Formula 1 General Chat & Discussion

The result of the Spanish GP :

Fernando Alonso takes commanding home win for Ferrari :
Fernando Alonso sent the Spanish Grand Prix crowd into ecstasy as the Ferrari driver and home hero charged to his first Barcelona victory since 2006. Kimi Raikkonen's Lotus emerged as Alonso's main rival, while Sebastian Vettel and the front-row-starting Mercedes faded in the race. Felipe Massa moved in the opposite direction, recovering from a penalised ninth on the grid to take the final podium spot. In a race full of tyre conservation, Alonso's approach from the outset was to charge. While Vettel split the Mercedes into Turn 1, Alonso accelerated around the outside of both Raikkonen and Lewis Hamilton at Turn 3 to move into third.
Rosberg clung on at the front of the field through the first pitstops. By the time they were done, Alonso was his main rival, having pitted one lap ahead of Vettel and jumped the Red Bull. Rosberg's plunge down the order began on lap 12, when Alonso passed him into Turn 1, and Vettel and Raikkonen further demoted him before the lap was complete. Once in front, Alonso began to pull away. Despite running longer, Vettel turned out to be on the same four-stop strategy as Alonso, but unable to match the Ferrari's sheer pace. Raikkonen, however, could pull off a three-stop. He lost time behind Vettel in the middle of the, then raised his pace after overtaking the Red Bull on lap 33. Lotus had a potential edge going into the closing stages, with Raikkonen a few seconds ahead of Alonso at a point when both had a single stop to go. But on his fresher tyres, Alonso stormed up behind Raikkonen at a rate of two seconds per lap, breezed past the Lotus then vanished into the distance, swiftly building a 12-second advantage. Raikkonen was left to keep half an eye on Massa, who had been rapid all afternoon and got a green light from Ferrari to try to catch the Lotus. Tyre wear stymied this and forced Massa to back off again, but third was still safe. Vettel's attempts to run longer on tyres ultimately cost him so much pace that he fell behind the earlier-pitting Massa. The world champion had to settle for fourth, followed by his team-mate Mark Webber. Mercedes' fade ended with Rosberg pulling off a three-stop in sixth and his despondent team-mate Hamilton right out of the points in a lapped 12th, having gone into freefall following his first stop. Paul di Resta's Force India chased Rosberg home. McLaren ended up eighth and ninth. Jenson Button had tumbled to 17th in the opening laps, but nursed his tyres through three stops and emerged ahead of his early-charging, but four-stopping, team-mate Sergio Perez. Daniel Ricciardo fended off Esteban Gutierrez to give Toro Rosso the final point. It was still a breakthrough day for Gutierrez, as a long first stint meant Sauber's rookie managed to lead a Formula 1 race for the first time. Last year's Barcelona winner Pastor Maldonado struggled home 14th, recovering from a pitlane speeding penalty to get there. Romain Grosjean was an early retirement with skewed right rear suspension on his Lotus.
Two pitlane incidents attracted stewards' attention. Caterham could face sanctions after Giedo van der Garde lost a wheel on his out-lap, while Nico Hulkenberg had an unsafe release penalty following a pitlane clash with Jean-Eric Vergne, prior to which both had been points contenders.

1. Fernando Alonso : Ferrari
2. Kimi Räikkönen : Lotus
3. Felipe Massa : Ferrari
4. Sebastian Vettel : Red Bull Racing
5. Mark Webber : Red Bull Racing
6. Nico Rosberg : Mercedes GP
7. Paul di Resta : Force India
8. Jenson Button : McLaren
9. Sergio Perez : McLaren
10. Daniel Ricciardo : Toro Rosso + 1 lap
11. Esteban Gutierrez : Sauber + 1 lap
12. Lewis Hamilton : Mercedes GP + 1 lap
13. Adrian Sutil : Force India + 1 lap
14. Pastor Maldonado : Williams + 1 lap
15. Nico Hulkenberg : Sauber + 1 lap
16. Valtteri Bottas : Williams + 1 lap
17. Charles Pic : Caterham + 1 lap
18. Jules Bianchi : Marussia F1 Team + 2 laps
19. Max Chilton : Marussia F1 Team + 2 laps
Did Not Finish :
20. Jean-Eric Vergne : Toro Rosso
21. Giedo van der Garde : Caterham
22. Romain Grosjean : Lotus

Fastest Lap : Esteban Gutierrez - 1:26.217
Pitstop Paul di Resta: 4
Bat.2 Teams : Button > Sutil
Grid Pos. Jean-Eric Vergne : DNF

Kind Regards
Shaky-Schumi

Hmmmmm ....i wonder when Hamilton has the lead & Rosberg is behind him and is faster than Hamilton ,will he get again a message on the board radio something like " Nico don't overtake Lewis " or " Nico mix 12 " or that Nico can finaly go for a win and don't care about what Lewis place is or is going to do I hope that Felipe can go into the first corner at the start without having a crash or is involved in a crash now with this gridpenalty ,because the Ferrari always makes good starts ! Will Raikkonen be the one again that we should keep a eye on ?

Kind Regards
Shaky - Schumi

Update :

Felipe Massa - Ferrari en Estaban Gutierrez - Williams are penalysized for holding up Mark Webber & Kimi Raikkonen . Both penalysized with 3 places

Kind Regards
Shaky-Schumi

FORMULA 1 GRAND PRIX DE MONACO 2013
[hidden link - please register]

Thu 23 May 2013
Practice 1 10:00 - 11:30
Practice 2 14:00 - 15:30
Sat 25 May 2013
Practice 3 11:00 - 12:00
Qualifying 14:00
Sun 26 May 2013
Race 14:00

Result of the Qualifying :

Nico Rosberg leads Lewis Hamilton in Mercedes front row :
Nico Rosberg and Lewis Hamilton secured an all-Mercedes front row in qualifying for the Spanish Grand Prix.
Rosberg repeated his Bahrain pole in a brilliant Q3 performance in which he delivered two laps good enough for the top spot. His initial 1m20.8s benchmark proved unbeatable, but Rosberg still improved to a 1m20.718s with his last run just to be certain. Hamilton had to settle for second, 0.254 seconds adrift.
Formula 1 championship leader Sebastian Vettel was third for Red Bull, ahead of Kimi Raikkonen's Lotus and Fernando Alonso's Ferrari. Alonso's team-mate Felipe Massa mounted a strong challenge for pole only to lose time in sector three and end up sixth. He will also have to see the stewards after the session having seemingly impeded Mark Webber's Red Bull in Q2. The Australian subsequently qualified eighth, behind Romain Grosjean's Lotus. Hamilton had earlier starred in a thrilling end to Q2, throwing in a last-gasp lap that jumped him from a worrying 13th to a comfortable first, six tenths clear of the pack.
Sergio Perez also produced an eleventh-hour surge in Q2, getting up to seventh and then qualifying ninth. His McLaren team-mate Jenson Button could not match that - six tenths slower, he will start only 14th.
Toro Rosso had looked promising in practice and both Daniel Ricciardo and Jean-Eric Vergne had a realistic shot at Q3, holding top-10 spots late on before being narrowly squeezed out. They will share row six, ahead of Adrian Sutil, who could not join team-mate Paul di Resta in the pole session. The Scot took 10th.
Going into the final seconds of Q2, both Saubers had made it into Q3. But in the subsequent flurry of improvements, Nico Hulkenberg and Esteban Gutierrez tumbled down to row eight. The Mexican could yet face sanctions for blocking Raikkonen in Q1. Last year's winner Williams's plight deepened, despite its upgrades, as neither car got beyond Q1. Twelve months on from his pole and win, Pastor Maldonado was only 18th - and accused of blocking by Button - while Valtteri Bottas was just one place ahead.
The back of the grid battle stepped up a gear with a very close tussle between Caterham and Marussia.
Giedo van der Garde finally emerged on top for Caterham, edging out Marussia's Jules Bianchi by just 0.052s.
Max Chilton and Charles Pic were a few tenths behind having also had a sniff of 'class pole'.

1.Nico Rosberg : Mercedes GP - 1:20.718
2. Lewis Hamilton : Mercedes GP - 1:20.972 + 0.254
3. Sebastian Vettel : Red Bull Racing - 1:21.054 + 0.336
4. Kimi Räikkönen : Lotus - 1:21.177 + 0.459
5. Fernando Alonso : Ferrari - 1:21.218 + 0.500
6. Felipe Massa : Ferrari - 1:21.219 + 0.501
7. Romain Grosjean : Lotus - 1:21.308 + 0.590
8. Mark Webber : Red Bull Racing - 1:21.570 + 0.852
9. Sergio Perez : McLaren - 1:22.069 + 1.351
10. Paul di Resta : Force India - 1:22.233 + 1.515
Q2
11. Daniel Ricciardo : Toro Rosso - 1:22.127 + 1.409
12. Jean-Eric Vergne Toro Rosso - 1:22.166 + 1.448
13. Adrian Sutil : Force India - 1:22.346 + 1.628
14. Jenson Button : McLaren - 1:22.355 + 1.637
15. Nico Hulkenberg : Sauber - 1:22.389 + 1.671
16. Esteban Gutierrez : Sauber -1:22.793 + 2.075
17. Valtteri Bottas : Williams - 1:23.260 + 2.542
Q1
18. Pastor Maldonado : Williams - 1:23.318 -
19. Giedo van der Garde : Caterham - 1:24.661 + 3.943
20. Jules Bianchi : Marussia F1 Team - 1:24.713 + 3.995
21. Max Chilton : Marussia F1 Team - 1:24.996 + 4.278
22. Charles Pic : Caterham - 1:25.070 + 4.352

Kind Regards
Shaky-Schumi

brudgon wrote:11/05/1965
stefano domenicali ferrari team manager
[hidden image - please register]

that picture is from the 1965 ?

FORMULA 1 GRAN PREMIO DE ESPAÑA 2013
free practice3
1 4 Felipe Massa Ferrari 1:21.901 13
2 7 Kimi Räikkönen Lotus-Renault 1:21.907 0.006 14
3 2 Mark Webber Red Bull Racing-Renault 1:22.044 0.143 17
4 8 Romain Grosjean Lotus-Renault 1:22.069 0.168 13
5 1 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull Racing-Renault 1:22.229 0.328 17
6 3 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1:22.254 0.353 15
7 14 Paul di Resta Force India-Mercedes 1:22.574 0.673 11
8 15 Adrian Sutil Force India-Mercedes 1:22.729 0.828 17
9 10 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 1:22.740 0.839 24
10 18 Jean-Eric Vergne STR-Ferrari 1:22.759 0.858 15
11 9 Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1:22.839 0.938 26
12 5 Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1:23.151 1.250 13
13 12 Esteban Gutierrez Sauber-Ferrari 1:23.371 1.470 21
14 6 Sergio Perez McLaren-Mercedes 1:23.373 1.472 13
15 16 Pastor Maldonado Williams-Renault 1:23.385 1.484 17
16 11 Nico Hulkenberg Sauber-Ferrari 1:23.388 1.487 18
17 17 Valtteri Bottas Williams-Renault 1:23.660 1.759 16
18 19 Daniel Ricciardo STR-Ferrari 1:23.767 1.866 17
19 20 Charles Pic Caterham-Renault 1:24.775 2.874 18
20 22 Jules Bianchi Marussia-Cosworth 1:24.793 2.892 16
21 23 Max Chilton Marussia-Cosworth 1:25.135 3.234 17
22 21 Giedo van der Garde Caterham-Renault 1:25.250 3.349 18

11/05/1965 stefano domenicali ferrari team manager
[hidden image - please register]

Result 2nd practice session :

Vettel edges out Alonso in second Friday practice
Sebastian Vettel narrowly edged out home favourite Fernando Alonso to set the fastest time in second free practice for the Spanish Grand Prix. Just 0.083 seconds covered the top three at Barcelona, as Alonso's Ferrari split the Red Bulls of Vettel and Mark Webber. After an early all-Mercedes battle for the top spot, it was Alonso and the Red Bulls that dominated the lead order through the low-fuel runs.
Webber kicked off the dice with a 1m23.112s after 22 minutes, but was deposed by Alonso on a 1m23.030s five minutes later. When they switched to the softer medium tyres shortly afterwards, Webber reclaimed first place by 0.2s over Alonso, before Vettel jumped ahead of them both. Alonso's retaliation managed to get him back in front of Webber, but Vettel remained just out of reach. Kimi Raikkonen's Lotus and Felipe Massa's Ferrari completed the top five. Lewis Hamilton spun his Mercedes at Turn 11 during the early runs, swiftly rejoining without problems and ultimately taking sixth ahead of team-mate Nico Rosberg.
Tyre wear was again high and there was a scare at Force India when Paul di Resta's left rear delaminated on the main straight, forcing the Scot to park on the grass. He was still 10th quickest, two places behind team-mate Adrian Sutil. Jean-Eric Vergne split them, in a strong performance for Toro Rosso, which also had Daniel Ricciardo in 11th. McLaren was only 12th and 13th with Jenson Button and Sergio Perez as it began to evaluate its major upgrade package, including a new front wing.

1. Sebastian Vettel : Red Bull Racing 1:22.808
2. Fernando Alonso : Ferrari - 1:22.825 + 0.017
3. Mark Webber : Red Bull Racing - 1:22.891 + 0.083
4. Kimi Räikkönen : Lotus - 1:23.030 + 0.222
5. Felipe Massa : Ferrari - 1:23.110 + 0.302
6. Lewis Hamilton : Mercedes GP - 1:23.140 + 0.332
7. Nico Rosberg : Mercedes GP - 1:23.398 + 0.590
8. Adrian Sutil : Force India - 1:23.840 + 1.032
9. Jean-Eric Vergne : Toro Rosso - 1:24.058 + 1.250
10. Paul di Resta : Force India - 1:24.104 + 1.296
11. Daniel Ricciardo : Toro Rosso - 1:24.175 + 1.367
12. Jenson Button : McLaren - 1:24.306 + 1.498
13. Sergio Perez : McLaren - 1:24.854 + 2.046
14. Valtteri Bottas : Williams - 1:24.888 + 2.080
15. Nico Hulkenberg : Sauber - 1:25.167 + 2.359
16. Pastor Maldonado : Williams - 1:25.321 + 2.513
17. Esteban Gutierrez : Sauber - 1:25.441 + 2.633
18. Romain Grosjean : Lotus - 1:25.851 + 3.043
19. Giedo van der Garde : Caterham - 1:25.963 + 3.155
20. Jules Bianchi : Marussia F1 Team - 1:26.078 + 3.270
21. Charles Pic : Caterham - 1:26.930 + 4.122
22. Max Chilton : Marussia F1 Team - 1:26.970 + 4.162

Kind Regards
Shaky-Schumi

Result of the 1st practice session :

Fernando Alonso leads damp first practice :
Fernando Alonso grabbed the fastest time in a Ferrari one-two as wet weather frustrated the Formula 1 field's attempts to get an early understanding of the Spanish Grand Prix upgrade packages in opening practice at Barcelona. It was only coming into the final quarter of an hour that slicks were viable, and even then there were sufficient slippery patches to limit the relevance of the laps that drivers managed.
But with so many developments to try, teams were less reticent about coming out early than is often the case in wet sessions. The Spanish crowd therefore had a decent amount of track activity to enjoy all morning, and would also have appreciated seeing home hero Alonso on time of the times for much of the session.
Alonso spent a while as the fastest man during the wet running, though he tumbled down the order as conditions improved. Going into the closing seconds, his Ferrari team-mate Felipe Massa was the latest to burst to the top of a constantly fluctuating timing screen as everyone got up to speed on slicks.
But Alonso finished the morning with a flourish, setting a 1m25.252s lap to beat his team-mate by 0.203 seconds. Toro Rosso's Jean-Eric Vergne had starred by being the first man to get slicks to work, and he remained consistently up front for the rest of the session, ending up third.
Romain Grosjean had an early spin into the hairpin at the end of the back straight, before finishing the session fourth for Lotus. Adrian Sutil's Force India, Lewis Hamilton's McLaren and Valtteri Bottas's Williams were next up in an inevitably shuffled order, with Kimi Raikkonen, Nico Rosberg and Paul di Resta completing the top 10.
Jenson Button was the only driver not to attempt a flying lap, though he did six exploratory tours in the updated McLaren. Red Bull also hung back when the track dried, with Sebastian Vettel and Mark Webber at the foot of the top 20.

1. Fernando Alonso : Ferrari - 1:25.252
2. Felipe Massa : Ferrari - 1:25.455 + 0.203
3. Jean-Eric Vergne : Toro Rosso - 1:25.667 + 0.415
4. Romain Grosjean : Lotus - 1:26.042 + 0.790
5. Adrian Sutil :Force India - 1:26.212 + 0.960
6. Lewis Hamilton : Mercedes GP - 1:26.374 + 1.122
7. Valtteri Bottas : Williams - 1:26.456 + 1.204
8. Kimi Räikkönen : Lotus - 1:26.614 + 1.362
9. Nico Rosberg : Mercedes GP - 1:26.621 + 1.369
10. Paul di Resta : Force India - 1:26.755 + 1.503
11. Daniel Ricciardo : Toro Rosso - 1:26.940 + 1.688
12. Nico Hulkenberg : Sauber - 1:27.061 + 1.809
13. Sergio Perez : McLaren - 1:27.135 + 1.883
14. Esteban Gutierrez : Sauber - 1:27.250 + 1.998
15. Pastor Maldonado : Williams - 1:27.576 + 2.324
16. Heikki Kovalainen : Caterham - 1:28.373 + 3.121
17. Giedo van der Garde : Caterham - 1:28.600 + 3.348
18. Jules Bianchi : Marussia F1 Team - 1:28.887 + 3.635
19. Sebastian Vettel : Red Bull Racing - 1:29.457 + 4.205
20. Mark Webber : Red Bull Racing - 1:29.473 + 4.221
21. Rodolfo Gonzalez : Marussia F1 Team - 1:30.314 + 5.062
22. Jenson Button : McLaren - no time set

Kind Regards
Shaky-Schumi

A little reminder :

brudgon wrote:Fri 10 May 2013
Practice 1 10:00 - 11:30
Practice 2 14:00 - 15:30

Sat 11 May 2013
Practice 3 11:00 - 12:00
Qualifying 14:00

Sun 12 May 2013
Race 14:00

Kind Regards
Shaky-Schumi

F1 – this week end - Barcelona GP - some statistics:

Tomorrow: practice 1 and 2
Saturday 11 may : practice 3 and qualifying
Sunday 12 may: the race at 14.00

the winners (last 5 editions)
2008 Raikkonen – Ferrari
2009 Button – Brown Mercedes
2010 Webber – Red Bull Renault (2° place Alonso and 3° place Vettel)
2011 Vettel – Red Bull Renault (2° place Hamilton and 3° place Button)
2012 Maldonado – Williams Renault (2° place Alonso and 3° place Raikkonen)
- In previous years also one victory for Alonso and Massa.

Pole position: (last 3 editions)
2010 Webber – Red Bull Renault – pole time 1m 19.995
2011 Webber – Red Bull Renault – pole time 1m 20.981
2012 Maldonado – Mercedes – pole time 1m 22.285* (the best lap time was 1.21.707 (Hamilton) but was canceled for not having sufficient fuel onboard and so Lewis lost his pole position)
- Also 2 pole position for Raikkonen – quite strange Vettel and Hamilton: never in pole at Barcelona

Best flying laps at Barcelona, during the preseason tests only two months ago:
1 Nico Rosberg – Mercedes time: 1m20.130s (soft tyre) *
2. Fernando Alonso – Ferrari time: 1m20.494s (soft tyre) *
3. Lewis Hamilton – Mercedes time: 1m20.558s (soft tyre) *
* important: during this week end, soft tires will not be used

When is the next race, I wanna be sure not to miss it

Barcelona GP – Circuit de Catalunya - Montmelò
the Grand Prix of Spain has a good tradition in the history of F1. The first edition was held in 1951, but only from the end of the sixties becomes a regular event in the calendar. In the past various circuits (Jarama, Jerez and Montjuic) hosted the Spanish GP and since 1991 the circuit of Barcelona is the home of the event. All the drivers know very well this track because often hosts pre-season winter testing. During these twenty years, the track has not changed a lot. Personally I don't like the chicane inserted between the last two curves Europcar and New Holland; however, the layout is still quite good. Montmelò is a technical circuit with some interesting corners and an important test for the aerodynamics of the cars. Tyre: hard compound(orange stripe) and medium compound(white stripe) a very conservative choice because tyre wear is high: also brake demand and downforce level are high.
Now we have spectacular races, but in the past the Formula One was completely different and better for me.
today is 8th May and lots of old memories came to my mind.
Exactly 31 years ago, it was on saturday and there was the final qualifying session of the Belgium GP at Zolder. That afternoon I was not at my home and I heard on the radio that Villeneuve was at Lovanio’s hospital after a terrible crash. Gilles died that same evening, but I would remember two extraordinary victories of Gilles: Jarama 81 and Monaco 81 and his exploits. At Canadian Grand Prix, Gilles had damaged the front wing obscuring the most of his view, nevertheless he drove his Ferrari for many laps in heavy rain condition.
But above all is in the legend of formula One what happened at Dijon(French Grand Prix 1979). Arnoux(Renault) vs Villenueve(Ferrari) in the last three laps, wheel to wheel, side by side, in a series of passes. Breathtaking. I watch Formula One racing since 40 years but do not remember a duel as much exciting.
and how once: Forza Gil.

gp spain podium 2012
1 18 Pastor Maldonado Williams-Renault 66 1:39:09.145
2 5 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 66 +3.1 secs
3 9 Kimi Räikkönen Lotus-Renault 66 +3.8 secs