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jonas wrote:
After this disgusting struggling scene with Lauren I wrote a team message to ETV: "director in exclusive please stop torturing Lauren in that way!! You should write better: Lauren can voluntarily to torture! |
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Wilsonsand wrote:my god, who can enjoy with this: Lauren tied from feet to head, submitted by the torturer, even strangling.... After this disgusting struggling scene with Lauren I wrote a team message to ETV: "director in exclusive please stop torturing Lauren in that way!!!" |
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Dear friends liveshow-TV,
I have already expressed disappointment with the new night show of ETV. JohnGuitar and others are absolutely right, this is what they have always wanted some VIP wall ETV, change the structure of Eurotic-TV. How do you claim to be a friend of Lauren and make her certain requests? It 's time to say no to this show fetishists and have more respect for the models. Best regards. JohnBirracchio |
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A boycott of these shows is the best.
And all the girls should show solidarity and not make such shows. And do not come with the argument that ETV is forcing you to do these shows. The money is there and some arguably the joy of such shows.  See Lace. |
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Wilsonsand wrote:this morning i sent a message to the wall. My message was half published. They censored this part: I fully support you Wilsonsand for your concerned concept, I wrote a complaint letter other day to ETV-WALL but no respond so far. Dear ETV-WALL. We are a substantial number of friends and I'm writing this letter on their behalf after we make some discussions concerned about some of your shows featuring tortures to your models though against their will. The action of love gratification actualizes male identity, women are tortured, whipped, and chained; women are bound and gagged; and all of this to establish in the male a viable sense of his own worth. The sexual sickness of some viewers actually use girls bodies as their language. They are their speech and "Protecting what they request means Protecting what they do [u]to[/u] them", it means protecting their sadism on your models bodies, because that is how they write: not like as viewers at all but like a torturers.  These kind of behavior is the orchestrated destruction of women's bodies and souls; dehumanization, it is war on women, serial assaults on dignity, identity, and human worth. We find that some viewers are all perverted sinners, one way or another, and that their whole society is corrupted. Now, please we kindly request the Management of ETV and especially the responsible of various shows to refrain be trapped in their sadism action and decline similar repudiated behavior that is considered morally wrong and offensive. Thanks a lot for your understanding JohnGuitar |
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this morning i sent a message to the wall. My message was half published. They censored this part:
"I think there was too much (again) pantyhose, especially in the more disgusting show i´ve ever seen in ETV: Tia torturing a tied from feet to head, and all head inside a suffocating pantyhose Lauren for minutes. The climax of this distasteful show was Tia strangling Lauren for endless minutes to the final simulated death. Pain and torture. Absolutely distasteful and no erotic for me, but terrible and disgusting. Sorry" Read with jonas think about it: "Only this long part with ripped pantyhose (not my taste!) was very hard, I believe that the director asked too much from her, so she was down at the end of this part and needed a glass of water. " Maybe Lace shadow is too long (or too wide  ) and some (blonde) follower still there likes the torture, pain and humliation so much as she did.I respect if someone likes that, but my point of view is this: is terribly disgusting i don´t like this kind of show in ETV. Just it. By the way: pantyhoses is also something i don´t like and i am tired of because a very overuse of it, but ETV don´t think that way, they prefer to reduce other kind of shows less fetichist.finally, i notice some people agree with me about the excesive long time of the show for two models. Lauren was evindently making great efforts and she was undisguisedly tired and at the end of the show out of it. She looked like forced to be there, forced to do all the things..is too much. All my support and respect for their work. |
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Most mainstream tv channels show murder films- war films- zombie films- cowboy films or horror films where the act of murder or assault is the main theme of the film or show. It's never gonna go away. Saving Private Ryan had an opening scene of soldiers being shot and blown to bits which ran for around the first 20 minutes. That film gained many awards and acolades. Ok I wouldn't want to see Eurotic have a weekly murder show butwe have to accept its been used in films,tv and media since movies began. If somebody doesn't want to watch these types of films or tv shows then switch channels. Fantasy and reality are two different things- we all must be able to separate them. By the way- I'm watching a good old fashioned western movie just now where lots of bad Indians are being shot at----I will still be the same guy when it ends ha ha
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glassy wrote:It's a crazy old world out there and a lot of people use deprivation of oxygen till nearly passing out as a sexual stimulate. It has all gone wrong many times over the years. I have never tried it and never will. I was just making fun of a subject which has divided opinion on whether it should be shown or not. But the good news is the return of the shower show- I hope there is nobody behind the shower curtain with a knife ha ha -- it' s fantasy that's all- relax yes please rape and gore on etv they just have to use strawberry jam. I wonder how many people would realize the hypocrisy of ETV when they will see this. Usually porn sites ban gore and murder but ETV is more concerned about their Oil usage
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Glassy wrote:
But the good news is the return of the shower show- I hope there is nobody behind the shower curtain with a knife ha ha -- it' s fantasy that's all- relax Especially when some girl in the lingerie shower. 
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It's a crazy old world out there and a lot of people use deprivation of oxygen till nearly passing out as a sexual stimulate. It has all gone wrong many times over the years. I have never tried it and never will. I was just making fun of a subject which has divided opinion on whether it should be shown or not. But the good news is the return of the shower show- I hope there is nobody behind the shower curtain with a knife ha ha -- it' s fantasy that's all- relax
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glassy wrote:C'mon guys- don't tell me you've never run around with a pair of tights over your head ha ha. Look at the fun you can have robbing banks while wearing them ha ha. Don't get the really thick ones though- you run into lamp posts making your escape Maybe it´s fun if you are talking about child cop & robbers games   but we are talking about a erotic show, which it should be exciting, sexy, erotic and entertaining, and honestly, pain and suffering till simulation of death it is to me too much disgusting and nothing of the things i´ve said before.. |
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C'mon guys- don't tell me you've never run around with a pair of tights over your head ha ha. Look at the fun you can have robbing banks while wearing them ha ha. Don't get the really thick ones though- you run into lamp posts making your escape
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Wilsonsand wrote:my god, who can enjoy with this: Lauren tied from feet to head, submitted by the torturer, even strangling.... Wilsonsand you are right Wiseman,deriving pleasure from inflicting pain, suffering, or humiliation on these gracious girls is inaudible perversion. I cannot be with someone who takes pleasure in inflicting pain on someone who can’t protect from harm. The healthy man does not torture others - generally it is the sick person exhibiting wildly who turn into torturer. JohnGuitar |
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Wilsonsand wrote:in my opinion the exclusive show with Tia and Lauren has been bad, for sure the worse they have ever done together. All the time in the highest and distant part of the studio, in a very small space, there was too few interacion, the horrible and disgusting pantyhose torture till simulated death, more pantyhose and one hour to the end of the show, Lauren was injured doing in a strange (yes, again) convulsive movements pantyhose show. 45 minutes to improve this. yes, right! now i am sure that Ely is directing this. This is the only posible reason to explain a dramatic scene breaking the best scene of the night, appearing Kristina to cry (yes, guys, really crying) before joining the girls action. This is no place for spontaneity, (Tia lied when she says all would be improvised), of course all is directed, even that disgusting show. edited: after the third hour the show improved. The first 3 hours are completely dispensables, the last 2 are better. 5 hours is too long, first for the models, they look very tired, especially Lauren, who was also injured at her back. Show absolutely recommended for pantyhoses fans and fetichists.
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Wilsonsand wrote:in my opinion the exclusive show with Tia and Lauren has been bad, for sure the worse they have ever done together. All the time in the highest and distant part of the studio, in a very small space, there was too few interacion, the horrible and disgusting pantyhose torture till simulated death, more pantyhose and one hour to the end of the show, Lauren was injured doing in a strange (yes, again) convulsive movements pantyhose show. 45 minutes to improve this. And now 10 minutes after you post this comment there is a really good scene. Seems like they hold off the best performances until late at night.p.s I didn't watch the first hour so thanks for informing me that i didn't miss anything worthwhile |
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