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robert wrote:And no this could not be done as a night show.

Can you be more detailed, why not?

I have exactly the opposite opinion. These thematic shows are primary designed for the viewers, but how many viewers do you think have watched it as a premium show? I guess not many. I think I will be even not so wrong if I say there was not more than 10 of them. Is it the expected success?
It's nothing worse for a film directors, actors and all other people involved if they know that all the effort and energy used to create something interesting is useless, because nobody is watching. FTA television is the best and only place for these kind of shows how to make it popular.

Etv always mentions the legendary Bohemian Night Show. I wonder whether this show would be also so famous if it was presented as a premium show for just 5 to 10 spectators on the web.

robert wrote:This should really go in the Praise thread but the web stuff seems to be contained here.

Eyes of a Blue Dog was wonderful. Elly's imagination and staging prowess created a spectacle from a bare studio and a tiny budget that was witty, sexy and at times moving. The ideas were realised by Ava and Angelina with commitment, intensity and not a little skill. The amount of planning, scripting and rehearsal showed through from the first to the last minute. I loved it all but the flying sequence was exceptional.

And no this could not be done as a night show.

And no I wont be posting this to the ETV Wall.

What about changing your profile title: "Remote-Controlled"

This should really go in the Praise thread but the web stuff seems to be contained here.

Eyes of a Blue Dog was wonderful. Elly's imagination and staging prowess created a spectacle from a bare studio and a tiny budget that was witty, sexy and at times moving. The ideas were realised by Ava and Angelina with commitment, intensity and not a little skill. The amount of planning, scripting and rehearsal showed through from the first to the last minute. I loved it all but the flying sequence was exceptional.

And no this could not be done as a night show.

And no I wont be posting this to the ETV Wall.

rialpka wrote:[quote='WILSONSAND'

Well..I notice that you do not like Karry but nevertheless you are going to see her when she makes an ELS, and better still you accept to pay some credits when it becomes a Premium.:thumbup: Strange

There is not only the behavior of Karry which is difficult to understand, yours too.
Pay when we like not, it has a name I believe.:cool:

Rialpka, you suppose some things that are not right just because ignorance, the first of all i don´t like Karry, i can recognize when a girl has potential and Karry has it. I said it in the past and i say it again. She can be a very good performer, but unfortunately she speaks too much. Maybe i would pay for a hot show from Karry, yes, if she is in the right mood and far from the micro, she can be one of the best models. Of course i can see an ELS of Karry because i have an account and i payed for that account, and i see a lot of ELS, not always are my favs and unfortunately Karry behaviour in ELS is disappointing me, as customer, i have my opinion, you have yours. I respect yours, respect mine. My behaviour is well known for people who knows me...believe me.

I said you suppose some things that are not right just because ignorance, the second is you don´t know how i watched some minutes of that show and how i use my credits, but i don´t blame you, i know your Karry protective instinct is too strong and you can´t avoid it. Thankfully, i am in contact with a lot of people and i am not a "fan" of any ETV girl, and that´s very good to be well informed. Finally, if i pay for some premium show with Karry in the future and i want to complain or praise about it i will let you know, and if i want to complain or praise about it even if i didn´t spend a credit, i will let you know it too.. as customer, i have the right to ask ETV some honesty, in Karry shows or another model shows. By the way, her show last week was good, and many ELS from her too, the problem is when she has a micro near of her and she begin to speak, because too often she is unpleasant, arrogant, childish and indecently rude with customers. IT is my opinion.

I forgot it: stunning show from Karry last night for free.(, of course)

[quote='WILSONSAND'

Well..I notice that you do not like Karry but nevertheless you are going to see her when she makes an ELS, and better still you accept to pay some credits when it becomes a Premium. Strange

There is not only the behavior of Karry which is difficult to understand, yours too.
Pay when we like not, it has a name I believe.

And what is about the normal night shows where mybe millions of viewers don´t give a cent and watching for free?

Why they don´t started an encrypted Channel since years? No, they waste their money for two Satellites, Sky and maybe other crap.

And i think it is more frustrated if a girl in an nightshow in 4 hours only get 3 sms like Suzy or Eliza.

Where is really the waste of money ETV? The internet viewers give you min. 37 Euro to become a member. At every other site i can join for free and then i can decide if i want more for credits. But it seems this money what they paid is going with the wind.

And why softhows in ELS or Premiumshows? You wonder why nobody pay more credits? Because nobody wants to see handbra or Brashows. This is the reason why most of the viewer only watch and don´t waste their credits for unfilled wishes...

When i have Clover Sunny in the ELS i know they don´t get undress and 95 percent of the viewers wants them nude. This is the reason why a lots of people signed in because they thought the will see hardshows....

And man wanna see this, it is their Nature.

Have a nice night.

Ok, they created a new ELS at 1.00ce while night show is in the other studio. They insist in making plans that push the one day called "hot shows" in and endlessly falling down.. Night show is dead already, they killed it themself with bad castings, the regret of old-times models whose creativity and newest contributions are zero, with zero improvement capacity. Dead models for dead shows, and absolute desert
scene for the few good models that are not (still) totally migrated to the ELS and saving their best for the ELS. Some models obviously migrated: Karry, Gia, Amy, Scarlet, Ava... So, good models not doing
her best, and bad models everyday. The result is a show invaded for stupid and soft requests (the only possible under the censorship pressure) from fans in love and fetishists with very low demands and often bad taste, and unwatchable shows. It´s a suicidal strategy, bad shows expecting...what? money for boredom?

The first news was the premium shows within Late night ELS (Nancy). With the excuse of the lonely night for the model (who is payed for being there anyway, with 50 or 0 callings, just the same than after hour) they try to convince you for paying extra money as a reward to the poor model for being there so alone in the night for 4 hours. The first indecency is schedulling a show at 1.00ce pretending to get your money in the deepest hours of the night, the second indecency is torturing the model staying alone in front of a static cam for 4 hours without any help or support, and the final indecency: as ETV is not able to get the money they want because the customers are slept (people must wake up early in the morning to go to work), or they are slept for a poor show anyway they propose the new strategy of "all or nothing": as they have only a few customers willing to stay so late spending money, they must spend more money. It is not interesting to get more customers, or even taking care just the few they have, no, they ask them even more. More money. If 3 guys send one message ETV get 3 credits, but with only one guy in the premium show they get 5 credits. They prefer a lonely premium customer than "5 to 10 credits as total income". "At the end some models do a lot hard job for hours", "this led to frustration". They have admitted the failure of this shows, and i guess they are trying to sale this point because paying a a premium show the customers can send sms for free and this keeps the show "alive" and the model less bored. Here i wanted to arrive... the new premium shows are a happy hour: you spend 3 credits and you can send sms for free for a while, but it doesn´t mean a show, no, obviously, it means that they only want your money. So the model will receive more sms for free from less or a very little number of customers, and ETV receives more money because one two premium customers means more money than a normal late night ELS. This is very exclusive, right. But they would ask why so few customers are willing to spend their credits in that show. Becoming a "happy minutes -free sms for 3 credits" is a very desperate solution. They said that in the wall: "In this situation allowing the girls to do some Premium Shows within the exclusive show seems to be a good solution and we will encourage the models to create such short Premium performances. In this way the artistic performance will be financially encouraged and the interactivity will remain too. Even during the unplanned Nansi’s night Premium experiment we received encouraging texts from the viewers saying that the idea seams to be fair and will be a step ahead on improving the level of the shows."

It was not too long to check how big lie it was: we could check it in tuesday ELS with Karry. I will talk about it later.

I think one of their more serious mistake is confusing causes and consequences: "the show is boring because there are no messages enough" (could it be just upside down?), so...your money is useless. "If you want something more pay more", because maybe if they would be able to offer something different, they could get more sms and callings and maybe it wouldn´t be needed to propose a exclusive show within and exclusive service. So they are defining the money spent in sms and callings as "useless", so why spending in that shows if the good, watchable and hot show will come later in the premium show? why don´t make a premium show with less duration (1.5 hours, for example) what it would be better for all, model included, for a low number of credits (2,for example) trying to attract more customers with low prices and offering real good and hot shows? It´s necessary to attrack the customers, not excluding or moving away with such chaos and misinformation. What is what we will pay for? for how much time? what we can expect and what not? The show is so exclusive that if you don´t pay, it´s stupid wait for the end of the show, so they lead you to the bed, and they lose customers when the premium show is over and come back again to the normal ELS, because the no-premium customers will be sleeping.It´s crazy.

They talk about frustration, but they don´t invest a cent in proposing any new idea, any improvements, any creativity. O costs of resources and imagination. It is not frustrating for customers not find
anything different in late night than normal ELS? it is not frutrating to send a simple request and being absolutely ignored? is it not frustrating to see how your money is useless?or is it not frustrating
or irritant seing how a model disrespect the customers and their wishes very often (so, their money too) without any intervention, absolute passivity and permissiveness from ETV? The late night ELS have been worse than any other ELS in the day, with no intention of doing a different or better show, they had a bad stink of "give me money for nothing, nothing new, nothing prepared, nothing different and if i consider it is not enough money i will ask you more, but don´t expect nothing in return".

And the latest news. And Karry. As i said before, ETV justified the premium costs within an ELS saying this "seems to be a good solution and we will encourage the models to create such short Premium performances.In this way the artistic performance will be financially encouraged". Well, ETV introduced a premium show in ELS time with Karry on tuesday, it was 25 minutes, first Karry danced a little and after that, the show was interrupted by a speech from the boss, Karry said "i don´t gonna take off my clothes because it´s too less...it´s not expensive enough for me". So, the arrogant star refused to fulfilled the requests even in a premium show, and also she wanted to make fun about the credits that were spent for the customers...grotesque and stupid behaviour again from her... then the boss announced there will be more shows like that for 3 or 2 credits "not too expensive" and Karry added: "i think that for me should be ten or eleven, something like that".... but what the hell is this stupid behaviour? what she thinks she is?..after that Karry danced again for 5 minutes.. the boss said some stupid things more and while KArry was dressing they announced how good are this shows... BUT WHAT SHOW? there was no show!!!!! Karry dancing and a boss speech talking about the news he should communicate by other ways....he cant do it in the site? or in normal ELS time? they spent the 3 credits premium time talking and doing any show, and this is the marketing they do for future next premium shows...Absolute indecent, and Karry behaviour is a shame, she can be proud of being the first model who does nothing except you pay some extra money, but not any extra money: 3 credits it´s not enough to see anything watchable from her now, she put her low level of performing more expensive.Pay me a lot of credits, and maybe i will do anything. If she doesn´t want to perform even for money, how can we expect she will do for free at NS? of course not.

And ETV without any shame talking about financial "artistic performance" with that shameful premium show...

For all of that says "what did you expect" "the show is ok" and things like that, customers have the right to ask for a service in return of their money, ETV talks about performances, hot shows and there was nothing like that, stop trying to convince them all is ok and they are stupid for complaining, because all they want is better services and better shows, and they prove customers are able to pay for a good show, but they feel scammed when there is nothing in return.

Nothing more to say, ETV speaks about their misery for itself, don´t answering the customers except you pay for demanding an answer in its wall and disappointing them day after day, wasting their last trust and hopes for improvements charging their credits this way.

mic1205 wrote:I can't understand the ELS Premium viewer

when they read careful in this forum they never pay for this stupid bullshit

don't believe the fanlovers and liar on the ETV-WALL

Yeah...it's better to believe the people here which (as they say) never want to see a premium show (sorry...this "stupid bullshit"...) and obviously have never seen one. For sure they know exactly what they talk about.


I agree, ETV need (and want) constructive critic......but this hardcore complaining about everything here seems to become a kind of fetish.
This thread should be renamed in "..for people which hate ETV but are still watching, because they need a place to complain."
Sorry, this doesn't want in my head!

Bad-Boy wrote:Why complaining?
Everybody knows how the channel works.

Due to mental health I've never logged in.

I can't understand the ELS Premium viewer

when they read careful in this forum they never pay for this stupid bullshit

don't believe the fanlovers and liar on the ETV-WALL

Why complaining?
Everybody knows how the channel works.

Due to mental health I've never logged in.

kurty3 wrote:U Didn t loose anything . Only ava s tits and Ass. No naked action . A pity and not good. We pay for Hot show and these are not Hot like night show!!!!!! Imagine you!!! 8 credits for Nothing

Where's the news?

kurty3 wrote:U Didn t loose anything . Only ava s tits and Ass. No naked action . A pity and not good. We pay for Hot show and these are not Hot like night show!!!!!! Imagine you!!! 8 credits for Nothing

You're right. If i want to see a happening I watch Arte

8 credits !!!! ......ouch, no thanks.

U Didn t loose anything . Only ava s tits and Ass. No naked action . A pity and not good. We pay for Hot show and these are not Hot like night show!!!!!! Imagine you!!! 8 credits for Nothing

Damn.......I really wanted to watch the show with Angelina and Ava, but I missed the start.

Shit real life...