I completly agree with Schottishbloke that has told with "other" words my same concept.
There are many other shows or website at the moment more interesting than ETV and also for free. Cheers |
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Well as I've always said and I'm quite upfront about it, I am loyal to no channel whatsoever, I cap and record what I happen to like at the time, my current favourites are Babestation on the telly and the unleashed webshows which both put ETV to shame. I'm not remotely interested in paying for a behind closed doors show, it doesn't appeal to me, I would however have no issues with sending an sms but not in its current state. ETV built its success on requests, it was designed first and foremost as a TV show with the webstream as an added incentive for customers who perhaps for various reasons (ie satellite issues) weren't able to see the show the conventional way as to say. If ETV continue with this sham then its no skin off my balls, I'll just go elsewhere to get my fix, I don't really give a fuck Lol
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Alert me on this new forum when ready. tnx
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Hell, can no longer go to the night show ridiculous, if not bite boycotts,
but something has changed forever !! 
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goldy wrote:Now it is clear that in this forum there are people paid by etv to speak well of their shows. Goldy you can read ? Now on ETV - The current show, which happens to be the hugely successful meaningless encounters directed by Dakota, at least that is what the Wall will tell you. the above Ruby doing her thing belongs here UK Liveshows - Babestation Unleashed, get it ? and I am quite sure that the forum members who are interested are aware of it |
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@15122004 I´m not interested in the way they are managing their company and i don´t complain.
It´s their own decision. If they want to stay alive they need enough customer paying for their services and winning enough money. I´ve closed with their way to administrate the channel and I´m not feeling as ETV customer. If the will change going in the direction I like, i will re-think my position. I hope that you (and also the Boycott-club) can accept also my point of view otherwise I will be silent reading your (repeated) opinions. |
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Now it is clear that in this forum there are people paid by etv to speak well of their shows.
This is why the NMM movement moves elsewhere, shortly I'll tell you (you all participants of the movement) the address of the new forum. In the meantime, enjoy this .... [hidden image - please register] .. after 2 seconds, in freeeee! [hidden image - please register] bye....
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limelime wrote:As a customer of ETV I´m really unhappy of the quality of the shows and I buy or I´ve bought always less then before because I was disappointed. Can you explain me why people spending money for calls and wishes in TV should have a different level of satisfaction than you? Have their money less value? Actually if you buy a subscription you pay many many less than any TV customers, so what you should deserve? Anyway, this is exactly what ETV done. |
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As a customer of ETV I´m really unhappy of the quality of the shows and I buy or I´ve bought always less then before because I was disappointed.
This doesn't mean that I´ve to boycott them. I´m not spending money and I will not be spending my money since the quality will be much better then today. For me FTA should be used to catch call sand messages of a kind of customer and as adverting for the Internet page. There should different level of erotism if you are going to see FTA or ETV Show. The problem for me is that if you see a show on ETVSHOW you will not be guaranted to see something more exciting then what you see on FTA. In effect they have destroyed the FTA shows and I think at the moment they are incoming less money from the calls or the messages. My personal position is that I will wait, if something will change or if they will do something interesting for me as customer (for example I like lesbian kisses, really ones) I will be there again otherwise they will have lost one of their customer. And ETV should learn and understand to stay on the market what the customers are interested in.... These are the rules that I apply normally doing my job, and using them I have success. |
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